Thanks for that note Benny. Tells me a lot about you as a person. As a matter of fact your response has given me food for thought. Will continue doing all I can that will benefit researchers. There are now 249 Passenger Lists to the Port of New Orleans, available on CD. Everyone may feel free to contact me with any lists you all may be looking for. Will do my best to response with some helpful info, and replies by a live person . Thanks, S The same records you've been squinting at for 9 years have been > available for anyone who wanted to spend the time searching out their > ancestor's records. I've never spent a nickel for anything the "Big > Guys" (or any little guys) had for sale, and never will. It's the hunt > that does it for me. The only money I've ever spent was for > documentation or film rental. > > There's no consensus, just me saying what I believe. Please let your > conscience be your guide. > > >Thanks for your input, no hard feelings on my part. I get Spam TOO!! > > Thank you for your polite response. I'm just an old guy who loves > genealogy, calls a spade a spade and spam spam. > > > Benny Rab >

Is there a list administrator in the house? While I don't subscribe to a heavily monitored list, I do think it is in poor taste to 'advertise genealogical services' on this list or any other list. Some rootsweb lists expand on Administrivia to include certian guidelines. Advertising Professional Services might be a guideline to post. Having said all of this, I also don't think such advertisers should be 'flamed' on list. Just my humble opinion. Vicky

On Sun, 08 Sep 2002 20:26:51 GMT, "S.Barbara" <smbarr@eatel.net> wrote: > I would love to have time for my own ancestor searches. With all due respect, we humans do pretty much share some common traits. One is that we generally do what makes us feel good. >There wasn't any Italians to New Orleans when I started this 9 years ago, >and still isn't many. My work was posted on the web, FREE. Anyone back there >can tell you so. Until the BIG GUYS came in and started grabbing everything >for their own benefit and charging YOU for the free lists, that is when I >started to ask for small return for some of the cost. The same records you've been squinting at for 9 years have been available for anyone who wanted to spend the time searching out their ancestor's records. I've never spent a nickel for anything the "Big Guys" (or any little guys) had for sale, and never will. It's the hunt that does it for me. The only money I've ever spent was for documentation or film rental. >If the consensus on this list is that I not return here for updates, then >that's ok with me. No hard feelings. I'll stop here, and shut the lists >down. Ancestry and FTM would love to hear from you. There's no consensus, just me saying what I believe. Please let your conscience be your guide. >Thanks for your input, no hard feelings on my part. I get Spam TOO!! Thank you for your polite response. I'm just an old guy who loves genealogy, calls a spade a spade and spam spam. Benny Rab

Hi bob Yes I would like to see if we have some common names. who knows what we will find "Bob M." <Bob@nospam.com> wrote in message news:V_Gd9.1415$I4.257674@news.iquest.net... > To iamspockiam: > > I live in Cincinnati, also. Are you researching Italian ancestry ? Maybe we > have some common surnames. > > -- > > Bob M. > > > > "iamspockiam" <fuscaldoitaly@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:uncqh0nnv2j44@corp.supernews.com... > > Cinti is probably the abr for Cincinnati, Ohio in the USA > > I live in Cincinnati maybe I can help you > > "viola" <ls001927TOGLI@mail.stud.uniroma2.it> wrote in message > > news:A8hx8.1390$W9.22949@twister2.libero.it... > > > SEARCHING FOR NAME "CINTI" IN THE WORLD > > > > > > > > > > > >

Thanks J. Lists now total 249!! <jmudge@bellsouth.net> wrote in message news:3D7B87FA.87BAC665@bellsouth.net... > Sorry Benny, > > This is not spam. That CD contains ships manifests for 147 ships > arriving at the Port of New Orleans from 1861 and 1912. I have found > manifests for my maternal grandparents, my paternal grandmother, my > father and his two siblings all of whom came to the US through New > Orleans on this CD. To me that was worth the price I paid for the CD. > > I have no connection or interest with SBarbara. Her web site is very > good. > > Ciao, > > Josephine Montana Mudge > > Benny wrote: > > > > On Sat, 07 Sep 2002 23:38:06 GMT, "S.Barbara" <smbarr@eatel.net> > > wrote: > > > > >http://www.eatel.net/~smbarr/images.htm > > >www.eatel.net/~smbarr/ > > >Don't miss this port!!! > > >Italian, French, English, German, passengers > > >Italian Vital Records > > > > It's Spam, friends, and does not belong on this newsgroup!!! What > > these folks really want is for you to spend $38.00 for their CD. You'd > > think they could at least be honest and not waste everyone's time. > > Shame. > > > > Benny Rab > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Am sorry to see some are disturbed by my posts. After 9 years and many thousands of dollars in copies and microfilm , postage, not to mention the thousands of hours glaring at the film; my intention is not one to make myself independently wealthy. If any of you think that is so, please take up the banner here, and run with it. I would love to have time for my own ancestor searches. There wasn't any Italians to New Orleans when I started this 9 years ago, and still isn't many. My work was posted on the web, FREE. Anyone back there can tell you so. Until the BIG GUYS came in and started grabbing everything for their own benefit and charging YOU for the free lists, that is when I started to ask for small return for some of the cost. If the consensus on this list is that I not return here for updates, then that's ok with me. No hard feelings. I'll stop here, and shut the lists down. Ancestry and FTM would love to hear from you. Thanks for your input, no hard feelings on my part. I get Spam TOO!! -- www.eatel.net/~smbarr/ Don't miss this port!!! Italian passengers Italian Vital Records on CD available

