On Tuesday, June 21, 2016 at 10:20:54 AM UTC-4, taf wrote: ... > True, yet he does cite his sources: Dugdale and Coughton Records. The former gives no information on the wives of these men. As to the latter, these are the unpublished deeds and other documents of Coughton manor, and it is unclear if the details he provides (in footnotes on a chart) represent everything he was going on. > > For the Durvassal connection, it looks like William Spyne was serving as paper-plaintiff in a fine resettling Spernore on William Durvassal and his mother (or step-mother) Sibyl. I am not sure why this implies a relationship, but it is notable that Throckmorton shows this woman married to William de Sutton, and I see no mention of him elsewhere that explains his inclusion, so it appears there is more to these Coughton Records than is being detailed in the footnotes. ... Perhaps this quitclaim suggests that William Spyne's widow Margery married a Walter de Sutton: http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C5520869 Reference:E 210/9005 Description: John son of Hugh de Northfolk to Walter de Suttone of Warwick, Margery his wife, and the heirs of William de la Spyne: Quitclaim of a messuage and land in North Littleton: Worcs. Date: 11 Edw. II. [8 July 1317-7 July 1318]

On Tuesday, June 21, 2016 at 7:43:12 AM UTC-7, Jan Wolfe wrote: > Perhaps this quitclaim suggests that William Spyne's widow Margery married > a Walter de Sutton: > > http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C5520869 > Reference:E 210/9005 > Description: John son of Hugh de Northfolk to Walter de Suttone of > Warwick, Margery his wife, and the heirs of William de la Spyne: > Quitclaim of a messuage and land in North Littleton: Worcs. > Date: 11 Edw. II. [8 July 1317-7 July 1318] Just as a reminder, VCH Warwickshire, in covering Coughton, says: "In 1300 William 'of Spinney' was said to hold that part of the vill of Coughton with its wood and plain which was 'on the side of the river Arrow towards the west', (fn. 83) and in 1315 he was holding Coughton as ½ knight's fee of Guy, Earl of Warwick. (fn. 84) He died before the end of 1316, (fn. 85) having enfeoffed William de Sutton of Warwick of the manor.* In 1318 the manor was settled on William Sutton and his wife Margery for their lives, with remainders to William son of William 'del Espine' and his issue, or Joan his sister, Alice her sister, or his right heirs, (fn. 86) and William de Sutton is referred to as lord of Coughton in 1320. (fn. 87) It is possible that William de Sutton had married the widowed Margery de Spineto and obtained the guardianship of her son and his estate. " 83. Select Pleas of the Forest (Selden Soc.), 120. 84. Cal. Inq. p.m. v, p. 405; Cal. Close, 1313–18, p. 278; cf. Feud Aids, v, 178. 85. Cal. Inq. p.m. vi, 70. 86. Dugd. 748; Feet of F. (Dugd. Soc. xv), 1489. 87. P.R.O. Anct. Deeds, B. 1653. taf