As far as I've been able to tell, it's Alice Freeman's supposed Carolingian ancestry that's been proven, unproven, reproven, and (most recently) unproven again. Her descent from Aethelred II "Ill-counseled" seems to be on reasonably firm ground. Below is what I have from what seem to me like decent secondary sources -- if anything seems dodgy, or has been more recently disproven, please point it out. Sources: (1) The Henry Project (2) Oxford Dictionary of National Biography (3) Complete Peerage (4) G. Andrews Moriarty, "The Royal Descent of a New England Settler." NEHGR 79:358, 1925. (5) G. Andrews Moriarty, "The Morteyns of Marston and Tillsworth." TAG 38:194, 1922. (6) G. Andrews Moriarty, "Genealogical Research in England." NEHGR 74:231, 74:267, 1920; 75:57, 75:129, 1921. (7) Robert L. Steenrod, "Alice (Freeman) (Tompson) Parke." TAG 29:215, 1953. (8) Randy A. West, "Alice Freeman, Wife of John Tompson of Preston Capes, Northamptonshire, and of Robert Parke of Connecticut: New Information on Her Parents, Siblings, Children, and First Husband." TAG 87:209, January-April 2015. Aethelred II "Unraed", king of England, b. abt 968 (1), d. 23 Apr 1016, London (1); m. a woman possibly named Aelfgifu (1) Aelfgifu, daughter of Aethelred II & Aelfgifu (1), m. Uhtred, earl of Northumbria (1), who d. 1016 (1) Ealdgyth, daughter of Uhtred & Aelfgifu (1) (2), m. Maldred (1) (2) Gospatric, earl of Northumbria, son of Maldred & Ealdgyth (2), b. bet. 1040 and 1048 (3), d. bet. 1073 and 1075 (2), wife unknown Gospatric, earl of Lothian, son of Gospatric (2), d. prob. in the Battle of the Standard, 22 Aug 1138 (2), wife unknown Juliana, daughter of the second Gospatric (2), m. Ranulph de Merlay (2) of Morpeth, Northumberland (2) Roger de Merlay, son of Ranulph & Juliana (4), d. 1188 (4), m. Alice de Stuteville (4) Agnes de Merlay, daughter of Roger & Alice (4), m. Richard Gobion (4), who d. bef. 27 Dec 1230, prob. in Gascony (4) Hugh Gobion, son of Richard & Agnes (4), d. 1275 (4), m. Matilda (4) Joan Gobion, daughter of Hugh & Matilda (4), d. aft 1312 (5), m. John de Morteyn (4) who d. 1296 (4) (5) John de Morteyn, son of John & Joan (4), of Merston, Bedfordshire (4) (5), d. 1346 (4), m. Joan de Rothwell (4) Lucy de Morteyn, daughter of John & Joan (4) (5), m. John Giffard (4) who was of Twyford, Buckinghamshire (4) Thomas Giffard, son of John & Lucy (4), b. about 1345 (4) (6), of Twyford, Buckinghamshire (4) (6), d. 25 Sep 1394 (6), m. ab. 1361 (6) Elizabeth de Missenden (5) (6) who d. 1367 (6) Roger Giffard, son of Thomas & Elizabeth (6), b. abt 1367 (6), of Twyford, Buckinghamshire (6), d. 14 Apr 1409 (6), m. bef. 1408 (6) Isabel Stretley (6) who was prob. of Stretley, Buckinghamshire (6) Thomas Giffard, son of Roger & Isabel (6), b. 1408, Fringford, Oxfordshire (6), d. 29 May 1469 (6), m. Eleanor Vaux (6) John Giffard, son of Thomas & Eleanor (6), b. abt. 1431 (6), of Twyford, Buckinghamshire (6), d. bef. 23 Sep 1506 (6), m. Agnes Wynslow (6) Thomas Giffard, son of John & Agnes (6), of Twyford, Buckinghamshire (6), d. 10 Oct 1511 (6), m. Jane Langston (6) Amy (or Anna) Giffard, daughter of Thomas & Jane (6), b. bet. 1485 and 1490 (7), m. bef. 1511 (6) (7) Richard Samwell (6) (7), who was of Edgecote, Northamptonshire (6) and who d. 3 May 1519 (7) Susanna Samwell, daughter of Richard & Amy (7), m. in or aft. 1535 (7) Peter Edwards (7) who was of Peterborough, Northamptonshire (7) Edward Edwards, son