Bonsoir, C'est aujourd'hui seulement que je reprends votre mail. En effet, la lettre officielle ne suffit pas à obtenir les actes "integrales". Je l'ai testé plusieurs fois, mais cela dépends uniquement du bon vouloir de la personne qui s'en occupe en mairie, ou selon les règles propres de la mairie elle-même. La seule solution qui m'a été donnée est de trouver une bonne âme sur place qui se fera votre relais. Pour ma part je n'en ai toujours pas trouvé depuis plusieurs mois. Amicalement, Thierry Achaintre Membre Entraide France Genweb 38 TAchaintre@aol.com > ---------- Initial message ----------- > > From : "audrey" <audrey.salami@wanadoo.fr> > To : GEN-ITALIAN-L@rootsweb.com > Cc : > Date : Tue, 20 Aug 2002 21:15:35 -0000 > Subject : Re: SOS ! > > Bonsoir ! > > On m'a donné un autre conseil aujourd'hui ! Je vous le transmets donc, sans > vous garantir de succès !! > Tout d'abord, étant au mois d'aout, il est probable que les personnes > s'occupant de ces documents soient en vacances. Ensuite, il parait que le > délai de réponse d'un courrier est de 2 à 3 mois ... ce qui n'est guère > encourageant ! > > Toutefois, on m'a transmis un mail avec tous les éléments à indiquer pour > obtenir un acte de naissance ou autre. Je vous transmets ce mail à > <fgraglia@club-internet.fr>, cela pourra peut-être vous aider. Et je suis > preneuse si, de votre côté, vous avez d'autres pistes ! > > Merci > > Audrey > > > "GRAGLIA francis" <fgraglia@club-internet.fr> a écrit dans le message de > news: 3d61729e$0$11807$7a628cd7@news.club- internet.fr... > > > > "audrey" <audrey.salami@wanadoo.fr> a écrit dans le message de news: > > ajrmtf$mn5$1@wanadoo.fr... > > > Bonjour, > > > > > > je cherche désespérément à obtenir un "atto integrale di nascita" auprès > > de > > > la commune de Crémone. J'ai envoyé plusieurs mails à plusieurs adresses, > > > mais je n'ai à ce jour aucune réponse. Je désespère d'avancer dans mes > > > recherches ! Quelqu'un ayant effectué la même demande pourrait-il > m'aider > > ? > > > > > > Merci beaucoup > > > > > > Audrey > > > > > Bonsoir, > > Je suis également bloquée vers l'Italie, aucune réponse, je pensais que > mon > > italien était en cause (ce qui n'a rien d'étonnant!) mais des internautes > > sympa (ils se reconnaîtront) m'ont fait des lettres types. Pas plus de > > succès!!! > > Si quelqu'un a une solution, je suis également preneuse.(en désespoir de > > cause j'ai même pensé à adhérer dans une association payante, je vais > > peut-être finir par le faire). > > Cordialement > > Hélène GRAGLIA > > > > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp? targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Découvrez sur Respublica et sur les sites du Groupe Tiscali France une barre de navigation pour accéder en 1 clic aux meilleurs contenus et services du Web. http://www.tiscali.fr/minisite/

