T'was I who originally placed Helen as daughter of Allachie in the Roglo database as she is many times an ancestor of mine. I did however find new evidence that shows she was indeed daughter of Ballintomb in the last few months. Unfortunately we are in the throes of moving and with the combined 10,000 books I have along with the countless family trees i have collated i will not be able to find the suitable data for this lady in the short term. As i explained to Brad in an earlier email, there may be a short cut. I sent my original findings to a cousin who also genealogises and he may have kept my findings, if so I will post them onto this group. In short the proof lies in three land exchanges or gifts from Allachie to his niece, Helen, daughter of his older brother Ballintomb and wife of the 'Goodman of Keithmore'. He left his niece most of his estate. Interesting the appendage of 'Goodman' denoting that Alex Duff, whose sword I have, Was not of Gentle birth! Peter