of Peter & Susanna (7), b. abt 1537 (7), d. 1592 (7), m. Ursula Coles (7) who was bur. 2 Feb 1606, Awalton, Huntingdonshire (7) Margaret Edwards, daughter of Edward & Ursula (7) (8), b. abt. 1570 (8), d. aft. 23 Aug 1637 (8), m. (7) abt. 1591 (8) Henry Freeman (8) who was b. abt. 1566 (8) and who d. 5 Aug 1606, prob. Cranford St. John, Northamptonshire (8) Alice Freeman, later Tompson, later Parke, daughter of Henry & Margaret, (7) (8), b. abt. 1595 (8), d. aft. 24 Dec 1658, prob. New London or Stonington, Connecticut (8) -- Patrick Nielsen Hayden pnh@panix.com about.me/patricknh http://nielsenhayden.com/genealogy-tng/index.php
On Sunday, June 5, 2016 at 11:04:43 AM UTC-4, Patrick Nielsen Hayden wrote: > As far as I've been able to tell, it's Alice Freeman's supposed > Carolingian ancestry that's been proven, unproven, reproven, and (most > recently) unproven again. Her descent from Aethelred II "Ill-counseled" > seems to be on reasonably firm ground. This is my understanding as well. The ahnentafel I have for this fine fellow: > John Giffard, son of Thomas & Eleanor (6), b. abt. 1431 (6), of > Twyford, Buckinghamshire (6), d. bef. 23 Sep 1506 (6), m. Agnes Wynslow > (6) is this: 1. John Giffard, born Abt. 1431 of Twyford,Busks, England; died Bef September 23, 1506 in England. He married (1) Agnes Winslowe. She was born Abt. 1439 in England. 2. Thomas Giffard, born Bef. December 29, 1408 in Fringford, Oxford, England; died May 29, 1469 in England. He was the son of 4. Roger Giffard and 5. Isabel Stretele. He married 3. Eleanor Vaux Abt. 1430. 3. Eleanor Vaux, born Abt. 1410 in Twyford,Bucks, England. She was the daughter of 6. William Thomas Vaux and 7. Eleanor Drakelowe. 4. Roger Giffard, born Abt. 1367 in Twyford,Bucks, England; died April 14, 1409 in Bucks, England. He was the son of 8. Thomas Giffard and 9. Elizabeth de Missenden. He married 5. Isabel Stretele Bef. 1407 in England. 5. Isabel Stretele 6. William Thomas Vaux, born Abt. 1375 in Harrowden, Northamptonshire, England; died 1405 in England. He was the son of 12. William de Vaux and 13. Joan Thirning. He married 7. Eleanor Drakelowe Abt. 1398. 7. Eleanor Drakelowe 8. Thomas Giffard, born Abt. 1345 in Twyford,Bucks, England; died September 25, 1394 in Bucks, England. He was the son of 16. John Giffard and 17. Lucy de Morteyn. He married 9. Elizabeth de Missenden Abt. 1361. 9. Elizabeth de Missenden, died Abt. 1367. 12. William de Vaux He was the son of 24. William de Vaux and 25. Joan ?. He married 13. Joan Thirning. 13. Joan Thirning 16. John Giffard, born 1301 in Twyford,Bucks, England; died January 25, 1368/69 in England. He was the son of 32. John Giffard and 33. Alexandra de Gardinis. He married 17. Lucy de Morteyn. 17. Lucy de Morteyn, born Abt. 1305 in Tillsworth, Bedfordshire, England; died Aft. March 08, 1360/61 in England. She was the daughter of 34. John de Morteyn and 35. Joan De Rothwell. 24. William de Vaux, died Bef. 1373. He married 25. Joan ?. 25. Joan ? 32. John Giffard, born Abt. 1270 in Twyford,Bucks, England; died Aft. March 30, 1328. He was the son of 64. John Giffard. He married 33. Alexandra de Gardinis Abt. 1301. 33. Alexandra de Gardinis, born Abt. 1275 in Oxford, England; died Bef. 1328 in England. She was the daughter of 66. Thomas de Gardinis. 34. John de Morteyn, born Abt. 1274 in Tillsworth, England; died 1346. He was the son of 68. John de Morteyn and 69. Joan Gobion. He married 35. Joan De Rothwell 1304 in England. 