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    1. Re: recherche g�n�alogique !
    2. Fabio Parri
    3. On Wed, 7 Aug 2002 23:20:58 +0200, "blo jo" <petuledge@free.fr> wrote: >Comment puis-je me procurer l'acte de naissance de mon grand-père né à >Rotonda (Italie) dans la BASILICATE. Mon Grand-père s'appellait LIBONATI >Domenicantonio et son épouse MASTROLORENZO Caterina ? Check the archives at the nearest family cente. They've got microfilms with civil records for Rotonda. Here'ì the particulars: Topic Italy, Potenza, Rotonda - Civil registration Registri dello stato civile, 1809-1910 Rotonda (Potenza). Ufficio dello stato civile

    08/07/2002 07:37:13
    1. Pianella, Pescara: Male, born 1609
    2. Seeking any information AT ALL on a male born 1609 in Pianella who was given the Christian name of Leonardo. Have reason to believe his surname was NOT Della Piana, although his later history records it so. Have no other birth details, but would like anything you have, please. His wife was named Margareta. Thank you.

    08/07/2002 04:23:30
    1. Citizenship and medicine
    2. Agathacles
    3. Hi, I'm looking for someone who might know something about jure sanguinis citizens receiving medical care in Italy. My sister is concerned about her ability to get medical benefits while in Italy and she is a citizen of two years. Does anyone have experience or knowledge in this area? Please feel free to email as well as post, Thanking you all in advance, Philip J. Montalbano III

    08/07/2002 12:55:41
    1. Re: KELLERs 1900 Genova->Santos (Sao Paulo), Brasil
    2. There are D'orsa's in my grandfathers villiage in Piana degli Albanesi as well as in S. Cristina, that I know of, I believe they may have been Arberesh.. Joni Josaun@webtv.net http://www.picks.tv/texandy/charter.html

    08/07/2002 12:43:36
    1. KELLERs 1900 Genova->Santos (Sao Paulo), Brasil
    2. J. Berry
    3. Need help in finding out more about Austrian Jakob KELLER, his Hungarian wife, Julianna (nee D'ORSI?) KELLER, who lived and had children in Temesvaar, Hungary (now Timisoara, Romania). Their children's names are Anton, Nicolay, Anna, and my great grandmother, Susanne. The "Piemonte" left Genova in 3 Nov 1900 and arrived in Santos (Sao Paolo), Brasil, 27 Nov 1900. NOTE: Do not align the "Piemonte" that traveled Italy to South America at the turn of the century with the ship that was formerly called the "Minnedosa," was renamed "Piemonte" when it became a WWII troop carrier and then was scrapped in 1946, 1947 or so. I also would like to know from Hungarian speakers/knowledgeable listers about the name D'ORSI. I met a Hungarian couple just a couple of days ago and they said it could be a Hungarian name (my gr-gr-grandmother spoke Hungarian, German, and 4 other languages; my gr-grandmother spoke German, Hungarian and Portuguese - my mother's and grandmother's native language). Any help much to be appreciated. SNAMES - KELLER, HERRE PFOD(T)ENHAUER, FLORES, LOPES, D'ORSI

    08/07/2002 06:32:07
    1. advertisers using emails from your list
    2. hello, i logged on to rootsweb hoping to find this italian genealogy news group list and the message read that there is no such list. if i have a complaint about people advertising genealogy research who do i complain to. i know they got my email address from this list because that is they only way they could have gotten it. i have already notified aol and the comsumer products office in my state. i want to complain to this news group to make them aware of these people. any comments out there!!!

    08/07/2002 04:50:43
    1. Re: LOIACANO, LOCURTO, EFFLUSO
    2. Fabio Parri
    3. On Tue, 6 Aug 2002 15:26:42 -0400, "Donna Brooks" <Alw8zL8@bellsouth.net> wrote: >Thank you very much for the information. I did use a web site translation >program to translate the documents. They are borth and marriage certificates >but the problem I was having was the handwritten part. I have access to a >scanner so I can scan and email you. Do you charge any fees or would you be >doing me a great favor? >Donna Fees, not really, it's just a pleasure helping you. You know, here on the group we just try to help each other :) As soon as you could get a scan of the handwritten part, let us know on the group ;) Ciao Ciao for now, Fabio

    08/07/2002 03:17:42
    1. Cademartori
    2. Fabiana Cademartori
    3. http://66.221.136.107/it/cognomi/genera.html?cognome=CADEMARTORI&t=cognomi-prov http://66.221.136.107/it/cognomi/genera.html?cognome=CADEMARTORI In these 2 pages there is something in common the both pages they show the porcentage of Cademartori's living in Italy.

