I was looking thru the LDS/FHC on line library catalog for Barge and Ostana and didn't see any vital records listed. Are the vital records listed with another commune? Does anyone know what parish would have been in existance circa 1770 and what would the address be? I'm trying to locate a baptism for an ancestor in this time frame. Thanks, -- Dick

I am trying to obtain a possible marriage pre 1792 in Pinerolo and the only microfilm I can find is notarial records. Do these notarial records list vital records? -- Dick

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Fabio Parri <XXXparrif_ibbXXX@yahoo.com> skrev i news:3d69bac5.77830464@News.CIS.DFN.DE Hello! Thank you so much for answering my query :-) | Have you tried asking the San Biagio Saracinisco ? They should have | information for your ancestors. Yes, I went to the church office in Commune di San Biagio Saracinisco in July, and I had a look in the priest's records (church records). That was where I found out that Biagio Jaconelli's parents were Antonio Iaconelli and Anna Tartaglia. Unfortunately, they didn't have more records. | You should also check at the nearest Family History Center for San | Biagio Saracinisco's microfilms. They have documents from 1811 to | 1865, so you'll probably be able to find information on Biagio's | parents and probably earlier ancestors, too. Oh yes, records from 1811 to 1865 would be perfect! Where do I find a Family History Center? | Also, the State Archive (Archivio di Stato) in Caserta has the | original documents which were used to create the Family History Center | films. I found two emails for the State Archive: | | asce@archivi.beniculturali.it | and | 027@rpv.beniculturali.it | | You should write and ask them more information about those names, they | can probably help you, too. It'd be better if you write in Italian. If | you need any help with it, I'll translate your request in Italian, | just let me know :) Remember to be very specific, doing so you hinghen | your probability of them finding what you're loking for ;) Thank you so much, Fabio. Unfortunately I don't have any more information other than the parent's name and Biagio Jaconelli's date of birth- and death. Would it difficult for them to check for possible Antonio Jaconelli/Iaconelli? Antonio Iaconelli, as well as Biagio Iaconelli, has always been a very common name in San Biagio Saracinisco. But, of course, I would like to give it a try anyway. May I ask you to write a few sentences to ask the Archivio di Stato for help? Maria in Norway

"Peggy Belcher" <pbelcher@cox-internet.com> skrev i news:004c01c24c97$ced2f660$0b0be942@coxinternet.com Thank you so much, Peggy, for answering me! | Malancio(?), Bro-----? Head, Age 46 | , Madaline Wife, Age 32 | Iaconelli, Antonio Father-in-Law, | Age 67 | Antoinetta Mother-in-Law, | Age 56 I don't think this is the correct Antonio. Antonio Iaconelli was a fairly common name in San Biagio Saracinisco, which, of course, makes it harder to find the right one. However, Antonio's wife or the mother of his child, was Anna Tartaglia. (Allthough Antonietta also is a common name in our family.) | Also from www.ancestry.com Message Boards: | John (Jhncas@aol.com) posted on 17 April 2000 that his great-great grandmother was Anna Domenica Tartaglia from Santa Croce di Magliano, Molise, Italy. | | Teresa Tartaglia (DECEPEDA@aol.com) posted on 8 October 2000 that she was looking for information on the Tartaglia family from Colliano, Salerno, Naples, Italy. | John's email didn't work, but Teresa's did. I hope she will answer me :-) I do think that John's great great grandmother could be the same as mine. Biagio's oldest child was Domenica Iaconelli. She could have been named after her grandmother :-) Thank you so much for helping me! Maria in Norway

who are you, where are you located? "Genealogical searches" <pignolata@interfree.it> wrote in message news:1D9b9.22766$ub2.372881@news1.tin.it... > Genealogical searches of your anchestors,family,land register office > searches' in all Italy. > If you are interested please contact me. > > > >

As far as I know Filoteo had 3 sons ,he was born around 1870 he was married to Marie Di ilio the sons names where Giuseppi Tomaso and Anthony Giuseppi was my grandfather he had 2 children Joseph and Gloria Iezzi . My name is Nick Iezzi , I can contacted at nriezzi@poormail.com or nriezzi@aol.com any help would be greatly appreciated thanks , P.S. they were from Torino di Sangro, Chieti, Italy Nick Iezzi 5410 bryant St Pittsburgh Pa 15206 U.S.A.

Genealogical searches of your anchestors,family,land register office searches' in all Italy. If you are interested please contact me.