35. Joan De Rothwell, born Abt. 1283. She was the daughter of 70. Richard de Rothwell. 64. John Giffard, born Abt. 1235 in Twyford,Bucks, England; died 1300 in England. He was the son of 128. Osbert Giffard and 129. Isabel de Bocland. 66. Thomas de Gardinis, born Abt. 1253 in Oxford, England. 68. John de Morteyn, born Abt. 1245 in Tillsworth, England; died 1296 in Bedfordshire, England. He was the son of 136. John de Morteyn and 137. Constance de Merston. He married 69. Joan Gobion. 69. Joan Gobion She was the daughter of 138. Hugh Gobion and 139. Matilda. 70. Richard de Rothwell 128. Osbert Giffard, born Abt. 1188 in Brimsfield, England. He was the son of 256. Elias Giffard and 257. Maud de Berkeley. He married 129. Isabel de Bocland Abt. 1230. 129. Isabel de Bocland, born Abt. 1211. She was the daughter of 258. Alan de Bocland and 259. Alice de Murdac. 136. John de Morteyn, died Aft. 1265. He married 137. Constance de Merston. 137. Constance de Merston, died Abt. 1293. She was the daughter of 274. Ralph de Merston. 138. Hugh Gobion, died 1275. He was the son of 276. Richard Gobion and 277. Agnes de Merlay. He married 139. Matilda. 139. Matilda 256. Elias Giffard, born Abt. 1142. He was the son of 512. Elias Giffard and 513. Bertha FitzPons. He married 257. Maud de Berkeley Abt. 1183. 257. Maud de Berkeley, born Abt. 1163. She was the daughter of 514. Maurice de Berkeley and 515. Alice de Berkeley. 258. Alan de Bocland, born Abt. 1189. He married 259. Alice de Murdac. 259. Alice de Murdac She was the daughter of 518. Ralph de Murdac and 519. Eve de Grey. 274. Ralph de Merston 276. Richard Gobion, died Bef. December 29, 1230 in Gascony. He married 277. Agnes de Merlay. 277. Agnes de Merlay She was the daughter of 554. Roger de Merlay and 555. Alice de Stuteville. 512. Elias Giffard, born Abt. 1095 in England; died Abt. 1190. He was the son of 1024. Elias Giffard and 1025. Ala ?. He married 513. Bertha FitzPons. 513. Bertha FitzPons, born Abt. 1115; died Aft. 1167. She was the daughter of 1026. Richard FitzPons and 1027. Maud de Gloucester. 514. Maurice de Berkeley, born Abt. 1120; died June 16, 1190. He was the son of 1028. Robert FitzHarding and 1029. Eva. He married 515. Alice de Berkeley 1154. 515. Alice de Berkeley She was the daughter of 1030. Roger III de Berkeley. 518. Ralph de Murdac, born Abt. 1140. He married 519. Eve de Grey. 519. Eve de Grey, born Abt. 1176. 554. Roger de Merlay, died 1188. He was the son of 1108. Ralph de Merlay and 1109. Juliana of Dunbar. He married 555. Alice de Stuteville. 555. Alice de Stuteville, died 1202. She was the daughter of 1110. Roger de Stuteville. 1024. Elias Giffard, born Abt. 1045 in Brimsfield, England; died in England. He was the son of 2048. Osbourne Giffard. He married 1025. Ala ?. 1025. Ala ? 1026. Richard FitzPons He married 1027. Maud de Gloucester. 1027. Maud de Gloucester She was the daughter of 2054. Walter of Gloucester and 2055. Bertha. 1028. Robert FitzHarding, born Abt. 1100; died Abt. 1170. He was the son of 2056. Harding. He married 1029. Eva. 1029. Eva 1030. Roger III de Berkeley He was the son of 2060. Roger II de Berkeley. 1108. Ralph de Merlay, died 1160. He was the son of 2216. William de Merlay and 2217. Menialde. He married 1109. Juliana of Dunbar. 1109. Juliana of Dunbar She was the daughter of 2218. Gospatrick II and 2219. Sybil Morel. 