In article <1145444060.742078.114510@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>, Tvllivs@gmail.com says... > Because of their likely point of origination in the southern Levant and > the fact that most Europeans with my J1 haplotype are Jews, it's very > possible that my ancestors were Jews as well. Well, there was (and still is) a quite large Jewish community in Rome, since Latin times. That could explain it. But, as I said, possibilities are almost infinte ;)

This sounds interesting. Could anyone tell me where such kind of blood analysis can be done? or what's its name? I'd like to try something similiar, here in Italy :) As for the question, Italy has always been a very mixed country. About Near-Est, just think of Spain. It ruled a large amount of Italy for a good deal of time, and Spain was once under Arab domain... ;) But this is just one of trillions of possible explanations ;)

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Based upon the tests from Family Tree DNA (www.FTDNA.com) my Tullio ancestors came from the southern part of the so-called Fertile Crescent, perhaps the Jordan River valley. It's true that DNA analysis cannot say when they came to Italy or where in Italy they originally settled. I have followed their paper trail back to the mid-18th Century and at that time they were living in the Papal States, in towns like Veroli, Castro dei Volsci and Vallecorsa, towns which were not part of the Kingdom of Naples. Because of their likely point of origination in the southern Levant and the fact that most Europeans with my J1 haplotype are Jews, it's very possible that my ancestors were Jews as well.

Hello, I’m making my family tree and I’m looking for information about: Antonino Miná, his parent’s names were Pasquale Miná and Caterina Narda(?). He married Rosario Filardi, her parent’s names were Pietro Filardi and Maria Garino(?) I’m trying to find out what part of Italy they were before they emigrated. Any information will be appreciated. Best regards, Emilia Miná emiancestry@yahoo.com

Unfortunately, DNA tests cannot tell how long ago your ancestors might have arrived in Italy from the Near East. There has been interaction between Italy and the eastern Mediterranean since ancient times. Cities like Naples (Neapolis), Taranto (Tarentum), and especially Rome would have had sizable numbers of merchants who settled there from all over the Mediterranean. Others would have been brought there as slaves as a result of the Roman military conquests in the eastern Mediterranean. In medieval times, there would have been eastern settlers coming to southern Italy during a new phase of colonization under the Byzantines. A number of Saracens also settled on the southern Italian mainland during the era of the Kingdom of Sicily. Much of the Frosinone Province was part of that Kingdom for centuries. So, while the southern Italian mainland might not have had such a mixture of different ethnic groups, there were many people who settled there from throughout the Mediterranean and beyond.

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Hi: I think that " Creve Tirennze" could be Greve in Chianti town in Firenze province... regards.. Dee ha scritto: > For 9 years I have been searching for my grandparents place of birth or anyone who might know of these names. > The 2 towns that show up on 2 different certificates are Sinlao and Creve Tirennze. I realize that they couldn't speak English when they arrived and this is whit was heard. Another of my problems is ,I know when they came to America but have no idea where they came into the USA. I have 4 different spellings of my grandfathers name and 2 different spellings of my grandmother. > The names for my grandfather are. Guiseppe Marino, Mereno, Demarino and DiMarino. came over from Italy in 1909 and was born in 1883.Father Francis, Frank, mother Rose > My Grandmother was Armedia Papi, Papis. She came in 1912 and was born in 1896,father Joseph, mother ,Anna. > The first records of them is their marriage lic. from New Butler Wisc. Feb.1913. > After that , I can trace them till they passed away in Calif. > My father was Clarence DeMarino and his sister, my aunt was Clemas DeMarino (Kay), both born in Wisc. > I did not know any of my family but I do know all have passed away that might have been able to help me. > IF anyone out there could shed a light on the region they came from, I would be eternally grateful. > I was told they came from north Italy, my grandmother spoke both French and Italian and my grandfather was in the Italian Military. > Thanks now for any information . > Dee DeMarino > > > God Bless, > Dee > > > --------------------------------- > New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big.

I have learned through DNA analysis that my remote ancestors came to Italy from the Near East. I am puzzled about how this might have come about. My less-remote ancestors, going back two hundred and fifty years, lived in Frosinone Province, in central Italy, south and east of Rome. Can anyone tell me how Near Easterners might have come to settle in Italy proper and not Sicily, which was multi-ethnic and multi-cultural? Mille grazie in anticipo, Alan Tullio

For 9 years I have been searching for my grandparents place of birth or anyone who might know of these names. The 2 towns that show up on 2 different certificates are Sinlao and Creve Tirennze. I realize that they couldn't speak English when they arrived and this is whit was heard. Another of my problems is ,I know when they came to America but have no idea where they came into the USA. I have 4 different spellings of my grandfathers name and 2 different spellings of my grandmother. The names for my grandfather are. Guiseppe Marino, Mereno, Demarino and DiMarino. came over from Italy in 1909 and was born in 1883.Father Francis, Frank, mother Rose My Grandmother was Armedia Papi, Papis. She came in 1912 and was born in 1896,father Joseph, mother ,Anna. The first records of them is their marriage lic. from New Butler Wisc. Feb.1913. After that , I can trace them till they passed away in Calif. My father was Clarence DeMarino and his sister, my aunt was Clemas DeMarino (Kay), both born in Wisc. I did not know any of my family but I do know all have passed away that might have been able to help me. IF anyone out there could shed a light on the region they came from, I would be eternally grateful. I was told they came from north Italy, my grandmother spoke both French and Italian and my grandfather was in the Italian Military. Thanks now for any information . Dee DeMarino God Bless, Dee --------------------------------- New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big.

