On 16/05/2016 6:02 AM, Richard Smith via wrote: > The will was written in September 1401 and refers to Joan as Lady Bryan, > implying she had not remarried, yet we know from the letters patent that > in February 1401 Sir William Echyngham was married to a Joan. Put > together this suggests that Sir Thomas Echyngham's mother was not the > daughter of John, Baron Arundel. These dates are not necessarily in conflict if February 1401 is Annunciation style, that is February 1402 new style, and Joan was still the widowed Lady Bryan in the September before. Peter Stewart