On Wednesday, June 1, 2016 at 6:52:20 PM UTC-7, Peter Stewart via wrote: > It's a gender hazard that these candidates are female - the same degree > of mystery is usually not open for speculation in men of similar status. Interesting point. I can't think of a man with more than two alternatives, although I am sure there are some. > A few Byzantine ladies have yet to be pinned as fully-labelled > genealogical specimens with accepted parentage, for instance Emperor > Otto II's wife Theophanu and Guillaume VIII of Montpellier's wife Eudokia. Or perhaps they have been pinned so many times it has damaged the specimen. Oh, wait. I just thought of a man with more than 2. Jimeno, father of Garcia Jimenez, king of 'another part of' Navarre has had all manner of father's pinned above him (as well as a recent expert concluding he didn't exist at all). And then there is Inigo Arista, who is given three different patronymics by medieval sources. taf

On 2/06/2016 12:40 PM, taf via wrote: > On Wednesday, June 1, 2016 at 6:52:20 PM UTC-7, Peter Stewart via wrote: > >> It's a gender hazard that these candidates are female - the same degree >> of mystery is usually not open for speculation in men of similar status. > Interesting point. I can't think of a man with more than two alternatives, although I am sure there are some. > >> A few Byzantine ladies have yet to be pinned as fully-labelled >> genealogical specimens with accepted parentage, for instance Emperor >> Otto II's wife Theophanu and Guillaume VIII of Montpellier's wife Eudokia. > Or perhaps they have been pinned so many times it has damaged the specimen. > > Oh, wait. I just thought of a man with more than 2. Jimeno, father of Garcia Jimenez, king of 'another part of' Navarre has had all manner of father's pinned above him (as well as a recent expert concluding he didn't exist at all). And then there is Inigo Arista, who is given three different patronymics by medieval sources. > > Robert the Strong also had more than two, probably half a dozen or so, until a consensus was finally arrived at with Karl Glockner's 'Lorsch und Lothringen' in the late 1930s (though not everyone is convinced). Umberto Biancomano of Savoy is up there too. Peter Stewart