Je recherche, mon arrière grand Père, Gualtero Gualterotti, adresse : 2 PLace du Nerli, à Florence Italie, en 1902, profession Avocat merci de m'aider

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Hi everybody. Briefly about me: I am Krzysiek SUPERA from Warsaw, Poland and I am trying to find my roots. I was told a few times that my surname SUPERA comes from Italy. Long time ago I got an email from French guy whose name is SUPERA and he wrote me that: "Do you know where exactly the name Supera comes from? I heard that some italian guy from NAPLES (NAPOLI) went for the Russian Campaign with Napoleon and married there afterwards. I've got no more clue..." Could you please help me with information where in Italy I can find genealogical data relating to 1812 time horizon or linkage to SUPERA family in Italy? Thank you Krzysiek (Chris) Supera

"Krzysiek Supera" <xdemon@poczta.onet.pl> wrote in message news:e1p3k0$a2p$1@news.onet.pl... > Hi everybody. > > Briefly about me: I am Krzysiek SUPERA from Warsaw, Poland and I am trying > to find my roots. I was told a few times that my surname SUPERA comes from > Italy. > > Long time ago I got an email from French guy whose name is SUPERA and he > wrote me that: > > "Do you know where exactly the name Supera comes from? > I heard that some italian guy from NAPLES (NAPOLI) went for the Russian > Campaign with > Napoleon and married there afterwards. I've got no more clue..." > > Could you please help me with information where in Italy I can find > genealogical data relating to 1812 time horizon or linkage to SUPERA family > in Italy? > > Thank you > > Krzysiek (Chris) Supera Italy phone directory at http://www.infobel.com/italy/ shows no Supera listings today. Ellis Island immigration records into the USA at http://www.ellisisland.org/ shows the following: Name of Passenger Residence Arrived Age on Arrival 1. Antonino Supera Palermo 1907 28 2. Bernard Supera Golat, France 1911 24 3. Rocco Supera Cleveland 1910 25 4. Santa Supera Marineo 1903 2 So two of these passengers came from Italy, and one from France. Marineo is about 25 km SSE of Palermo. France phone directory at http://www.infobel.com/teldir/result.asp?url=http://www.infobel.com/France shows 13 Supera listings. USA census data show a total of 12 Supera listings. Countries of birth include Germany, Poland, Russia, Canada and Austria. Germany phone directory at http://www.dastelefonbuch.de/ shows 4 Supera listings. Not a lot of help. Maybe some of the other Supera families could be of help. Good luck. Joe in Texas (whose grandfather came from Loetzen, East Prussia, now Gizycko, Poland)

Hello Missy Because we deal with these types of documents in our practice, we are able to read about 75% of the document. The important part is the note added by someone else using a darker pen after the recording of the birth "Nota L'imarginato è stato quale figlio leggitimato da Favilla ... e Mario .... Having read the certificate, we get the impression that it was the mother to officially declare and have the birth recorded and not the biological father. Later a note was added that he acknowledges to be the father. It appears that the birth was out of wedlock. Anthony Alioto ITALIAN LEGAL LANGUAGE SERVICES www.italianlaw.net San Francisco office 415-382-6171 "Melissa" wrote: > I am having a hard time translating a birth registration. > http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=faillaantonio4nu.jpg > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > Thank you, > > Melissa

I'm new to group too,Surnames I would be looking for are Oliveto,Gallo,and Bianculli. Thanks <graceolivo@comcast.net> wrote in message news:031720061227.7408.441AAB1A000DA41D00001CF0220642461301900704010A0C0E9D09@comcast.net... > Hi Mary, > > What are the surnames that you are researching? > > The Mormon Church [LDS] has microfilmed civil [and some church] records for all of Basilicata [where Vaglio is] and Bari Province. You can rent the films and do your research that way. Go to www.familysearch.org to both find your closest Family History Center and also what films are available. > > You may want to also go to www.yahoogroups.com and join the Basilicata and Bari groups. I belong to both, and I know there are people with ancestry in Vaglio there who might be able to help you. Do you know the town in Bari province that your ancestor was from? > > Grace Lancieri Olivo > Editor, Comunes of Italy Magazine > www.italianancestry.com/coi > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > From: "Mary & Bob Oberg" <2obergs@kewanee.com> > > Hi, I am new to this list serve > > I just found out that my ancestor was from > > Vaglio, Potenza, Italy. and then I have great grandmother who came from Bari, > > Italy. I am not sure how to proceed to go back and find further ancestors. > > > > > > > > Any ideas? > > > > thanks > > > > mary > > > > 2obergs@kewanee.com > > > > >

I am having a hard time translating a birth registration. http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=faillaantonio4nu.jpg Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Melissa