    08/07/2002 03:01:43
    1. Re: Murcano
    2. GeeTee
    3. The name Murcano in Greek is Murtzano. The names Murcano and Mauro have the name roots. The name can be found in Crete, a Venetian colony 1207-1669. Crete was "exporting" wine to Venice. My guess is that the Venetians brought Glassblowers from Murcano to produce the glass bottles ("balloons") for the wine. Just a guess. If there is no Murcano than I am wrong. Dr. George Tsambourakis 343 Major's Line Road Tooborac, Victoria 3522, Australia eachway@ozemail.com.au "Fabio Parri" <XXXparrif_ibbXXX@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:3d4fedb6.11713963@News.CIS.DFN.DE... > On Tue, 6 Aug 2002 23:40:24 +1000, "GeeTee" <eachway@ozemail.com.au> > wrote: > > >Originally, I found a references but I did not keep any records. > >Now, I find only one, when I use Google, and the word Murcano. > >It is a bit confusing because allegedly the residents of Murcano established > >the "village" of Murano. Murcano and Murano are very close. > >So, the question is: was there an "island" called Murcano? > >Does the family name "Murcano" exist in Italy today? > > If you mean > http://www.sjb.surrey.sch.uk/departments/gnvq/business/year12/unit2/glassima ges/glass.html > The Murcano here is just a mistype. Anyways I trust your findings, so > I guess there is a Murcano island near Murano. > Unfortunately, no Murano's are left in Italy, at least judging from > the phone directories and from the web search engines. > > Just out of curiosity, has the Murcano surname remained the same in > Greek or has it evolved to a Greeker form ? :)

    08/07/2002 02:14:06
    1. Re: LOIACANO, LOCURTO, EFFLUSO
    2. The hand written part is always the worst, somtimes you can find letters that you know for sure and compare it to others that you are in doubt about. Latin is even worse, but after a while you can get so you can figure them out enough to get the information you need. The marriagge certificates are neat, they often give you the profession of the groom as well as the professions of the father's of the couple and their addresses too. It is said to be the most accurate of the documents as all the information is given by the people themselves, unlike a birth or a death certificate. Joni Josaun@webtv.net http://www.picks.tv/texandy/charter.html

    08/07/2002 01:55:09
    1. Re: Murcano
    2. GeeTee
    3. Originally, I found a references but I did not keep any records. Now, I find only one, when I use Google, and the word Murcano. It is a bit confusing because allegedly the residents of Murcano established the "village" of Murano. Murcano and Murano are very close. So, the question is: was there an "island" called Murcano? Does the family name "Murcano" exist in Italy today?/ -- Dr. George Tsambourakis 343 Major's Line Road Tooborac, Victoria 3522, Australia eachway@ozemail.com.au "Fabio Parri" <XXXparrif_ibbXXX@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:3d4fa184.10890029@News.CIS.DFN.DE... > On Mon, 5 Aug 2002 08:15:05 +1000, "GeeTee" <eachway@ozemail.com.au> > wrote: > > >Any Murcano's left in Italy? There are a few in Greece. > >I think Murcano is a little Island in Venice where the > >Glass artists used to live before they were forced to migrate to Murano. > > Any source for this ? i couldn't find any mention to a place named > Murcano on the web.

