On Monday, April 30, 2012 at 8:07:38 PM UTC-4, Brad Verity wrote: > On Apr 30, 3:29 pm, "mholl...@mac.com" <hollic...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Jasper was the son of William Tyrrell and Philipa Thornbury. > > Martin, thank you for the reply (and thank you to Douglas for > contacting you). Jasper may not have been the son of the couple > above. The William Tyrrell who was father of Jasper is said by HOP to > have died 28 September 1543, when he was succeeded by his grandson, > Edmund Tyrrell, who must have been returned as age 30 and more, so > born by 1513. HOP's source for this is William Tyrrell's IPM > (C142/71/98). > > > William > > in turn is the son of John Tyrrell and Alice Coggeshall.  The Tyrrells > > are outlined in “The Tyrells of England” by Oliver F. Brown > > (Phillimore, Chicester, Sussex, 1982). > > Sir John Tyrrell, Speaker of the House of Commons, was born about 1382 > and died in 1437. His first wife Alice Coggeshall died in 1422. The > youngest of their five sons was William Tyrrell of Beeches in > Rawreth. The latest date he could be born is 1422. He may be the > William Tyrrell who married Philippa Thornbury, but he most definitely > could not be the William Tyrrell (d. 1543) who was the father of James > (d. 1539), and grandfather of Edmund (c.1513-1576) and your Joan > Tyrrell, wife of Edmund Lewkenor (d. 1545) above. > > Cheers, -----Brad Brad, Martin, Douglas, others I came across this website which includes transcripts of a number of documents relating to EDWARD DE VERE, 17TH EARL OF OXFORD. A number of the documents pertain to the Tyrrell's and three wills in particular seem to cornfirm the parentage of Jasper Tyrrell was William Tyrrell and Philippa Thornbury unless I am interpreting them incorrectly. They are linked below and are present after some commentary by the author of the pages. The first is the will dated 16 March 1471, of Sir William Tyrrell of Beeches http://www.oxford-shakespeare.com/Probate/PROB_11-5-167.pdf The second is the will dated 6 November 1576 and proved 29 November 1576, of Edmund Tyrrell of Ramsden Barrington, the son of Jasper Tyrrell and Anne Goring http://www.oxford-shakespeare.com/Probate/PROB_11-58-499.pdf The third is the will dated 20 December 1493 and proved 28 November 1494, of John Tyrrell of Beeches, eldest son and heir of Sir William Tyrrell http://www.oxford-shakespeare.com/Probate/PROB_11-10-311.pdf There are a number of other documents on this site that may be useful to researchers on the newsgroup. Regards, Jordan Vandenberg