"GRAGLIA francis" <fgraglia@club-internet.fr> wrote in message news:3d5ccc5c$0$11799$7a628cd7@news.club-internet.fr... > Bonjour, > But where did Otto pass? > Yet, he existed, that I am sure, we had a picture of him in the family. He > was Consul of State in 1122. Perhaps he did not make significant things, for > that he is not in the books? >------------------------------------------- In the same book of Epstein (Pg 34) there is written that " After the first known consuls, the compagna was restablished in 1102 with four consuls chosen for four years. This process was repeated ... until 1122, when the consuls began to serve one-year terms. Caffaro himself served as consul in 1122 .... Because no autobiographical detail survive about these early consuls except from Caffaro, ...." it might be difficult to find something about Otto (Ottonis, Otonis), if consul of Genoa.

Hello Alberto, Thank you very much for the time that you pass for my research. You are right, it will be difficult to find something on Otto de Mari! Cordialement Hélène "Alberto Forcheri" <albafor@yahoo.it> a écrit dans le message de news: ajj4f9$1c018d$1@ID-84984.news.dfncis.de... > > "GRAGLIA francis" <fgraglia@club-internet.fr> wrote in message > news:3d5ccc5c$0$11799$7a628cd7@news.club-internet.fr... > > Bonjour, > > > But where did Otto pass? > > Yet, he existed, that I am sure, we had a picture of him in the family. > He > > was Consul of State in 1122. Perhaps he did not make significant things, > for > > that he is not in the books? > >------------------------------------------- > > In the same book of Epstein (Pg 34) there is written that " After the first > known consuls, the compagna was restablished in 1102 with four consuls > chosen for four years. This process was repeated ... until 1122, when the > consuls began to serve one-year terms. Caffaro himself served as consul in > 1122 .... Because no autobiographical detail survive about these early > consuls except from Caffaro, ...." it might be difficult to find something > about Otto (Ottonis, Otonis), if consul of Genoa. > >