    08/06/2002 05:40:24
    1. Re: Murcano
    2. Fabio Parri
    3. On Tue, 6 Aug 2002 23:40:24 +1000, "GeeTee" <eachway@ozemail.com.au> wrote: >Originally, I found a references but I did not keep any records. >Now, I find only one, when I use Google, and the word Murcano. >It is a bit confusing because allegedly the residents of Murcano established >the "village" of Murano. Murcano and Murano are very close. >So, the question is: was there an "island" called Murcano? >Does the family name "Murcano" exist in Italy today? If you mean http://www.sjb.surrey.sch.uk/departments/gnvq/business/year12/unit2/glassimages/glass.html The Murcano here is just a mistype. Anyways I trust your findings, so I guess there is a Murcano island near Murano. Unfortunately, no Murano's are left in Italy, at least judging from the phone directories and from the web search engines. Just out of curiosity, has the Murcano surname remained the same in Greek or has it evolved to a Greeker form ? :)

    08/06/2002 09:43:32
    1. Re: LOIACANO, LOCURTO, EFFLUSO
    2. Donna Brooks
    3. Thank you very much for the information. I did use a web site translation program to translate the documents. They are borth and marriage certificates but the problem I was having was the handwritten part. I have access to a scanner so I can scan and email you. Do you charge any fees or would you be doing me a great favor? Donna "Fabio Parri" <XXXparrif_ibbXXX@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:3d4f967d.8066849@News.CIS.DFN.DE... > On Sat, 3 Aug 2002 16:14:38 -0400, "Donna Brooks" > <Alw8zL8@bellsouth.net> wrote: > > >Looking mainly for information on the Loiacano family from Palermo and > >Corleone, Sicily. My grandfather is a 1st generation Italian American in our > >family. His parent scame from Sicily. I was able to find my great > >grandmother in the Ellis Island files but not great grandfather. I have a > >dcoument in Italian, now I just have to find someone to tell me what it > >means. > > If you can scan it, I'd be more than happy to translate it for you. > > About your relatives, the correct surname you should look for is > Loiacono, Lo Iacono, Lojacono, or Lo Jacono, but not Loiacano. This > surname doesn't exist in Italy, so it probably was a mispell. > > Also, in Corleone there are no Locurto's but there are 3 Lo Curto's. > > I could find a Lo Iacono, Luca on EllisIsland, who came to America in > March 15, 1907, arriving from Naples. > > I also think your great-grandmother name was mispelt, can't find any > Efflusso or Effluso here in Italy right now. Anyways, I on > ellisisland.org she was from Belmonte, wasn't she ? If she was, well, > you can check at a Family Center for Belmonte Mezzagno Registri dello > Stato Civile, which probably contains her birth certificate, as she > was 17 in 1907. You'd probably be able to find further info about her > parents and her grandparents, too, as those acts range from 1820 to > 1902. obviously, you should check any family name similiar to hers. > Check out which is the nearest family center for you at > http://www.familysearch.org > > Also, try searching for the surnames on the phone directory: > http://elenco.libero.it/elencotel/public/RicercaOmonimie.jsp > > Let me know if you do find anything. > > Ciao, > > Fabio

    08/06/2002 09:26:42
    1. Re: Brizio family name
    2. Fabio Parri
    3. On 05 Aug 2002 20:50:15 GMT, djibs1981@aol.com (Dj ibs1981) wrote: >Hi my name is Peter Brizio......im trying to discover the roots of my family >name....my great grandfather was an italian and married an english lady...we >believe the name came from lake garda area...any help would be appreciated and >i can be contacted at dj_ibs@hotmail.com Look here: http://elenco.libero.it/elencotel/engine/WebRicercaOmonimie It looks like Brizio is a family name very diffused in Piedmont, but there are some in Lumbardy and other places, too. Ciao, Fabio

    08/06/2002 04:21:47
    1. Re: Murcano
    2. Fabio Parri
    3. On Mon, 5 Aug 2002 08:15:05 +1000, "GeeTee" <eachway@ozemail.com.au> wrote: >Any Murcano's left in Italy? There are a few in Greece. >I think Murcano is a little Island in Venice where the >Glass artists used to live before they were forced to migrate to Murano. Any source for this ? i couldn't find any mention to a place named Murcano on the web.

