It seems possible there is a royal descent for Sir Rupert Murdoch, the billionaire businessman. I have used Reitwiesner and Wood's tracing of his ancestry back to ancestor #116, Robert Sherson, "b. 1736/7, buried 13 Jan 1821 at Fetcham, Surrey aged 84, apothecary, doctor of medicine and botanist. Will dated 2 Feb 1819, proved with 3 codicils at London 22 Mar 1821." The next entry is for his wife, Mary ___, and mentions the location of "Bridge House, Fetcham, Surrey." http://www.wargs.com/other/murdoch.html These details given for Robert Sherson and his wife Mary tie in nicely to a big pedigree chart in Whitaker's _An History of the Original Parish of Whalley_, where a footnote to the chart shows Alexander Sherson, husband of Bridget Nowell, serving as "Town Clerk of Lancaster, died Nov. 21, 1737, leaving a numerous issue. His son Robert Sherson, M.D., late of Great Ormond Street, now (1809) of Bridge House, Surrey, has also a numerous progeny." As this statement was made in the lifetime of Robert Sherson (d. 1821) of Bridge House, Fetcham, Surrey, doctor of medicine, I see no real reason to doubt its accuracy (though please inform me if this connection is wrong). https://books.google.com/books?id=EO1EAQAAMAAJ&pg=RA1-PA264&dq=%22son+robert+sherson%22&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi0m7Cr-8_MAhUE2SYKHZHsD1gQ6AEIHTAA#v=onepage&q=%22son%20robert%20sherson%22&f=false Bridget Nowell, shown by Whitaker to be mother of Robert Sherson, M.D., was a daughter of Roger Nowell, Esq., of Whalley, by his wife, Rebecca, relict of Cuthbert Wade (possibly born Rebecca Heber, first cousin to her own 2nd husband). This seems to lead to at least one royal descent from King Edward III, and probably more (the Heber lines should be checked in particular). 1. Edward III, King of England = Philippa of Hainault 2. John of Gaunt, Duke of Lancaster = (3) with legitimated issue, Katherine (Roet) Swynford 3. Joan Beaufort = Ralph Neville, 1st Earl of Westmoreland 4. Richard Neville, 1st Earl of Salisbury = Alice Montagu 5. Eleanor Neville = Thomas Stanley, 1st Earl of Derby 6. Edward Stanley, Lord Monteagle = Elizabeth Harington & Anne Vaughan 7. (? possibly illegitimate) Elizabeth Stanley = Sir Thomas Langton 8. Joan Langton = John Fleetwood 9. Elizabeth Fleetwood = Roger Nowell 10. Roger Nowell = Dorothy Holt 11. Alexander Nowell = Eleanor Heber 12. Roger Nowell = Rebecca (? Heber), widow of Cuthbert Wade 13. Bridget Nowell = Alexander Sherson 14. Robert Sherson = Mary____ 15. Robert Sherson = Catherine Taylor 16. Caroline Jemima Sherson = Frederick Henry Alexander Forth 17. Robert de Lancey Forth = Anne Thomson Ware 18. Marie Grace de Lancey Forth = Rupert Greene 19. Elisabeth Joy Greene = Sir Keith Arthur Murdoch 20. Sir (Keith) Rupert Murdoch The H.O.P. biography of Sir Thomas Langton of Newton confirms his marriage to a daughter, perhaps illegit., of Edward, Lord Monteagle. http://www.historyofparliamentonline.org/volume/1509-1558/member/langton-sir-thomas-149697-1569 Sir Thomas Langton had another wife who should be ruled out as the mother of Joan Langton, who married John Fleetwood. The _Visitation of Cumberland_ shows the marriage of Joan, daughter of Sir Thomas and Elizabeth (Stanley) Langton, to John Fleetwood. https://books.google.com/books?id=4nO5MJva0IYC&pg=PA32&dq=%22thomas+langton%22+newton&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi_q5mqkc7MAhUFxSYKHZSKB_wQ6AEIHTAA#v=onepage&q=%22thomas%20langton%22%20newton&f=false _Documents Relating to the Priory of Penwortham_ deals with the Fleetwood and Nowell connections in detail, though again we should rule out John Fleetwood's other wife, Catherine Christmas, as ancestral. https://books.google.com/books?id=MmJVAAAAcAAJ&pg=PR56&dq=%22married+roger+nowell+of+read%22&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiunvC4_c_MAhUB3yYKHWsCBHAQ6AEIMzAE#v=onepage&q=%22married%20roger%20nowell%20of%20read%22&f=false I imagine there are in fact several royal descents, as the wife of generation 15, Robert Sherson, Jr., appears to have been a granddaughter of Thomas Forbes, who was the son of Arthur Forbes Maitland of Pitrichie. https://books.google.com/books?id=uZlNAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA454&dq=sherson+nowell+fetcham&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiw6cmC-s_MAhUK7yYKHRDTDn0Q6AEIHTAA#v=onepage&q=sherson%20nowell%20fetcham&f=false
