Dear Colleagues, I have a quotation from a medieval manuscript on the ancestry of the Peck family of Wakefield. Sadly however no source cited! Any suggestions for a researcher to find the original manuscript welcome or is there another route? Peter

On Saturday, April 30, 2016 at 5:49:22 PM UTC+1, Peter Cockerill wrote: > Dear Colleagues, > > I have a quotation from a medieval manuscript on the ancestry of the Peck family of Wakefield. Sadly however no source cited! Any suggestions for a researcher to find the original manuscript welcome or is there another route? > > Peter The following extract is from The Law Quarterly Review Vol 38 October 1922 page 464ff By WA Peck; 'We learn more from a manuscript record compiled in the sixteenth century by a member of the family, who writes; I toke this Raymembaransays owtt of divers other boks wythe yt Rentall of my lands syns the thmy yt I dyd occwpy Anno dni 1533. The first of my hawnsytwrs of my name that I can find of was in King Richard the Second days on Rychard Pek & Margett his wife and he bowght in hys lyfe thym sartn lands in Halyfax & Gledelyfe and he & hys wife had usshew thre sons yt is say Rychard, John & Thomas & dyed att Halyfax God hayfe Mersey on hys sowle. [FH records 414 Richard Peck husband of Margaret, 417 son Richard, 418 son Thomas , 403 son John] 'And hys son Rychard Pek was a man of Lawe and marryd Ellyn Kynge and he had no usshew wt her & she was sister to Sr John Kynge wecker of Halyfax. And the sayd Rychard Pek bowght fayre lands in King Henry the Syghts [sixths] thym & also byffore bowthe in Wakefield Halyfax Sowthe Howrom, Shelfe Hawle and in other playssys & dydd att Halyfax yt last yere of ye Rayne of Kynge Henry the Syght [probably 1461 rather than 1471] & was beryd att Halyfax Jesu hayfe mercy on hys sowle. [FH record 417] John Pek hys Border marrd Isabell Lacye dowghtter of John Lacy of Cromwell bothom and had usshewe wtt her fowre sons Rychard Robartt Thomas & John & the same John Pek dyed att Halyfax byfoe Rychard Pek hys brother ytt was ye man of law God hayfe mercy on hys sowle. And Thomas Pek thayre brothe was a prest.' [FH record John 403, Richard 396, Robert 406, Thomas 405, John 413] This brings us to firmer ground as the above can be checked by reference to the pedigrees recorded in the Heralds' Visitations.' My thanks to you all. Peter

On Saturday, April 30, 2016 at 5:49:22 PM UTC+1, Peter Cockerill wrote: > Dear Colleagues, > > I have a quotation from a medieval manuscript on the ancestry of the Peck family of Wakefield. Sadly however no source cited! Any suggestions for a researcher to find the original manuscript welcome or is there another route? > > Peter Ian I am very grateful to you for this. Have you any idea what might have prompted this Peck to write this account of his lands and who for? Tong the Herald visited Yorkshire in 1530 and recorded the Peck line but his account doesn't correspond with the cited manuscript which was written three years later? Thank you again for your help. Peter

On 02/05/16 15:42, Peter Cockerill wrote: > On Saturday, April 30, 2016 at 5:49:22 PM UTC+1, Peter Cockerill wrote: >> Dear Colleagues, >> >> I have a quotation from a medieval manuscript on the ancestry of the Peck family of Wakefield. Sadly however no source cited! Any suggestions for a researcher to find the original manuscript welcome or is there another route? >> >> Peter > > Ian I am very grateful to you for this. > > Have you any idea what might have prompted this Peck to write this account of his lands and who for? Tong the Herald visited Yorkshire in 1530 and recorded the Peck line but his account doesn't correspond with the cited manuscript which was written three years later? I think it's impossible to say exactly. One possibility might be a dispute as to property and he wanted to get his thoughts in order. It might be in connection with the marriage of one of his children and he wanted to show his position within local society. I don't have a copy of a 1530 visitation. There is a pedigree in Flowers' vistation of 1563-4. It seems similar to yours except that the Richard of the 2nd generation is simply dismissed as "dyed yonge" with no mention of a marriage. Thomas is given 3 sons but no other detail. If you haven't got that visitation I can send you the relevant pages off list. A likely source of discrepancies is that Tong's informant wasn't the same person as the author of your document. BTW, does the 1530 visitation have Kay[e] in it? -- Hotmail is my spam bin. Real address is ianng at austonley org uk