On Sunday, June 5, 2016 at 1:09:55 PM UTC-7, Hovite wrote: > Eoppa is not a real name, but a hypocoristic form of Eorpwine, just as Nunna is short for Nothhelm, Offa for Osfrith, and Eaba for Eadbeald, Eadberth, or even female Eadburh. Eorpwine as a father of Eormenric would fit the Kentish system of alliteration. Let's be clear here. There is no evidence that Eoppa isn't just a made up string of letters put into a pedigree. It is unclear to me why Eoppa must represent Eorpwine vs Eorp(anything else). As to Offa being short for Osfrith, I am not buying that at all. Offa was continental legendary figure and there is no reason whatsoever he should have a typical Anglo-Saxon name - certainly other continental figures, such as Finn of Frisa, or is he just another disguised Englishman. I am not looking for reasons why Eoppa (or more appropriately Eppa) would be an appropriate father for Eormenric, given that every other account of the pedigree that we have give Eormenric of Kent an entirely distinct father - Octa or Oisc (the names are swapped in order in different versions), and the one pedigree naming the father of an Eormenric as Eppa doesn't even intend this to be the Kentish king - the author just needed some names so he stole and modified Bede's Kent pedigree to create ancient 'Kings of Bernicia'. taf