    08/06/2002 04:18:35
    1. Re: LOIACANO, LOCURTO, EFFLUSO
    2. Fabio Parri
    3. On Sat, 3 Aug 2002 16:14:38 -0400, "Donna Brooks" <Alw8zL8@bellsouth.net> wrote: >Looking mainly for information on the Loiacano family from Palermo and >Corleone, Sicily. My grandfather is a 1st generation Italian American in our >family. His parent scame from Sicily. I was able to find my great >grandmother in the Ellis Island files but not great grandfather. I have a >dcoument in Italian, now I just have to find someone to tell me what it >means. If you can scan it, I'd be more than happy to translate it for you. About your relatives, the correct surname you should look for is Loiacono, Lo Iacono, Lojacono, or Lo Jacono, but not Loiacano. This surname doesn't exist in Italy, so it probably was a mispell. Also, in Corleone there are no Locurto's but there are 3 Lo Curto's. I could find a Lo Iacono, Luca on EllisIsland, who came to America in March 15, 1907, arriving from Naples. I also think your great-grandmother name was mispelt, can't find any Efflusso or Effluso here in Italy right now. Anyways, I on ellisisland.org she was from Belmonte, wasn't she ? If she was, well, you can check at a Family Center for Belmonte Mezzagno Registri dello Stato Civile, which probably contains her birth certificate, as she was 17 in 1907. You'd probably be able to find further info about her parents and her grandparents, too, as those acts range from 1820 to 1902. obviously, you should check any family name similiar to hers. Check out which is the nearest family center for you at http://www.familysearch.org Also, try searching for the surnames on the phone directory: http://elenco.libero.it/elencotel/public/RicercaOmonimie.jsp Let me know if you do find anything. Ciao, Fabio

    08/06/2002 04:04:31
    1. Re: Origine del cognome Mazzarello
    2. Fabio Parri
    3. On Sat, 3 Aug 2002 21:54:14 +0200, "Carlo" <pippo@pippo.it> wrote: >Qualcuno pur aiutarmi a trovare le origini del cognome Mazzarello, di >Mornese (AL) fraz. Mazzarelli? Penso tu conosca gi` questa pagina: http://www.mornese.pcn.net/1it.html Sul World Biographical Index ho trovato questi Mazzarello: Giovanni Mazzarello, 1501, poeta Maria Domenica Mazzarello, 1837, santa, suora, educatrice Augustino Mazzarello, 1850 - 1897, missionario salesiano Giovanni Mazzarello, 1884, medico chirurgo Dario Mazzarello, 1918, soldato dell'aeronautica

    08/06/2002 03:25:47
    1. Re: zuccardi and bringolo
    2. Fabio Parri
    3. On Sat, 3 Aug 2002 18:53:50 +0200, "Patrick BRANGOLO" <patrick.brangolo@club-internet.fr> wrote: >search some informations name bringolo in italy and on the family zuccardi >grace brangolo Hi Patrick I tried a quick search on Brangolo. It looks like it isn't an Italian surname. Looks more a French one.