You must go through the Family History Library. They are world wide and have locations in every state. Go to your local FHL they are connected to most Mormon Church's. They have volunteers to help you get started. It is not necessary to be a member to use there service. Ciao Steve Pascale wrote: > I am looking for the D'Asti ancestors all in Galluccio. > How can I get to the birth certificates and death certificates. > > Thanks > > Pascale

On 28 Aug 2002 04:31:02 -0700, pfasolus@yahoo.com (Peter Fasol) wrote: >Although my family originates from Belgium, I have learned via >telephone books that the name Fasol is also relatively frequent in >the Veneto region and in the Verona region. Since the name Fasol does >not 'sound' like an originally Dutch name, it is possible that my >ancestors emigrated from Italy. The geographical distance however >makes it impossible to come and do research in Italy. >Can anyone point me to sources available on the Internet that I can >access, or does anyone know something on the origins of the Fasol >family in Italy? >The family seems to stem from Verona, from Venice and/or from the >village of Rivai, near Belluno. >All help is very welcome, HI Peter, Fasol seems to be a family name from Veneto, yes. I don't know about the situation in Belgium and the Netherlands, but have you tried looking for information in notarial archives. They should start about in 1400, giving you at least another 200 researchable years. A problem could be the fact that surnames weren't always written earlier than 1500s. I found some historic Fasol in Austria as well, see: Name: Fasol, Karl Job: Bookprinter Year(s): 1868;1881 Source: Heichen, Taschen-Lexikon der hervorragenden Buchdrucker und Buchhändler seit Gutenberg bis auf die Gegenwart. Ein Handbüchlein für Geschichte und Geographie der Buchdruckerkunst in alphabetischer Ordnung, Leipzig, 1884 Name: Fasol, Peter Job: Architect Years: 1639;1657 Source: Thieme/Becker, Allgemeines Lexikon der Bildenden Künstler. Von der Antike bis zur Gegenwart. Leipzig, 1907-1950 Ciao, Fabio

Dear Readers, I've transcribed the Catasti Onciari for my town of Colledimacine (Abruzzo) for 1771. I read Italian well, but I have a few questions about it's content: 1. For the men who are listed, I saw a few entries where their sons were taxed at half the regular amount, and others who were taxed at full amount. At what age are they elegible to be taxed? 2. While most men's occupation was "bracciale", which i guess means "share-cropper" or similar, I saw several men whose occupation was (as far as I could read the handwriting) "desegrito". Any clue what that could mean? 3. When two people have the same first name and the same last name, the second entry contains two last names. I speculate that it's the mother's maiden name, so as to differentiate these two individuals on paper. Can anyone confirm this? 4. How often were Catasti Onciari taken? I beleive the last one for my town was in 1805, before Napoleon took over. Thank you for your responses. Sincerely, Anthony Falcone falcone@juno.com

On Tue, 27 Aug 2002 19:11:08 -0400, Pascale <rmac@internet.look.ca> wrote: >I did that today, since there were only 6 in the phone book of that town. >I wrote the letters in french and english, hopefully I will get responses. If you want to, I can translate the text in Italian for you :) Ciao, Fabio