On Tuesday, May 10, 2016 at 1:08:05 PM UTC-4, ravinma...@yahoo.com wrote: > It seems possible there is a royal descent for Sir Rupert Murdoch, the billionaire businessman. > > I have used Reitwiesner and Wood's tracing of his ancestry back to ancestor #116, Robert Sherson, "b. 1736/7, buried 13 Jan 1821 at Fetcham, Surrey aged 84, apothecary, doctor of medicine and botanist. Will dated 2 Feb 1819, proved with 3 codicils at London 22 Mar 1821." The next entry is for his wife, Mary ___, and mentions the location of "Bridge House, Fetcham, Surrey." > > http://www.wargs.com/other/murdoch.html > > These details given for Robert Sherson and his wife Mary tie in nicely to a big pedigree chart in Whitaker's _An History of the Original Parish of Whalley_, where a footnote to the chart shows Alexander Sherson, husband of Bridget Nowell, serving as "Town Clerk of Lancaster, died Nov. 21, 1737, leaving a numerous issue. His son Robert Sherson, M.D., late of Great Ormond Street, now (1809) of Bridge House, Surrey, has also a numerous progeny." As this statement was made in the lifetime of Robert Sherson (d. 1821) of Bridge House, Fetcham, Surrey, doctor of medicine, I see no real reason to doubt its accuracy (though please inform me if this connection is wrong). > > https://books.google.com/books?id=EO1EAQAAMAAJ&pg=RA1-PA264&dq=%22son+robert+sherson%22&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi0m7Cr-8_MAhUE2SYKHZHsD1gQ6AEIHTAA#v=onepage&q=%22son%20robert%20sherson%22&f=false > > Bridget Nowell, shown by Whitaker to be mother of Robert Sherson, M.D., was a daughter of Roger Nowell, Esq., of Whalley, by his wife, Rebecca, relict of Cuthbert Wade (possibly born Rebecca Heber, first cousin to her own 2nd husband). This seems to lead to at least one royal descent from King Edward III, and probably more (the Heber lines should be checked in particular). > > 1. Edward III, King of England = Philippa of Hainault > > 2. John of Gaunt, Duke of Lancaster = (3) with legitimated issue, Katherine (Roet) Swynford > > 3. Joan Beaufort = Ralph Neville, 1st Earl of Westmoreland > > 4. Richard Neville, 1st Earl of Salisbury = Alice Montagu > > 5. Eleanor Neville = Thomas Stanley, 1st Earl of Derby > > 6. Edward Stanley, Lord Monteagle = Elizabeth Harington & Anne Vaughan > > 7. (? possibly illegitimate) Elizabeth Stanley = Sir Thomas Langton > > 8. Joan Langton = John Fleetwood > > 9. Elizabeth Fleetwood = Roger Nowell > > 10. Roger Nowell = Dorothy Holt > > 11. Alexander Nowell = Eleanor Heber > > 12. Roger Nowell = Rebecca (? Heber), widow of Cuthbert Wade > > 13. Bridget Nowell = Alexander Sherson > > 14. Robert Sherson = Mary____ > > 15. Robert Sherson = Catherine Taylor > > 16. Caroline Jemima Sherson = Frederick Henry Alexander Forth > > 17. Robert de Lancey Forth = Anne Thomson Ware > > 18. Marie Grace de Lancey Forth = Rupert Greene > > 19. Elisabeth Joy Greene = Sir Keith Arthur Murdoch > > 20. Sir (Keith) Rupert Murdoch > > > The H.O.P. biography of Sir Thomas Langton of Newton confirms his marriage to a daughter, perhaps illegit., of Edward, Lord Monteagle. > > http://www.historyofparliamentonline.org/volume/1509-1558/member/langton-sir-thomas-149697-1569 > > Sir Thomas Langton had another wife who should be ruled out as the mother of Joan Langton, who married John Fleetwood. > > The _Visitation of Cumberland_ shows the marriage of Joan, daughter of Sir Thomas and Elizabeth (Stanley) Langton, to John Fleetwood. > > https://books.google.com/books?id=4nO5MJva0IYC&pg=PA32&dq=%22thomas+langton%22+newton&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi_q5mqkc7MAhUFxSYKHZSKB_wQ6AEIHTAA#v=onepage&q=%22thomas%20langton%22%20newton&f=false > > _Documents Relating to the Priory of Penwortham_ deals with the Fleetwood and Nowell connections in detail, though again we should rule out John Fleetwood's other wife, Catherine Christmas, as ancestral. > > https://books.google.com/books?id=MmJVAAAAcAAJ&pg=PR56&dq=%22married+roger+nowell+of+read%22&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiunvC4_c_MAhUB3yYKHWsCBHAQ6AEIMzAE#v=onepage&q=%22married%20roger%20nowell%20of%20read%22&f=false > > I imagine there are in fact several royal descents, as the wife of generation 15, Robert Sherson, Jr., appears to have been a granddaughter of Thomas Forbes, who was the son of Arthur Forbes Maitland of Pitrichie. > > https://books.google.com/books?id=uZlNAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA454&dq=sherson+nowell+fetcham&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiw6cmC-s_MAhUK7yYKHRDTDn0Q6AEIHTAA#v=onepage&q=sherson%20nowell%20fetcham&f=false Genealogics provides a wealth of information on the ancestries of Sir Charles Maitland, of Pitrichie, 3rd Baronet and Jane/Jean Forbes: http://www.genealogics.org/pedigree.php?personID=I00235157&tree=LEO There is, at least, a James IV descent here: James IV = Margaret Drummond Margaret Stewart = John Gordon George Gordon = Elizabeth Keith (1 James I descent) Elizabeth Gordon = John Stewart (1 Edward III descent) Elizabeth Stewart = Hugh Fraser Simon Fraser = Jean Stewart (1 Edward III descent) Margaret Fraser = Sir Robert Arbuthnott (1 Edward III & 1 James I descent) Robert Arbuthnott = Marjorie Carnegie Margaret Arbuthnott = Sir John Forbes (1 Edward III descent) Jane/Jean Forbes = Sir Charles Maitland (1 Edward III descent)
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