Hey Gang, Had a little time and did some looking into the history and charter of soc.genealogy.italian. See: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~socgen/Italian.htm#charter Now I realize it's 2002 and rules don't mean a lot to some of us, but on the other hand, for those of you for whom order, rules and conventions are the means by which you have been lifted into a civilized society, this site will be meaningful. Please observe the following quote found under,"FORBIDDEN SUBJECTS": What do you think Teddy, would a feller really need an aliase to print the truth? [commercials] "Posts of a commercial nature pertaining to genealogy, such as companies which provide coats of arms and heraldry certificates, or that make inquiries on genealogies for a fee are best posted to soc.genealogy.marketplace. All other commericial posts are best sent to their appropriate newsgroup, this newsgroup is NOT the place. " (emphasis theirs) Benny