    08/06/2002 03:14:10
    1. Re: zuccardi and bringolo
    2. Fabio Parri
    3. On Sat, 3 Aug 2002 18:53:50 +0200, "Patrick BRANGOLO" <patrick.brangolo@club-internet.fr> wrote: >search some informations name bringolo in italy and on the family zuccardi >grace brangolo So, about Zuccardi's, here's what I found: 1) There are 14 Zuccardi families on the phone directory. 2 in Emilia Romagna, 2 in Tuscany and 12 in Campania. Particularly, 11 out of 14 Zuccardi families live in the Province of Avellino Go here to look for their phone numbers: http://elenco.libero.it/elencotel/engine/WebRicercaOmonimie 2) Then, I also found this web site: http://www.familiazuccardi.com/ It belongs to a Zuccardi family who migrated to Argentina. They're in wines industry. I guess one of the members of this family has been in politics, too. Look here: http://www.frepaso.com.ar/diputados/zuccardi.htm Looks like they produce one of the best wines in Argentina, or so it seems :) There's an inteview to a Zuccardi from Argentina on the Washington Post: http://www.internationalspecialreports.com/theamericas/00/argentina/18.html 3) You can find a Victorio Zuccardi in this online Argentinian genealogy: http://www.418.com.ar/display.asp?ID=I40647 4) The Zuccardi's in Lioni, Avellino province, Italy, work too in the wines and typical local product field. Look here: http://www.calitrifiere.it/aziende/zuccardi-market/zuccardi.htm 5) In the city of the Campagnola Emilia, province of Reggio Emilia, in the Emilia Romagna region, Italy, there's a street called Via Zuccardi 6) There are amateur marathon runners with the Zuccardi surname. You can find pictures here: http://www.runtheplanet.com/pages/italy/drsitaly/dphoto01.php 7) An article about some Zuccardi on a newspaper: http://www.losandes.com.ar/2001/0312/nota16531_1.htm 8) A Francesco Zuccardi, in 1824 published in Rome a book by B. Baldi. The name of the book was: "Via e fatti di Federigo di Montefeltro duca di Urbino" 9) There's an Alan Zuccardi in the US, in a high school skiing team: http://www.skinorthernmaine.com/CA%20Panthers.htm 10) There's a Casa Zuccardi in Correggio, Reggio Emilia province, Emilia Romagna region. http://www.rcs.re.it/correggio/museo/capitoli/s3i.htm 11) On this Polish site, there's a Zuccardi mentioned: http://webart.omikron.com.pl/PAINT/AUTHORS/FEUE_MA/index.htm I think it could probably be Quirino Zuccardi, who lived during the 1500's, as I can see here: http://www.rcs.re.it/correggio/museo/capitoli/c2.htm 12) Zuccardi mentioned on the World Biographical Index: Ubertino Zuccardi, Doctor in canonic and civil rights Florido Zuccardi, Music Composer, 1591 Francesco Zuccardi, 1631. Podestà (Governor) and Poet in Modena 13) In Italy there's also a noble family called Zuccardi Merli, from Emilia Romagna. They're mentioned in this book: Crivelli Visconti, Vittorio Urbano: Le casate nobili d’Italia. Roma 1955. 14) On familysearch.org I found an Angelo Zuccardi who marries Rosa Stolfa in Ascoli Satriano, Foggia province, Italy, on May 25th 1828 I also found a Gerrard Zuccardi who died in New York on May 3rd 1990. Also, an Elvera (Vera) Zuccardi, born on May 21st 1907 and married to a George Camillucci, died on June 13rd 1982, in Bolton, MA 15) Found reference about a Lucio Zuccardi from Correggio, Reggio Emilia province, Emilia Romagna region who, in the 1600s. One can read much about him in here (ancient Italian, if you need a translation, just let me know) http://gallica.bnf.fr/scripts/page.exe?O=0051263&E=00000398 http://gallica.bnf.fr/scripts/page.exe?O=0051263&E=00000399 16) In San Marino di Carpi, Modena Province, Emilia Romagna region, there's an oratory named Oratorio di San Lorenzo. It was under the authority of a villa Federici-Zuccardi. http://www.associazioni.comune.carpi.mo.it/sbiagio/SanLorenzo.htm 17) Found a mention about a Casino/Casina Palombi (where casino means something like a little country house which noble families used as a shooting lodge) in two pages: http://digilander.libero.it/acomar/reati.htm http://www.elkarkom.com/emilia/re/riosaliceto/5.htm 18) There's probably a book made in 1700s with the history of important families from Correggio. Zuccardi's are in it: http://matilde.reggionet.it/correggio/museo/capitoli/c1.htm 19) Found the email of about 60 Zuccardis, on search engine. They're mostly from Argentina, but from other countries, too, like Italy, US, Spain, Colombia 20) Found an Antonio Zuccardi and a Giuseppe Zuccardo in Westchester County Index to Declarations of Intention, 1808-1927 and in Westchester County Naturalization Records Index, 1808-1927 http://www.co.westchester.ny.us/wcarchives/indexes/dec_t_z.html http://www.co.westchester.ny.us/wcarchives/indexes/nat_w.html Hope there's something you may find useful :) Ciao, Fabio

    08/06/2002 03:05:33
    1. Re: zuccardi and bringolo
    2. Fabio Parri
    3. On Sat, 3 Aug 2002 18:53:50 +0200, "Patrick BRANGOLO" <patrick.brangolo@club-internet.fr> wrote: >search some informations name bringolo in italy and on the family zuccardi >grace brangolo I couldn't find any Bringolo or Brangolo on the phone directory, whereas I found some info about Zuccardi. I'll let you know as soon as I finish reading it :) Ciao Fabio

    08/05/2002 07:11:54