Where on this site do you get to look at what you are ordering? How do you know who this crest was made for? Carleen

<CCarnivalewrote in message news:b2.bb55e42.2a18726e@aol.com... > Where on this site do you get to look at what you are ordering? How do you > know who this crest was made for? > Carleen > http://www.sog.org.uk/leaflets/arms.html "Armorial bearings do not appertain to all persons of a given surname but belong to and identify members of one particular family. Coats of arms and crests are a form of property and may rightfully be used only by the male-line descendants of the individual to whom they were first granted or allowed." For Further information do searches on www.google.com/ ... for: L'araldica, Heraldic, heraldica, Araldica, heraldry, Coat of Arms, Nobles, Family Crest, Nobility, Italian Nobility,

On 18 May 2002 21:13:57 -0600, CCarnivale@aol.com wrote: >How do you >know who this crest was made for? >Carleen > You don't, although technically it could be said that the crest was made for the name you submit. Submit an unusual name, make one up as I mentioned in an earlier post or submit a series of letters that are no name at all. Somebody, possibly just some software will generate some giberish they'd be glad to sell you. Family crests are bad enough, but the coat of arms racket is even worse. Coats of arms were awarded to INDIVIDUALS, not Families. They were awarded, usually for acts of bravery. They were to be worn or displayed by the person they were awarded to, not the"family". Even if one could prove that an ancestor actually was awarded a coat of arms, it could properly be displayed as having been awarded to the particular ancestor; not the Family. Frank F. Frank F.

I obtained my family (Surname) family crest from Caesar's Palace in Las Vegas a few years ago and also from Halibuts in Ohio many years before that. I also obtained two long stem glasses from Sears and Roebuck with my Surname carved into the glass. I believe JC Penny's was also offering it at the same time. They all related that my family came from Amalfi and Nicola Setaro was given the title of Count and a yearly sum of gold in the 1300's by the king of Italy or the Two Sicily's at that time. Unfortunately he must have gambled away the title along with his money. For if I was a descendant from this noble person, I wonder why all my relatives as far back as the late 1700's were illiterate dirt farmers. I have stolen this persons family crest and have illegally used it for years to please my ego. Is that not why were seek a family crest to show others that we have descended from royalty and to please our ego. Mike Setaro