1110. Roger de Stuteville, died Bef. 1202. He was the son of 2220. Osmond de Stuteville and 2221. Isabel de Gressinghall. 2048. Osbourne Giffard, died Aft. 1096. He was the son of 4096. Osbern de Bolbec and 4097. Wevie de Crepon. 2054. Walter of Gloucester, died 1129. He was the son of 4108. Roger de Pistres. He married 2055. Bertha. 2055. Bertha 2056. Harding He was the son of 4112. Eadnoth. 2060. Roger II de Berkeley He was the son of 4120. Roger I de Berkeley and 4121. Rissa. 2216. William de Merlay, died Abt. 1129. He married 2217. Menialde. 2217. Menialde 2218. Gospatrick II, died August 22, 1138 in Cowton Moore, nr Northallerton . He was the son of 4436. Gospatrick I. He married 2219. Sybil Morel. 2219. Sybil Morel 2220. Osmond de Stuteville, died Bef. September 1202. He was the son of 4440. Robert de Stuteville and 4441. Erneburga de Baldric. He married 2221. Isabel de Gressinghall. 2221. Isabel de Gressinghall 4096. Osbern de Bolbec, born Abt. 940 in Longueville, Normandy. He married 4097. Wevie de Crepon Abt. 1001. 4097. Wevie de Crepon, born in Longueville, Normandy, France. 4108. Roger de Pistres 4112. Eadnoth, born Abt. 1030; died 1068. 4120. Roger I de Berkeley, died 1093. He married 4121. Rissa. 4121. Rissa 4436. Gospatrick I, died December 15, 1075 in Ubbanford, Scotland . He was the son of 8872. Maldred of Carlisle and 8873. Edith of Northumberland. 4440. Robert de Stuteville, died 1185. He was the son of 8880. Robert de Stuteville. He married 4441. Erneburga de Baldric. 4441. Erneburga de Baldric 8872. Maldred of Carlisle, born Abt. 1005. He was the son of 17744. Crinan and 17745. Bethoc of Scotland. He married 8873. Edith of Northumberland. 8873. Edith of Northumberland She was the daughter of 17746. Uchtred of Northumberland and 17747. Elgifu of England. 8880. Robert de Stuteville, died Aft. 1107. He was the son of 17760. Robert D'estouteville and 17761. Jeanne de Tallebot. 17744. Crinan, born Abt. 975; died 1045. He married 17745. Bethoc of Scotland. 17745. Bethoc of Scotland, born Abt. 975. She was the daughter of 35490. Malcolm II macCinaeda. 17746. Uchtred of Northumberland, born 989; died 1016. He married 17747. Elgifu of England. 17747. Elgifu of England She was the daughter of 35494. KING Ethelred the Unready and 35495. Elfgifu. 17760. Robert D'estouteville He married 17761. Jeanne de Tallebot. 17761. Jeanne de Tallebot 35490. Malcolm II macCinaeda, died November 25, 1034 in Glammis. He was the son of 70980. Keneth II macMaelColuim. 35494. KING Ethelred the Unready, born Abt. 968; died April 23, 1016 in London, Manchester, England. He was the son of 70988. KING Edgar the Peaceful and 70989. Alfthryth. He married 35495. Elfgifu. 35495. Elfgifu 70980. Keneth II macMaelColuim, died 995 in Fettercairn, Scotland. He was the son of 141960. Malcolm macDomnaill. 70988. KING Edgar the Peaceful, born Abt. 943; died July 08, 975. He was the son of 141976. KING EDMUND I and 141977. Elfgifu. He married 70989. Alfthryth. 70989. Alfthryth, born Abt. 945 in Lydford Castle, Devon; died Bet. November 17, 999 - 1002 in Wherwell Abbey, Hampshire. She was the daughter of 141978. Ordgar and 141979. ?. 141960. Malcolm macDomnaill, died 954. He was the son of 283920. Donald macCausantin. 141976. KING EDMUND I, born Abt. 922; died May 26, 946 in Pucklechurch. He was the son of 283952. Edward the Elder and 283953. Eadgifu. He married 141977. Elfgifu. 141977. Elfgifu, died Abt. May 18, 944. She was the daughter of 283955. Wynfled. 