On 2016-06-19 22:00:16 +0000, Kay Allen via said: > Dear Patrick and all, > VCH Warwickshire is available at British History Online.  This might > throw some light on the Durvassal-Spiney=plus perhaps Holt issues.  The > archives may have some discussion also. Hello, Kay -- As far as I can see, all that VCH Warwickshire (specifically, "Parishes: Coughton" in volume 3, pages 74-86) tells us about these generations is: William de Spineto, also called "del Espine" (d. "before the end of 1316") = Margery | William "del Espinee" (d. bet. 1370 and 1398) = Alice | Sir Guy Spine = Katherine | Eleanor = John Throckmorton, son of Thomas Throckmorton of Fladbury, Worcs. I searched the whole multi-volume county history for all the variants I could imagine of Spine/Spyne/Spineto/Spinney; nothing came up indicating any marriages to Durvassals or Bruleys. -- Patrick Nielsen Hayden pnh@panix.com about.me/patricknh http://nielsenhayden.com/genealogy-tng/index.php

On Tuesday, June 21, 2016 at 7:24:20 AM UTC-4, Patrick Nielsen Hayden wrote: > On 2016-06-19 22:00:16 +0000, Kay Allen via said: > > > Dear Patrick and all, > > VCH Warwickshire is available at British History Online.  This might > > throw some light on the Durvassal-Spiney=plus perhaps Holt issues.  The > > archives may have some discussion also. > And here we are. The identity of the families of the wives of the William de Spines and Guy de Spine has no evidence whatsoever other than the word of Mr. Throckmorton, who has been clearly shown to be very unreliable. At this point, Mr. Throckmorton should be cast aside and RD800 should have a correction added. Does anyone have a way to contact Gary Boyd Roberts? How exciting. We can throw away these (probably false) identities, and start with a clean slate to identify the proper individuals. --Joe Cook