On Tue, 27 Aug 2002 19:03:43 -0400, Pascale <rmac@internet.look.ca> wrote: >I am looking for the D'Asti ancestors all in Galluccio. >How can I get to the birth certificates and death certificates. When were they born and did live ? There are various options: A) The Mormon Church Family History Centers can get you the microfilms of the Stato Civile acts of the comune of Galluccio. You can get them through the nearest Family history Center. Look for it on http://www.familysearch.org Here's what's inside the films: Title Registri dello stato civile, 1809 to 1899 Authors Galluccio (Caserta). Ufficio dello stato civile (Main Author) Notes Microfilm dei registri originali nell'Archivio di Stato, Caserta, e nell'Archivio di Stato, Frosinone. Include indici annuali. Births, marriages, deaths, miscellaneous documents, marriage documents. Subjects Italy, Caserta, Galluccio - Civil registration Format Manuscript (On Film) Language Italian Publication Salt Lake City : Filmati dalla Genealogical Society of Utah, 1979-1993 Physical in 25 bobine di microfilm ; 35 mm. Film Notes Note - Location [Film] Nati 1809-1819 - VAULT INTL Film [ 1169253 Item 4 ] Nati 1820-1836 - VAULT INTL Film [ 1170770 ] Nati 1837-1851 - VAULT INTL Film [ 1170771 ] Nati 1852-1865 - VAULT INTL Film [ 1170772 Item 1 ] Matrimoni 1809-1812 - VAULT INTL Film [ 1173779 Item 16 ] Matrimoni 1813-1861 - VAULT INTL Film [ 1173780 ] Matrimoni 1862-1865 - FHL INTL Film [ 1173781 Items 1-4 ] Morti 1809-ag. 1834 - VAULT INTL Film [ 1178907 Items 13-16 ] Morti ag. 1834-1862 - VAULT INTL Film [ 1178908 ] Morti 1863-1865 - VAULT INTL Film [ 1178909 Items 1-3 ] Processetti 1814-1819 - VAULT INTL Film [ 1442280 Item 3 ] Processetti 1814-1829 - VAULT INTL Film [ 1442281 ] Processetti 1825-1839 - VAULT INTL Film [ 1442282 ] Processetti 1837-1852 - VAULT INTL Film [ 1442283 ] Processetti 1850-1858 - VAULT INTL Film [ 1442284 ] Processetti 1856-1862 - VAULT INTL Film [ 1442285 ] Processetti 1859-1865 - VAULT INTL Film [ 1442286 Items 1-2 ] Diversi 1824-1864 - VAULT INTL Film [ 1037936 Items 9-16 ] Nati 1866-1872, 1874-1877 - VAULT INTL Film [ 1882504 Item 4 ] Nati 1878-1893 - VAULT INTL Film [ 1882505 ] Nati 1894-1899 - VAULT INTL Film [ 1882506 Item 1 ] Matrimoni 1866-1873 - FHL INTL Film [ 1883346 Item 5 ] Matrimoni 1874-1899 - VAULT INTL Film [ 1883347 Items 1-3 ] Morti 1866-1885, 1887-1896 - VAULT INTL Film [ 1883842 Items 2-3 ] Morti 1897-1899 - VAULT INTL Film [ 1883843 Item 1 ] B) You can ask the Archivio di Stato of Caserta, the province where the comune of Galluccio is, to send you an extract of the information regarding the people you're researching. Be the most specific as possible (don't know if this good grammar, sorry for my English...) about names and dates. The Archivio di Stato in Caserta has the more or less the same documents you can find at Family History Centers. They have: Atti dello stato civile from 1809 to 1865 which more or less contain the same things as above. Their email is: asce@archivi.beniculturali.it or 027@rpv.beniculturali.it C) You may also want to check wether the priests at Galluccio's local churches may do a search for you in their baptisms, confirmations, marriages and deaths registers. Unfortunately I don't know any of the addresses for these churches :( D) This is the list of all the D'Asti still living in Galluccio, with addresses and phone numbers. Maybe someone still remembers your ancestors or heard about them: 1. D'ASTI ENRICO 2, V. GRANDE 81045 GALLUCCIO CE Tel. 0823925561 2. D'ASTI GIOVANNI 2, V. SARACINI 81045 GALLUCCIO CE Tel. 0823925260 3. D'ASTI GIUSEPPE 1, V. SALVO D'ACQUISTO 81045 GALLUCCIO CE Tel. 0823925014 4. D'ASTI PASQUALE 3, V. GRANDE - CALABRITTO 81045 GALLUCCIO CE Tel. 0823925896 5. D'ASTI VITTORIO 12, V. CAMINO - CALABRITTO 81045 GALLUCCIO CE Tel. 0823925911 6. D'ASTI MICHELE 25, V. GRANDI 81045 GALLUCCIO CALABRITTO CE Tel. 0823925514 Something else I found looking on the net: - In the years among 1860 and 1880 there was a brigand named Federico D'Asti. He was from Galluccio. According to this page (http://web.infinito.it/utenti/s/s.martino.sannita/Brigantaggio/Briganti/Guerra.htm)) he was killed by the army on April 14, 1868 on Monte Pizzuto. You can see his picture here: http://web.infinito.it/utenti/s/s.martino.sannita/Brigantaggio/Briganti/D'Asti.JPG Hope I could be of any help, Fabio

Thank you Fabio, But I already mailed the letters yesterday, although on Friday, my aunt and I will have someone call those numbers I found, and see if maybe it brings something. Pascale

Thnak you so very much for all the information, I will loon into it. Pascale

Although my family originates from Belgium, I have learned via telephone books that the name Fasol is also relatively frequent in the Veneto region and in the Verona region. Since the name Fasol does not 'sound' like an originally Dutch name, it is possible that my ancestors emigrated from Italy. The geographical distance however makes it impossible to come and do research in Italy. Can anyone point me to sources available on the Internet that I can access, or does anyone know something on the origins of the Fasol family in Italy? The family seems to stem from Verona, from Venice and/or from the village of Rivai, near Belluno. All help is very welcome, thanks, Peter Fasol PS: everything I know is on www.fasol.nl

Have you tried <familysearch.org>? Pat Pascale wrote: > I am looking for the D'Asti ancestors all in Galluccio. > How can I get to the birth certificates and death certificates. > > Thanks > > Pascale

Giorgio Jannon, auteur de plusieurs ouvrages sur l'émigration de la vallée de Suse dans le monde, spécialiste de l'histoire locale est à Paris. N'hésitez pas à le rencontrer: le mercred 28 aout de 14h à 20h à Ancêtres Italiens / Bibliothèque ou lui telephoner durant ces horaires au 0140410723 ou un autre jour sur RDV le joindre le soir 0139594718 Ancêtres Italiens / Bibliothèque 3 rue de Turbigo 75001 Paris (dans la cour à droite, c/o Bibliothèque généalogique) Métro Etienne Marcel ou RER Chatelet-Les Halles La vallée de Suse de Bardonecchia à Condove dont les communes sont: Almese, Avigliana, Beaulard, Borgone, Bruzolo, Bussoleno, Caprie, Cesana Torinese, Chianocco, Chiusa di San Michele, Exilles, Meana, Novalesa, Rubiana, Sant'Antonino di Susa, Sauze d'Oulx, Sauze di Cesana, Venaus, Villar Dora, Villar Focchiardo.

Yes I did, no luck

I did that today, since there were only 6 in the phone book of that town. I wrote the letters in french and english, hopefully I will get responses. Pascale