On 8 Jun 2004 17:05:17 -0700, [email protected] (Dr) wrote: >Hi Dario (Ciao) >I am wondering if you have someting on Venetian and Dalmatian heraladic rules? >Rgds. You guys are kidding, right? Say your kidding. Seriously, it is a blessing that this newsgroup does not see more of this coat of arms baloney being discussed. I expect it is because most people who participate in this newsgroup are way too serious to play that game. Thank God. Literally millions of dollars have been spent chasing the elusive coat of arms/family crest. Let's backup 30 to 35 years ago when the "genealogy kiosk" could be found in many shopping malls. There you'd find a person who would enter your surname into a computer. More often than not, Viola, up would pop your very own coat of arms. You could get a very fine printed copy of this, for a fee, of course. Also available were T shirts, cofee mugs, a leather bound one of a kind "Family History". All sorts of goodies were available. If the computer found nothing for your name, it was no problem at all to have a coat of arms or a family tree generated for you. While it may be hard to believe that this litrtle money maker is still around, fear not. See: http://genealogy.about.com/library/weekly/aa101501d.htm They are everywhere. Do a google search for <coats of arms scam>. You would think that the level of sophistication of the public today would be such that people in this "branch" of genealogy could not exist...wrong. It may be that some people just do not know better, or perhaps it's as simple as an ego trip. Whatever it is, it ain't genealogy! Freddie Freddie The Crook Finder is a free service of Freddie who's sole mission in life is to help people keep more of their own money in their own pockets.