"Fabio Parri" <XXXparrif_ibbXXX@yahoo.com> a écrit dans le message de news: 3d5b62de.31218630@News.CIS.DFN.DE... > On Wed, 14 Aug 2002 23:48:27 +0200, "GRAGLIA francis" > <fgraglia@club-internet.fr> wrote: > > >Hello, > > > >I seek all information on my ancestor, the Count Otto de Mari. > >I know that he was an emisary of the King of Naples to Corsica (what they > >called a Console del Stato) In 1122 he moved to Corsica from Sicily. > >Can you help me? > > There's a Dutch woman called Marielle de Mari researching the De Mari > family. Are you already in contact with her ? > > Ciao, > > Fabio Bonjour Fabio, Yes I know Marielle, we have worked together for 3 months and now we became friends. Cordialement Hélène
On Thu, 15 Aug 2002 10:30:27 +0200, "GRAGLIA francis" <fgraglia@club-internet.fr> wrote: >Bonjour Fabio, >Yes I know Marielle, we have worked together for 3 months and now we became >friends. >Cordialement >Hélène Bonjour Helene, Aree your De Mari ancestor and Marielle's relatives ? I ask as his ancestors seem to be from Genua, so I'm just curious :)
"Fabio Parri" <XXXparrif_ibbXXX@yahoo.com> a icrit dans le message de news: 3d5b8f5b.42607666@News.CIS.DFN.DE... > On Thu, 15 Aug 2002 10:30:27 +0200, "GRAGLIA francis" > <fgraglia@club-internet.fr> wrote: > > >Bonjour Fabio, > >Yes I know Marielle, we have worked together for 3 months and now we became > >friends. > >Cordialement > >Hilhne > > Bonjour Helene, > > Aree your De Mari ancestor and Marielle's relatives ? I ask as his > ancestors seem to be from Genua, so I'm just curious :) Bonjour Fabio We do not know if the Count Otto de Mari is our common ancestor, we continue to seek. I need more than information on the Count to have a proof. I will be really happy to learn that we are same branch. I think as you that these origins are of Genoa. Cordialement Hilhne
"Fabio Parri" <XXXparrif_ibbXXX@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:3d5b8f5b.42607666@News.CIS.DFN.DE... > On Thu, 15 Aug 2002 10:30:27 +0200, "GRAGLIA francis" > <fgraglia@club-internet.fr> wrote: > >................... > Aree your De Mari ancestor and Marielle's relatives ? I ask as his > ancestors seem to be from Genua, so I'm just curious :) From ""GENOA & THE GENOESE" by Steven A. Epstein: Pg 21 - "A late document of 1256 supplied the names of those Genoese families that traced their noble roots back to the viscounts of the eleventh century. ...... The noble families included ........ de Mari .... and many others. " Pg 75 - "The family of the viscounts of Genoa had split into three main branches; the Carmandino, de Insulis (delle Isole), and Manesseno lines. The Carmandino line included the families of Avvocato, Lusio, Pevere, de Mari Serra and Usodimare." Pg 107 - "The Pevere and de Mari descended from the viscounts of Carmandino, and they vould be leaders of the imperial fraction in the city, ...." Pg 86 - "The year 1187 .... on 16 February, Lanfranco, the son of Giacomo de Turca, one of the consuls, assassinated another consul, Angelo de Mari." Pg 115 - " .... Guglielmo de Mari, the son of Angelo de Mari whom Laanfranco de Turca had assassinated back in 1187, gathered a coalition of malcontents: some nobles, many popolo and .... occupied houses and towers of Ingone .... " " ... the podestà ... firmly ordered these rebels to submit to his authority. For some reason de Mari backed down ... he swore to obey ..., but ..." " ... in November de Mari's compagna was dissolved, .." "Guglielmo's brother Ansaldo later became admiral under Frederic II and commander of the imperial naval forces attacking Genoa ..." ..............................
"Fabio Parri" <XXXparrif_ibbXXX@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:3d5b8f5b.42607666@News.CIS.DFN.DE... > On Thu, 15 Aug 2002 10:30:27 +0200, "GRAGLIA francis" > <fgraglia@club-internet.fr> wrote: > >................... > Aree your De Mari ancestor and Marielle's relatives ? I ask as his > ancestors seem to be from Genua, so I'm just curious :) From ""GENOA & THE GENOESE" by Steven A. Epstein: Pg 21 - "A late document of 1256 supplied the names of those Genoese families that traced their noble roots back to the viscounts of the eleventh century. ...... The noble families included ........ de Mari .... and many others. " Pg 75 - "The family of the viscounts of Genoa had split into three main branches; the Carmandino, de Insulis (delle Isole), and Manesseno lines. The Carmandino line included the families of Avvocato, Lusio, Pevere, de Mari Serra and Usodimare." Pg 107 - "The Pevere and de Mari descended from the viscounts of Carmandino, and they vould be leaders of the imperial fraction in the city, ...." Pg 86 - "The year 1187 .... on 16 February, Lanfranco, the son of Giacomo de Turca, one of the consuls, assassinated another consul, Angelo de Mari." Pg 115 - " .... Guglielmo de Mari, the son of Angelo de Mari whom Laanfranco de Turca had assassinated back in 1187, gathered a coalition of malcontents: some nobles, many popolo and .... occupied houses and towers of Ingone .... " " ... the podestà ... firmly ordered these rebels to submit to his authority. For some reason de Mari backed down ... he swore to obey ..., but ..." " ... in November de Mari's compagna was dissolved, .." "Guglielmo's brother Ansaldo later became admiral under Frederic II and commander of the imperial naval forces attacking Genoa ..." ..............................
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