Did you have a relative named "Luigia" that married Giovanni Placa (Placca o Place) from Venice? I don't know how many of children they had, but I do know they had twin daughters and, at least one other girl, named Maria (my grandmother) born 24 May 1883 Venice Italy Maria married Giuseppe Vento (my grandfather) born 4 Nov 1881 Lercara Friddi, Palermo, Sicily I am not sure if or when Giovanni Placa immigrated to Brazil. Maria and Guiseppe lived in Sao Paolo, Brazil for a few years prior to 1920 when they immigrated to America.