On Tue, 21 Jun 2016 09:49:27 +0200, Andrew Lancaster via <gen-medieval@rootsweb.com> wrote in soc.genealogy.medieval: >Denis Beauregard wrote: > > >Asking money to support wikis? They are made of stealing material, so >why would someone who accept to use stolen material accepts to pay for it ? > >No one is asking for money for wikis. A wiki can be set-up for free and It is common that wikipedia asks for money. When a site has a huge number of visitors, it will need money to survive. wikitree will do the same thing later. >have whatever policies or editors it wants. Also, I have no idea what >you mean by "stealing", but I can not think of anything being discussed >which amounts to stealing. > >If citation of other sources is "stealing" then all researchers are >"stealing". If what you are talking about is the need for proper >citations of sources, then this seems to me to come under the general >category of quality control, which also has other aspects to it. (For >what it is worth, many well-known wikis have policies that all material >should be properly cited. Policies do not always equate to reality of >course.) I have seen cloning of pages on my site on wikitree and other similar sites. http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Coutu-22 http://www.wikitree.com/g2g/10499/is-there-any-evidence-for-this-person etc. In many pages, they copied my list of sources. No one there has ever tried to check anything from sources. They copy and copy and copy. For example, in the Longueval medieval line, no one in wikitree is quoting the original research !!! In the few pages I checked to write my answer, I saw almost no reference to an original source (there are plenty images of records for free on familysearch). It is almost always a mess to understand what is the source for what. This is stealing, not researching. No one is even trying to link data to records when available. Denis -- Denis Beauregard - généalogiste émérite (FQSG) Les Français d'Amérique du Nord - www.francogene.com/genealogie--quebec/ French in North America before 1722 - www.francogene.com/quebec--genealogy/ Sur cédérom à 1785 - On CD-ROM to 1785