Steve Della Rocchetta wrote: > Cefame Ce means I'am, We are fame means hungary. > > Ciao Steve > Probably you means hungry And "ce" actually can be a old form of : c'e' (there is) so "ce fame" = there is hunger It is possible but I doubt. Firstly Frank reported a whole word, without separation (an ancient italian would write ce [space] fame). Secondly " c'e' " is an elision of " ci e ' ". O don't think ancient italians forget the apostrophe, always used to remember the cancelled vowel, and I think it is improbable that "ce" means "ci" of modern dialects. We can be sure only reading the whole prhase, to see the context. ciao cicero