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    3. This does show that "Mistris Anna Macky," sister to Lord Reay, was married to Rev. Hugh Munro of Durness by 1686, having had a former husband, Alexander Mcdonal or Mconnal, by whom she had at least one child. On Sunday, May 22, 2016 at 5:05:24 PM UTC-4, D. Spencer Hines wrote: > There is this: > ------------------------------- > > About Rev. Hugh Munro, minister of Durness > > Copy of Deed from the Macdonald Charter Chest referred to by Mr G. M. > Fraser, Portree. > > I Captain Hugh Mconal Lawfull son to umq Alexr Mcdonal of pabellseary binds > and oblidges me and my heirs to procure from Mistris Anna Macky my mother > and from Mr Hugh Munro minister of Durness her husband a full and ample > disposition and discharge to Sir Donal Mconal of Slait or his heirs of all > they can ask or crave of him after the term of Whitsunday next to come > eightie six years either upon the account of the sd mistris Anna Mckys > matrimoniall contract or any other transaction or agreement made betwixt the > Late Lord Reay her brother (with her consent) and Sir James Mackdonald of > Slait, but still w'out prejudice of qt is due to her be the sd Sir Donal > preceeding the forsd term. And in case I the sd Captain Hugh fail in > procuring the forsd disposition & discharge betwixt the dait hierof and the > term of Mertimess next to come eightie six years. Then and in yt case I bind > and oblidge me and my heirs not only to give up to the sd Sr Donal or his > heirs an contract of Wodsett granted be him to me of the Lands of Dustill > more, but Likewayes to renounce the sds Lands in favours of the sd Sr Donal > or his forsds, and also to be bound to pay to the sd Sir Donal or his forsds > the usuall rent of the sds Lands at the term of mertimess abovmention'd, and > ilk year thereafter during my stay there, and yt allenerly in case of > failing in the fullfilling of the premises. And the sd Capt Hugh binds and > oblidges me and my forsds to give up to the sd Sir Donal or his heirs an > bond of five thousand merks granted be him to me at Edr the day of years. > And farder I bind & oblidge me & my forsds to renew this my obligation to > the sd Sir Donal or his heirs ay and while they find themselves sufficiently > secured in witness qrof I have subscribed thir prit at Armidell the > thirtieth day of March on thusand six hundred & eightie six years, before > these wittnesses Donald Mconal off Castletown and Mr Martin Martin governour > to the Laird of Mcdonal younger H. Mconal > > Donald Mcdonald Witness > > https://www.geni.com/people/Rev-Hugh-Munro-minister-of-Durness/6000000020842152751 > > DSH > -------------------------------------------- > > -----Original Message----- > > From: D. Spencer Hines > Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 2:55 PM > Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval > > Subject: Re: Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump > > I agree. I really don't think it passes the smell test and until I see > further precise details and evidence I'm not accepting it. I have however > been trying to trace both lines and the Rodham line is particularly > questionable. Trump is not even Donald's "Real Name" of course. DSH Lux et > Veritas et Libertas > > "It may be said that, thanks to the 'clercs', humanity did evil for two > thousand years, but honoured good. This contradiction was an honour to the > human species, and formed the rift whereby civilisation slipped into the > world." "La Trahison des clercs" [The Treason of the Intellectuals](1927) > Julien Benda (1867-1956) > > "Leo van de Pas via" wrote in message > news:mailman.11.1440624817.20542.gen-medieval@rootsweb.com... > Olivier Guionneau sent the following: > > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3210778/Donald-Trump-Hillary-Clinton-revealed-distant-cousins-family-trees-share-set-royal-ancestors.html > > True or False? > > I started checking from the top, from familiar information towards the new > details. With the Hillary Clinton line I got as far as Dorothy Ogle, Lady > Grey, mother of Isabel Grey. This Isabel was married to Sir Ralph Grey of > Chillingham.Sir Ralph and Isabel are ancestors of Prince Charles, according > to Gerald Paget they are N12475 and N12476. I have not seen a list of all > their children but so far I found five sons and two daughters : Isabel > married to Sir Francis Radcliffe and Dorothy married to Sir Robert Delaval. > I prefer not to jump in and say, isn't this great. > > I can't find a daughter Margaret married to a Rodham, mother of a Roddam, > father of a Rodham. And here is where my acceptance of this line stops. I > hope I am too cautious. Now Donald Trump's line. I went as far as Alexander > Gordon, 12th Earl of Sutherland, and his daughter Lady Jane mother of Donald > Mackay. This Donald, 1st Lord Reay, married a few times and is father of an > Ann Mackay who married Alexander Macdonald (see BP 1999 page 2376) no > legitimate daughter Anna married to a Munro. But BP maintains this Donald > had illegitimate children and then only mentions a son Donald, which leaves > it open that there is an illegitimate daughter Anna. Again as the > information seems insecure to me, I won't be adding this lineage, not until > more secure information emerges. What do others think? Leo van de Pas > Canberra, Australia. > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > Fortem Posce Animum Mortis Terrore Carentem > > Decimus Junius Juvenalis [Juvenal] (ca. 60 A.D. Aquino, Italy - ca. 127 > A.D.] Satire X

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