This was a speculation or possibility on which I posted some time ago: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/GEN-MEDIEVAL/2010-02/1266617375 I would just like to point out that the Scrope marriage (to Rochford) is accepted in the online thesis below (p. 312): http://etheses.whiterose.ac.uk/2492/1/DX210326.pdf "Little is known of Ralph [Rochford's] son, Henry, despite his father having secured a prestigious marriage to a daughter of Lord Scrope, but he had no sons [sic] and on his death in 1470, his lands passed to Henry Stanhope, the husband of his daughter and heiress, Joan." However, even if we can accept that link, we should verify a later connection in the chain if the whole is to be accepted. John Nichols' _History and Antiquities of the Town and County of Leicester_, vol. 4, pt. 2, p. 1025, was the basis for the claim that Catherine Ludford (d. 1633), who married Thomas Percivall, M.D., of London, was the daughter of Anthony Ludford of Rowington, Warwickshire (the Rochford-Stanhope descendant) by his wife Mary, daughter of Simon Pope of Oxfordshire. However, the London marriage licenses from 1560 showed Anthony Ludford marrying Mary Pope, WIDOW. https://books.google.com/books?id=i6wKAAAAYAAJ&pg=RA1-PA21&dq=%22anthony+ludford%22&lr=&cd=4#v=onepage&q=%22anthony%20ludford%22&f=false The Buckinghamshire Visitation of 1634 shows a Simon Pope of Oxfordshire with a daughter, ____, married to "Dr. Percivall." https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015039595502;view=1up;seq=31 Is it possible that the wife of Dr. Thomas Percival was a daughter of Mary Pope, widow of Simon Pope, by her first (i.e., Pope), rather than second (i.e., Ludford), husband? If so, the Scrope-Rochford-Stanhope-Skeffington-Ludford descent of Anthony Ludford would be irrelevant.

Looking at the funeral certificates of both Dr. Thomas Percivall and his wife, Catherine, I note that both definitely state her identity as daughter of Anthony Ludford of Warwickshire. Presumably, however, the 1634 Bucks Visitation shows the descendants of her half-sister, Elizabeth Pope, daughter of Simon and Mary (___) Pope, who married John Bird. The line from Elizabeth Scrope, IF CORRECT, appears to go: Elizabeth Scrope, widow of Bigod (d. 1461) = (2) Henry Rochford of Stoke Rochford ; m. (3) Oliver St. John (by 2) Joan Rochford = (1477) to Henry Stanhope Edmond Stanhope = Alice [? Flye], who remarried to a Darrell Margaret Stanhope, coheiress = Thomas Skeffington Dame Elizabeth Bigod, nee Scrope, widow also of Rochford and St. John, mentions the King's mother (Margaret Beaufort) in her will of 1503, this lady being the mother of her third husband, Oliver St. John. The building of Henry VII's opulent tomb was begun in 1503 in the presence of "Maister Hugh Oldham chapleine to the Countesse of Darbie and Richmond the King's mother, Sir Edmond Stanhope, knight, and diuerse others." Is this "Sir Edmond Stanhope" possibly the son of Henry Stanhope by Joan Rochford? Looking through the Stanhope pedigree in the Notts. Visitation, I fail to see any other EDMUND, though there is an Edward at the right time: https://books.google.com/books?id=2_JMAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA6&dq=%22henricus+stanhop%22+%22soror+et%22&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjxqty9tsPMAhWGNiYKHeeZBSwQ6AEIJzAB#v=onepage&q=%22henricus%20stanhop%22%20%22soror%20et%22&f=false Kenneth Muir, in _Life and Letters of Sir Thomas Wyatt_, states that "Sir Edward Darrell married Jane, the daughter of Sir Richard Croft, then Mary, the daughter of Lord Fitzwalter, and finally Alice, the widow of Sir Edmond Stanhope." https://books.google.com/books?id=BNY6AAAAMAAJ&q=%22edmund+stanhope%22&dq=%22edmund+stanhope%22&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiCp8aMusPMAhXLPCYKHb0nBYk4PBDoAQgtMAQ Here then is a claim that this Edmond was actually a SIR EDMOND Stanhope. [? Sir] Edmond Stanhope, husband of Alice ?Flye, was dead by April 1512, the date given by the HOP for her remarriage to Sir Edward Darrell, M.P. https://books.google.com/books?id=u_eIrJpc_T0C&pg=PA18&dq=%22edmund+stanhope%22+darrell&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi81a7ewcPMAhUG4iYKHYDaB40Q6AEIHDAA#v=onepage&q=%22edmund%20stanhope%22%20darrell&f=false The following passage, from the Nottinghamshire inquisitions post mortem, may refer to the young Edmond Stanhope, son of Henry and Joan (Rochford) Stanhope: "Humphrey Hersye and Thomas Molyneux by another charter dated ... January, 8 Henry vii [1491-2] granted the said yearly rent of 10 marks to John Stanhope, esquire, to have and take to him and his assigns for term of his life immediately after the death of Matilda, Lady Willoughby; and after her decease and the decease of the said John, they granted that the said yearly rent should remain to a certain Edmund Stanhope son and heir apparent of the said Henry Stanhope [mentioned above], to have and take to him and his assigns for term of his life; and after the decease of Matilda, Lady Willoughby, of John Stanhope and of Edmund Stanhope they granted that the said yearly rent do wholly remain to Henry Stanhope, esquire, to have and take to him and the heirs male of his body lawfully begotten. Should Henry die without such heir then they granted that the yearly rent do wholly remain to the right heirs of the said John Stanhope forever." https://books.google.com/books?id=vGA1AQAAMAAJ&pg=PA164&dq=%22edmund+stanhope%22&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiI2-Wtt8PMAhVIOiYKHbaKAQ0Q6AEIHDAA#v=onepage&q=%22edmund%20stanhope%22&f=false Some details about Alice ?Flye, widow of Edmund Stanhope, afterwards wife of Sir Edward Darrell, are given here: https://books.google.com/books?id=bltIAAAAYAAJ&pg=RA1-PA228&dq=%22catharine+married+to+thomas+skeffington%22&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiX1M62xcPMAhVE5iYKHWYKCIwQ6AEIHTAA#v=onepage&q=%22catharine%20married%20to%20thomas%20skeffington%22&f=false

Dear John ~ Great work as ever. Thanks for sharing your findings with the newsgroup. Below is a weblink to the original marriage contract with an accompanying modern transcript for Henry Stanhope and Jane Recheford [Rochford], daughter of Harry Rechefort, Esq. This document is dated 28 September 1476. http://mssweb.nottingham.ac.uk/document-viewer/medieval-women/theme5/document2/09-6418m-5-2_1.asp Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah