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    1. The Last Neville of Scotton
    2. John Watson via
    3. Dear all, I have been searching in vain for a pedigree of the Nevilles of Scotton in the 14th century. The account in Complete Peerage, vol. 9, pp. 476-8 ends with Robert de Neville who founded a chantry in Scotton in 1294. Robert de Neville died about 1316 and was succeeded by his son Philip, and he by his son Philip. Was there another Philip after these? The last male heir if the Nevilles was a Philip de Neville who left a daughter and heiress Maud, successively wife of Sir William Cantelou (murdered at Scotton, 31 March 1375), Sir Thomas de Kydale (died before 30 November 1381) and Sir John Bussy (executed at Bristol on 29 July 1399). Maud died before June 1386 when Sir John Bussy was married to Mary, widow of John de Multon of Frampton (died in Prussia, 18 August 1368), and Ralph Daubeney of South Ingleby, South Petherton, etc. [this marriage is not shown in Complete Peerage] who died after December 1378. Does anyone know when the last Philip Neville died and who he married? Regards, John

    05/04/2016 05:58:31
    1. Re: The Last Neville of Scotton
    2. alden via
    3. Hi John I show Maud's parents as a Sir Robert son of Sir Philip and Isabel de Beaumont. Sir Robert marrying Joan Deincourt heiress of Sir Roger D. and Maud Bugge. I only have secondary references: Rosie Bevan, A Study of A Medieval Knightly Family: The Longfords of Derbyshire, Part 1, Foundations, Vol. 1, Number 4, July 2004, pps 211-231. Robert Thoroton, History of Nottinghamshire, Volume 1, London, 1797, p 360. And some of the information conflicts. I have not looked for any primary doc. so what I currently have may well be wrong. Doug Smith The Sir Robert I have did have an older brother Philip (I think) Sorry I don't have more here.

    05/04/2016 06:10:43
    1. Re: The Last Neville of Scotton
    2. Jason Quick via
    3. John There is a Pedigree called, Treaunt, De Lay Hay & Neville of Brampton, in Bakers History of Northamptonshire. VOL 1 pg 83 The Phillip you are looking for shows. Sir Phillip Nevill, of Brampton, ob. 24 Aug. 1353 (48 Edw 3.) = Sarah d. of ....ob. 12 Aug 1344 (18 Edw 3) (Daughter) Maud, d. and h.;of Brampton; and Enderby,co. Leic Scotton and Malmeton, co. Linc. Parkhall and Moreton, co. Derb and Limethyft, co. Devon. = Sir John Bussy, of Houghton, co Linc. beheaded at Bristol, and attained Hen 4. (1399) Jason

    05/04/2016 10:12:34
    1. Re: The Last Neville of Scotton
    2. Douglas Richardson via
    3. Dear John ~ Thank you for your good post. Much appreciated. I see you have identified Mary, wife of Sir Ralph Daubeney and Sir John Bussy, as previously being the wife of John de Multon, who died in Prussia, 18 August 1368. Can I ask your source for the marriage of Mary and John de Multon? Recently I located two Common Pleas lawsuits which involve Sir Ralph Daubeney and his wife, Mary. The first lawsuit establishes that Ralph and Mary were married before Trinity term 1376. l. In 1376 Ralph and his wife, Mary, sued Robert Blades in the Court of Common Pleas regarding a debt of 10 marks. Reference: Court of Common Pleas, CP40/463, image 62f (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT4/E3/CP40no463/aCP40no463fronts/IMG_0062.htm). 2. In 1377 Ralph and his wife, Mary, sued John del More, of Asgarby, Lincolnshire and Robert Carter in the Court of Common Pleas regarding their fee at Kirkby la Thorpe, Lincolnshire. Reference: Court of Common Pleas, CP40/466, image 63 (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT6/R2/CP40no466/466_0063.htm). I believe the fee at Kirkby la Thorpe, Lincolnshire was part of Mary's dower from her first marriage to John de Multon. If so, this information helps confirm Mary's marriage to John de Multon. Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

    05/06/2016 02:27:14