This is just an update which may provide a clearer date range for the birth of Henry Spencer of Badby, Northamptonshire. According to a book by Gary Boyd Roberts, "Ancestors of American Presidents", Roberts, 1995, the date given for Henry's birth is c. 1420, which now seems to be quite off. If this is the same person as referred to in his book, then the deed below dated to 12 Nov 1430, seems to suggest he is at least 10 years older. Caution: I have not seen the book myself, the date I quote is from Norris Taylor's website, referring to the dates given in the book, while he was comparing various charts. Perhaps someone has a copy of same and can confirm the 1420 date or correct me. I doubt Henry Spencer was 10 years old when he appears in this deed. Henry Spenser of Badby CP 25/1/179/94, number 58. Link: Image of document at AALT County: Northamptonshire. Place: Westminster. Date: The day after St Martin, 9 Henry VI [12 November 1430]. Parties: Thomas Mollesley, William Byfeld' of Couentre, draper, Hugh Hychecok' of Kyrkeby, John Mollesley of London', Henry Spenser of Badby and Thomas, son of Thomas Marche, querents, and John Waundell' of Kyllesby, deforciant. Property: 1 messuage and 1 shop in Dauentre. Action: Plea of covenant. Agreement: John Waundell' has acknowledged the tenements to be the right of William, as those which William, Thomas, Hugh, John Mollesley, Henry and Thomas have of his gift, and has remised and quitclaimed them from himself and his heirs to Thomas, William, Hugh, John Mollesley, Henry and Thomas and the heirs of William for ever. Warranty: Warranty. For this: Thomas, William, Hugh, John Mollesley, Henry and Thomas have given him 20 marks of silver. Henry Spencer b. before 1410, he died in 16 Ed. IV (4 Mar 1475/76)= Isabel Lincoln - o.b. 18 Ed IV ( 1478/79) He obtained a lease of tithes from Evesham Abbey for land at Badby in 20 Hen. VI.- (1441-1442) he was possibly educated at Evesham. Robert Spencer