On Tuesday, 11 December 2012 04:45:35 UTC, pd...@peterdale.com wrote: > Greetings, > > I have recently commenced researching the Hemenhale family of Norfolk > and Suffolk. My connection to them is that an Elizabeth Hemenhale > married my ancestor Sir William Jermy (d. 1385). Sir William's son > Sir John Jermy and his son John Jermy, Esq. are referenced in the IPM > below. > > The book, 'Calendar of Inquisitions Post Mortem and Other Analogous > Documents Preserved in the Public Record Office', (1898), Henry VII., > vol. I., published by Eyre and Spottiswoode, London, p. 140, sets > forth the Inquest Post Mortem of John Jermyn dated November 4, 1487. > This IPM references a "Ralph Hempnale", among others, as a feofee of > Sir John Jermy. Sir John Jermy's parents are, according to numerous > unsourced pedigrees, said to be Sir William Jermy and his wife > Elizabeth Hemenhale/Hemenhall or Hunhall who was the daughter of John > de Hemenhale, Esquire (or, occasionally Thomas). One reference (again > unsourced) states that her family came from Rishangles, Suffolk but > originated in Burnham, Norfolk. > > I found the following entry in the Feet of Fines and also the will of > Sir William Jermy. Please see below: > > The book, 'A Calendar of the Feet of Fines for Suffolk', (1900), by > Walter Rye, printed by W. E. Harrison for the Suffolk Institute of > Archaeology and Natural History, p. 283, states the following with > respect to the Mounteney and Jermy families: > > "1 Henry V. [1413-1414] ... 2 John Lancastre, William Mounteneye, > Ralph Hemnale, and John Sprot v. John Germyn of Metefold and Margaret > his wife of the manor of Gosbak called Germynes manor" (source: > http://www.archive.org/stream/cu31924029784992/cu31924029784992_djvu.txt) > > (Latin translation): Will of William Germy Knight [NCC 46 Harsyk - > this will found to be incorrectly indexed as William Berny Kt - NROCAT > and printed NCC indexes now corrected] > > [heading] The testament of Sir William Germy Knight deceased > > In the name of God Amen I William Germy, being of sound mine & good > memory make this my testament in this wise: > Firstly, I commend my soul to Almighty God, the blessed Mary & all the > saints, and my body to be buried in the church of St John, Medefeld in > the county of Suffolk. > Item I bequeath to Elizabeth my wife, half my chattels, [tam viva quam > mortua - in life so in death?]. > Item I bequeath for the making of a bell-tower at Medefeld 100 silver > shillings. > Item I bequeath for the repair of the church of Gosebak 20 s. > Item I bequeath for repair of the church of Mendham 20 s. > Item to the Anchoress of Framelyngham 6s 8d. > Item I bequeath to Margar' de Hemenhal 20s. > Item I bequeath to brother Henry, Prior of Filchestowe 2 silver marks. > Item I bequeath to John Derby 20s. > Item I bequeath to Thomas Draper 6s 8d. > Item I bequeath to Robert de Rysyngges 13s 4d. > Item I bequeath to each serving boy remaining with me in the hospital/ > hospice 3s 4d. > Item I bequeath to William Barbour 3s 4d. > The residue of all my goods not bequeathed, wheresoever they be, I > bequeath to my executors, to be disposed of, taken & paid for my soul > & the souls of my ancestors and friends, as seems most pleasing to be > done. > I ordain, make & appoint as my executors of this testament Elizabeth > my wife, John Breuse knight, Katherine Hemenhal, John Bercelot clerk & > Roger Breuse. > In witness whereof to this present testament I have placed my seal. > Given at Walton in the county of Suffolk on Saturday next after the > feast of the Beheading of St John the Baptist AD 1385. > > This testament was proved at Norwich before the official of the Bishop > of Norwich on the 7th day of September in the year AD above written. > Administration of goods granted to John Bercelot clerk one of the > executors named, with power reserved to the co-executors, when they > should come &c > > I have tried to further corroborate the relationship between Sir > William and Sir John Jermy and have come across the following > references to each of them, respectively, in IPMs: > > The book, 'Calendar of the Inquisitions Post Mortem, and other > Analogous Documents preserved in the Public Record Office', (1970), > Vol. 15, 1-7 Richard II (1377-84), HMSO, London, p. 249, states the > following with respect to William Germyn, knight: > > "William de Ufford, earl of Suffolk > ... > > 619. Suffolk. Inq. taken at Framelyngham, 12 March, 5 Richard II. > [1382] The earl held the under-mentioned knights' fees and advowsons > for life by the courtesy of England etc., as above (Hertford > inquisition). ... > > Gosbek and Eston. 2 knights' fees, held by William Germyn, knight." > > The book, 'Calendar of the Inquisitions Post Mortem, and other > Analogous Documents preserved in the Public Record Office', Vol. 23, > 11-15 Henry VI (1432-37), Academic Director and General Editor - > Christine Carpenter, p. 92, states the following with respect to the > wife of John Germyn: > > "John, Duke of Norfolk > ... > > 115. Writ [not extant]. 9 November 1432. > Addressed to the escheator of Norfolk and Suffolk [CFR 1430-37, p. > 103]. > Suffolk. Inquisition. Beccles. 16 January 1433. [Roys]. ... > > The following knights' fee, parts of fees and advowsons are part of > the castle and manor, each whole fee worth 100s. when it falls and > annual values of the advowsons as shown. ... > > Gosbeck and Easton, 2 fees which Richard de Gosbek formerly held and > now Margaret who was the wife of John Germyn holds." > > I have seen the following references to a Katherine de Hemenhale and > Margaret Hemenhale (as per Sir William Jermy's will above) but have no > idea if they are the same individuals. There is a lot of repetition > of "Ralph", "Margaret", etc. in this family. > > (Dame) Katherine de Hemenhale - > http://books.google.ca/books?id=GgYVAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA32&dq=%22catherine+de+hemenhale%22&hl=en&sa=X&ei=5aDGUOL9BsmD2gXBtoCYBA&ved=0CDQQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=%22catherine%20de%20hemenhale%22&f=false > > http://books.google.ca/books?id=efsUAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA74&dq=%22catherine+de+hemenhale%22&hl=en&sa=X&ei=5aDGUOL9BsmD2gXBtoCYBA&ved=0CDoQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=%22catherine%20de%20hemenhale%22&f=false > > http://archive.org/stream/cu31924092579576#page/n193/mode/2up > > Margaret Hemenhale - http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=37889#n26 > > I would appreciate any assistance in establishing the parentage and > ancestry of Elizabeth (de Hemenhale) wife of Sir William Jermy and > proposed mother of Sir John Jermy. Many thanks! > > Cheers, > > Pete Dear Pete and Matt, My interest is a little more general than yours, but you might like to know about my new biography, The Wife of Cobham, whose subject, Joan Lady Cobham (c. 1370-1434) was married to Sir Robert Hemenhale (d. 1391). It's published next month, and of course includes quite a lot about the Hemenhale family. More info is available on www.lassepress.com, or you can contact me direct on curranpub@gmail.com All best, Susan Curran