141978. Ordgar, died 971. He married 141979. ?. 141979. ?, died Bef. 981. 283920. Donald macCausantin, died 900 in Forres. He was the son of 567840. Causantin mac Cináeda. 283952. Edward the Elder, born Abt. 872; died July 17, 924 in in Farndon-On-Dee, Mercia, England. He was the son of 567904. KING Alfred the Great and 567905. Eahlswith of Gaini. He married 283953. Eadgifu. 283953. Eadgifu, died Aft. 966. She was the daughter of 567906. Sigehelm. 283955. Wynfled 567840. Causantin mac Cináeda, died 876. He was the son of 1135680. Cináed mac Alpin. 567904. KING Alfred the Great, born Abt. 849 in Wantage, Berkshire; died October 28, 899. He was the son of 1135808. Ethelwulf and 1135809. Osburga. He married 567905. Eahlswith of Gaini 868 in Wincester, England. 567905. Eahlswith of Gaini, died Bet. December 05, 902 - 903 in Wincester, England. She was the daughter of 1135810. Aethelred Mucil and 1135811. Eadburga. 567906. Sigehelm, died Bet. 902 - 904 in Battle of Holme. 1135680. Cináed mac Alpin, died February 08, 857/58 in Palace of Forteviot, Perthshire. He was the son of 2271360. Alpín mac Ech[d]ach. 1135808. Ethelwulf, born Abt. 800; died January 13, 857/58. He was the son of 2271616. Ecgbert III of Wessex and 2271617. Redburga. He married 1135809. Osburga. 1135809. Osburga She was the daughter of 2271618. Oslac. 1135810. Aethelred Mucil, died 866. He married 1135811. Eadburga. 1135811. Eadburga 2271360. Alpín mac Ech[d]ach, died Abt. 840 in Galloway. He was the son of 4542720. Eochaid mac Áeda Find. 2271616. Ecgbert III of Wessex, born Abt. 775; died February 04, 838/39. He was the son of 4543232. Eahlmund of Kent. He married 2271617. Redburga. 2271617. Redburga 2271618. Oslac 4542720. Eochaid mac Áeda Find, died Abt. 781. He was the son of 9085440. Áed Find mac Echdach. 4543232. Eahlmund of Kent, died Aft. 784. He was the son of 9086464. Eaba of Wessex. 9085440. Áed Find mac Echdach, died 778. He was the son of 18170880. Eochaid mac Echach. 9086464. Eaba of Wessex He was the son of 18172928. Eoppa. 18170880. Eochaid mac Echach, died 733. He was the son of 36341760. Eochu ua Domnaill. 18172928. Eoppa, died Abt. 718. He was the son of 36345856. Inglid. 36341760. Eochu ua Domnaill, died Abt. 697. He was the son of 72683520. Domangart mac Domnaill Bricc. 36345856. Inglid He was the son of 72691712. Cenred. 72683520. Domangart mac Domnaill Bricc, died Abt. 673. He was the son of 145367040. Domnall Brecc. 72691712. Cenred He was the son of 145383424. Ceolwald. 145367040. Domnall Brecc, died Abt. 643. He was the son of 290734080. Eochu Buide. 145383424. Ceolwald He was the son of 290766848. Cuthwulf. 290734080. Eochu Buide, died Abt. 632. He was the son of 581468160. Áedán mac Gabráin. 290766848. Cuthwulf, born Abt. 592. He was the son of 581533696. Cuthwine. 581468160. Áedán mac Gabráin, died Abt. 609. He was the son of 1162936320. Gabrán mac Domangairt. 581533696. Cuthwine, born Abt. 565. He was the son of 1163067392. Ceawlin. 1162936320. Gabrán mac Domangairt, died Abt. 559. He was the son of 2325872640. Domangart mac Fergusa. 1163067392. Ceawlin, died 593. He was the son of 2326134784. Cynric. 2325872640. Domangart mac Fergusa, died Abt. 506. He was the son of 4651745280. Fergus. 2326134784. Cynric He was the son of 4652269568. Creoda. 4651745280. Fergus, died Abt. 501. He was the son of 9303490560. Ercc. 4652269568. Creoda He was the son of 9304539136. Cerdic. 9303490560. Ercc 9304539136. Cerdic