On Friday, May 27, 2016 at 9:16:22 AM UTC-7, Richard Smith wrote: > > The Henry Project must be going on more than ten years now and is > > not yet complete despite an extremely more limited scope. > > Again, it's not an especially collaborative project: it's just two > people, and there's no suggestion that they're seeking additional > collaborators. To give credit where it is deservedly due, it's just one person. Without going into details as to why two names are listed, all current pages represent the work of Stewart Baldwin. The other guy has made a few suggestions here and there, but in terms of actually compiling pages, his total contribution was half-done research on one line that never made it to the stage of a formal write-up before being passed on to Mr. Baldwin. taf
On 5/27/2016 2:01 PM, tafarmerie via wrote: > On Friday, May 27, 2016 at 9:16:22 AM UTC-7, Richard Smith wrote: >>> The Henry Project must be going on more than ten years now and is >>> not yet complete despite an extremely more limited scope. >> Again, it's not an especially collaborative project: it's just two >> people, and there's no suggestion that they're seeking additional >> collaborators. > To give credit where it is deservedly due, it's just one person. Without going into details as to why two names are listed, all current pages represent the work of Stewart Baldwin. The other guy has made a few suggestions here and there, but in terms of actually compiling pages, his total contribution was half-done research on one line that never made it to the stage of a formal write-up before being passed on to Mr. Baldwin. Although the vast majority of the material appearing in the Henry Project was written by me, it has not been entirely a one man project. Most notably, it should be pointed out that Peter Stewart wrote three of the pages which currently appear on the website (those for Adele of France, wife of Baldwin V, count of Flanders, and her two parents Robert II of France and Constance of Arles). In addition to that, there are quite a few of the other pages which were compiled by me, but were either based partly on material which Peter had contributed to this newsgroup/mailing list, or included additions or corrections made by Peter (indicated individually on the relevant pages). (There is also a significant backlog of additions and corrections which Peter has pointed out in this group which I have not yet gotten around to changing.) When I first started the Henry Project back in 2001, there had been much discussion on this group about how to form the ideal database of medieval genealogy. In contrast to the "anybody can submit anything they want" type of database that was being suggested by some, others (including me) were emphasizing the necessity for some kind of "quality control." As first conceived, the Henry Project was intended to be an experiment in forming a "collaborative" database in medieval genealogy, with the size of the project hopefully kept manageable by limiting it to the few hundred individuals who were ancestors of Henry II of England. In what can only be called an incredible flight of fantasy on my part, I thought that there would be a significant number of submissions of material to the project by others, and that at least some of them would be of reasonable quality. To deal with the expected "deluge" of submissions (which, as it turned out, did not even qualify as a "trickle"), I formed an "Editorial Board" to decide which submissions got included, and asked the group for volunteers to join me on the board, mainly to help me decide which submissions were suitable. Todd Farmerie was the only volunteer. I started writing pages to serve as examples for the format, but after receiving only one submission in the first year (by a novice using only mediocre secondary sources, which I had to politely reject), I realized that it was going be largely a one man job, fortunately amplified later on by Peter Stewart's top-notch submissions, for which I am very grateful. While Todd did not compose any of the Henry Project pages, I made significant use of material which he had posted to the group or had sent to me privately, especially on some of the Anglo-Saxon pages. I should also add that James Hansen, FASG carefully read most of the pages and pointed out numerous corrections and a huge number of typographical errors. As for the obvious question about the unfinished part of the Henry Project (the ancestors of Charlemagne plus a handful of others), I have always planned to get back to it, but I'm not sure exactly when that will be. I also have other genealogical projects at various stages of completion (most notably, a 200+ page genealogy of the Baird family and an ever-growing account of the descendants of Richard Doggett of Groton, co. Suffolk, who lived in the early 1500's). Also, I have been distracted by all of the newly available records which have given me more newly proven ancestors in the last year than in the previous ten years combined. Stewart Baldwin