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    1. Re: Gisela de Béarn
    2. taf via
    3. On Thursday, May 5, 2016 at 4:59:45 PM UTC-7, Peter Stewart via wrote: > Looking at the full list of individuals and families for whom the same > work is cited by this compiler > (http://www.ourfamilyhistories.org/showsource.php?sourceID=S88&tree=00&ioffset=&foffset=50) > suggests sloppy second-hand citation at best - I doubt very much that > Las Cases wasted space on this lot in his atlas (which the compiler, > apparently copy-pasting from Google Books, weirdly describes as "2 p., > 38 leaves of plates : geneal. tables, col. maps"). Good catch. Probably just took a tree that listed Las Cases as a source and applied it to all the details taken from that tree (or worse). taf

    05/05/2016 11:06:46
    1. Re: Gisela de Béarn
    2. Peter Stewart via
    3. On 6/05/2016 10:06 AM, taf via wrote: > On Thursday, May 5, 2016 at 4:59:45 PM UTC-7, Peter Stewart via wrote: > >> Looking at the full list of individuals and families for whom the same >> work is cited by this compiler >> (http://www.ourfamilyhistories.org/showsource.php?sourceID=S88&tree=00&ioffset=&foffset=50) >> suggests sloppy second-hand citation at best - I doubt very much that >> Las Cases wasted space on this lot in his atlas (which the compiler, >> apparently copy-pasting from Google Books, weirdly describes as "2 p., >> 38 leaves of plates : geneal. tables, col. maps"). > Good catch. Probably just took a tree that listed Las Cases as a source and applied it to all the details taken from that tree (or worse). > > After looking at plate images from the atlas on AbeBooks, it seems impossible that such unimportant individuals as "Mrs Leo von der Aa" could be included, much less these jokers in the pack http://www.ourfamilyhistories.org/familygroup.php?familyID=F54470&tree=00. I wonder if Las Cases was not used inaccurately only for geography - resulting in such rubbish as identifying Sternberg with the place of the same name in Prussia rather than correctly in Moravia. Peter Stewart

    05/06/2016 04:17:38
    1. Re: Gisela de Béarn
    2. Peter Stewart via
    3. On 6/05/2016 10:17 AM, Peter Stewart via wrote: > > On 6/05/2016 10:06 AM, taf via wrote: >> On Thursday, May 5, 2016 at 4:59:45 PM UTC-7, Peter Stewart via wrote: >> >>> Looking at the full list of individuals and families for whom the same >>> work is cited by this compiler >>> (http://www.ourfamilyhistories.org/showsource.php?sourceID=S88&tree=00&ioffset=&foffset=50) >>> suggests sloppy second-hand citation at best - I doubt very much that >>> Las Cases wasted space on this lot in his atlas (which the compiler, >>> apparently copy-pasting from Google Books, weirdly describes as "2 p., >>> 38 leaves of plates : geneal. tables, col. maps"). >> Good catch. Probably just took a tree that listed Las Cases as a source and applied it to all the details taken from that tree (or worse). >> >> > After looking at plate images from the atlas on AbeBooks, it seems > impossible that such unimportant individuals as "Mrs Leo von der Aa" > could be included, much less these jokers in the pack > http://www.ourfamilyhistories.org/familygroup.php?familyID=F54470&tree=00. > > Of these I especially enjoyed "Baron Theoderich von Bosenhagen", http://www.ourfamilyhistories.org/getperson.php?personID=I139248&tree=00, who was allegedly born in 1103 and died "Yes, date unknown". Surely Las Cases can't be responsible for that supposition, when for all he could have known Baron Theoderich might have been sleeping in a cave somewhere in "Bosenhagen, Hessen-Nassau, Preussen" waiting for his moment to reappear. Peter Stewart

    05/06/2016 04:23:38