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    1. Re: Marriage of Empress Matilda and Geoffrey of Anjou
    2. taf via
    3. On Wednesday, June 1, 2016 at 11:13:42 AM UTC-7, Stewart Baldwin via wrote: > I wonder if Agatha holds the record for most different > published theories on her origin and parentage, or if that distinction > belongs to some other figure. Probably Agatha - I can't think of any others with that number, unless you count the 'Prince near the Alps' who married one of Edward the Elder's daughters, but that debate is more about identity than parentage. I think the one with the next most is Jimena, mistress of Alfonso VI. One who has the potential to give Agatha a run for her money is Stephanie, wife of William, Count of Burgundy, who has three that I know of. Both of these are the opposite problem to Agatha - a near-total lack of information, as opposed to vague and conflicting information. taf

    06/01/2016 08:29:24
    1. Re: Marriage of Empress Matilda and Geoffrey of Anjou
    2. Peter Stewart via
    3. On 2/06/2016 7:29 AM, taf via wrote: > On Wednesday, June 1, 2016 at 11:13:42 AM UTC-7, Stewart Baldwin via wrote: > >> I wonder if Agatha holds the record for most different >> published theories on her origin and parentage, or if that distinction >> belongs to some other figure. > Probably Agatha - I can't think of any others with that number, unless you count the 'Prince near the Alps' who married one of Edward the Elder's daughters, but that debate is more about identity than parentage. I think the one with the next most is Jimena, mistress of Alfonso VI. One who has the potential to give Agatha a run for her money is Stephanie, wife of William, Count of Burgundy, who has three that I know of. Both of these are the opposite problem to Agatha - a near-total lack of information, as opposed to vague and conflicting information. > It's a gender hazard that these candidates are female - the same degree of mystery is usually not open for speculation in men of similar status. A few Byzantine ladies have yet to be pinned as fully-labelled genealogical specimens with accepted parentage, for instance Emperor Otto II's wife Theophanu and Guillaume VIII of Montpellier's wife Eudokia. Peter Stewart

    06/02/2016 05:52:07