Thank you, Doug. The document you cite concerning Sussex is the reason I am pursuing this line. Certainly, Osbert had a brother,Adam and a son, Adam. If Osbert married Emma Tattershale , he was much older, yet he is found responsible of property that would have come from the Albinis. Would this have been if either his brother or son had married Emma? > On Jun 14, 2016, at 1:02 PM, alden via <gen-medieval@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Couple docs: > > > FILE-[no title] - ref.BCM/A/3/7/1 - date:[27 April 1309] > > Adam de Cailly, knight, and John de Cailly his brother. Sun. after St. Mark, 2 Edw. II > Adam informs John that, whereas he granted to John a messuage and 2 carucates of land in Glos. called la Walles within the manor of Giffardesstoke for life, he has now enfeoffed Lady Margaret, widow of Sir John Giffard of Brymesfeld, and John Giffard, Sir John's son and heir, and John de Cailly must now do them fealty. > At: 'Grauntebrugg'. > On 28th of April 1309, just one day later, Sir Adam de Cailly died and the property was owned by John de Cailly > > > and > > Norfolk Archaelogy: Miscellaneous Tracts Relating to the Antiquities of the county of Norfolk, Norwich, Norwich and Norfolk Archaelogical Society, (1847), vol. 3, pps 126-127. http://www.leshaigh.co.uk/kellawaymed/norfolktree.html. > > Inter Waltm. de Bersted quer' et Osbertum de Kaylly deforc'--De decem libratis et sexdecim denar' redditus in Wyuelesfeud, Wrth, Yfford, Meschyng, Ouingeden et Wychcenden; unde placitumconvencionis sum' fuit inter eos:--Osbertus recognovit predictum redditum cum pertientiis scil' homagium et totam servicium Johis. de la Bysse et heredum suorum de omnibus > tenementis que Johes. prius tenuit de Osberto in eisdem villis sine aliquo retinemento esse jus Walti.,tenendum &c., faciendo as scutagium quando evenerit servitum feodi unius militis pro omni servitio:--Pro hoc fine Walts. dedit Osberto quater viginti et decem libras. Et hec concordia facta fuit in eadem curis Walto. homogium fecit. 47 H. III--1263 > > Doug Smith > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GEN-MEDIEVAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message