I think an IPM trumps a biography. [Trump as in bridge, not politics :-) ] Kay Allen On Saturday, July 16, 2016 1:17 PM, P J Evans via <gen-medieval@rootsweb.com> wrote: On Saturday, July 16, 2016 at 11:51:55 AM UTC-7, Kay Allen via wrote: > Patrick and all, > They are also behind Alice Freeman Tompson Park. Lee seems to have the better handle on this. There is also a Danvers genealogy which concurs, but may be dependent on Lee. Sorry, I don't have notes to hand. > Kay Allen > >    On Saturday, July 16, 2016 6:25 AM, Patrick Nielsen Hayden via <gen-medieval@rootsweb.com> wrote: >  > >  Richard Fowler, chancellor to Edward IV and of the duchy of Lancaster, > married a Joan Danvers.  They were 4XG-grandparents to Anne Marbury > Hutchinson. > > According to the Westminster Abbey website's biographical squib about > William Fowler, father of Richard, Joan was a "daughter of Henry Danvers, > mercer of London." (At www.westminster-abbey.org/archive/our-history/people/ > william-fowler.) Wikipedia's article about Richard Fowler repeats this > claim about Joan Danvers' parentage. > > But Frederick George Lee's 1883 _History, Description and Antiquities of the > Prebendal Church of the Blessed Virgin Mary of Thame_ transcribes (on p. > 299-300) a 1483 IPM for Sibilla Quartermayns, who died in the same year, > that seems to pretty clearly indicate that Richard Fowler's wife Joan > Danvers was a daughter of John Danvers (d. 1449) and Joan Bruley.  Richard > Fowler's wife is called "Jane...daughter of Jane, wife of John Danvers and > daughter of Matilda, one sister of Richard Quartermayne." Joan Bruley's > mother was Maud Quartermayne. > > Am I offbase?  Is there any reason to suppose the Westminster Abbey site is > correct about this Joan Danvers' parents? > > > -- > Patrick Nielsen Hayden > pnh@panix.com > about.me/patricknh > http://nielsenhayden.com/genealogy-tng/index.php > I think you're referring to _Memorials of the Danvers Family of Dauntsey_, which is available through Google books. The most relevant pages are 214-215, where he gives an abstract of the IPM for Sibilla, wife of Richard Quatremayn. _Memorials_ is apparently relying on Lee for this, but the originals are said to be at the PRO. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GEN-MEDIEVAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message