On Sun, 8 Sep 2002 17:25:17 +0000 (UTC), jmudge@bellsouth.net wrote: >Sorry Benny, > >This is not spam. That CD contains ships manifests for 147 ships >arriving at the Port of New Orleans from 1861 and 1912. I have found >manifests for my maternal grandparents, my paternal grandmother, my >father and his two siblings all of whom came to the US through New >Orleans on this CD. To me that was worth the price I paid for the CD. > >I have no connection or interest with SBarbara. Her web site is very >good. > >Ciao, > >Josephine Montana Mudge Unsolicited advertising via email or on a news group like soc.genealogy.italian is spam. The question as to if the product being advertised is legitimate or not has absolutely nothing to do with the definition of spam. Lord knows we get enough of this junk mail via email, do we now have to be bothered with it here as well? I read this newsgroup to see what others are doing in their search for ancestors and occasionally offer a little help to someone else if I'm able. Is it too much to ask that that experience be add free? We have several self proclaimed genealogists pestering us with their wares, now somebody else got a CD burner and has gone into the data base business. It matters not how many manifests you've found on these CDs. I've located information on many, many ancestors back 8 and 9 generations. Does that mean that I can write a book on my sources and advertise it here? I don't think so. Benny

And you are rude. Sharon You are a crook!!! Benny Rab ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

On 08 Sep 2002 17:21:05 GMT, jojhenson@aol.com (Jo Ann) wrote: >Shirley has been a long time contributor to this forum, GIVING away her >research for years. >(Including the ships' lists she posted today, which as always are very helpful, >thanks Shirley!) >I have no problem with her compiling her research onto a CD. I can't imagine >she'll get rich with these things, but instead get a fair return for her hard >work. I intend to purchase one for myself, and another to send to a friend in >Sicily who is looking for relatives here. >Jo Ann "GIVING" away at $38.00 a pop? I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. Not too many years ago such a blatant sales pitch would have been met by a chorus of boos here. Now, political correctness (heaven forbid one human being correct another for breaking the rules) has allowed crass commercialism to creep into newsgroups, the one place people were spared this sort of thing. Everybody with a computer is a genealogist or has some data base or another for sale; and by golly we're going to get to hear about every one of them. Benny Rab

Thank you, thank you for the work you have done on Italian research. I am looking forward to buying your CD on Germans, too. Sharon -----Original Message----- From: Jo Ann [mailto:jojhenson@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2002 12:21 PM To: GEN-ITALIAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: New passenger list on line >From: benny@rbnwcz.net (Benny) >On Sat, 07 Sep 2002 23:38:06 GMT, "S.Barbara" <smbarr@eatel.net> >wrote: > >>http://www.eatel.net/~smbarr/images.htm >>www.eatel.net/~smbarr/ >>Don't miss this port!!! >>Italian, French, English, German, passengers >>Italian Vital Records > > >It's Spam, friends, and does not belong on this newsgroup!!! What >these folks really want is for you to spend $38.00 for their CD. You'd >think they could at least be honest and not waste everyone's time. >Shame. > >Benny Rab > Shirley has been a long time contributor to this forum, GIVING away her research for years. (Including the ships' lists she posted today, which as always are very helpful, thanks Shirley!) I have no problem with her compiling her research onto a CD. I can't imagine she'll get rich with these things, but instead get a fair return for her hard work. I intend to purchase one for myself, and another to send to a friend in Sicily who is looking for relatives here. Jo Ann ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

This lady's work, research and CD will save me YEARS of research and untold MONEY. THANK YOU! Please keep up the good work and keep those CD's rolling. I am more than happy to pay you for them and see you list them here. That is more helpful to genealogy and this list than recipes (not that I am against recipes...) Sharon -----Original Message----- From: Benny [mailto:benny@rbnwcz.net] Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2002 1:10 PM To: GEN-ITALIAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: New passenger list on line On 08 Sep 2002 17:21:05 GMT, jojhenson@aol.com (Jo Ann) wrote: >Shirley has been a long time contributor to this forum, GIVING away her >research for years. >(Including the ships' lists she posted today, which as always are very helpful, >thanks Shirley!) >I have no problem with her compiling her research onto a CD. I can't imagine >she'll get rich with these things, but instead get a fair return for her hard >work. I intend to purchase one for myself, and another to send to a friend in >Sicily who is looking for relatives here. >Jo Ann "GIVING" away at $38.00 a pop? I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. Not too many years ago such a blatant sales pitch would have been met by a chorus of boos here. Now, political correctness (heaven forbid one human being correct another for breaking the rules) has allowed crass commercialism to creep into newsgroups, the one place people were spared this sort of thing. Everybody with a computer is a genealogist or has some data base or another for sale; and by golly we're going to get to hear about every one of them. Benny Rab ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

>From: benny@rbnwcz.net (Benny) >On Sat, 07 Sep 2002 23:38:06 GMT, "S.Barbara" <smbarr@eatel.net> >wrote: > >>http://www.eatel.net/~smbarr/images.htm >>www.eatel.net/~smbarr/ >>Don't miss this port!!! >>Italian, French, English, German, passengers >>Italian Vital Records > > >It's Spam, friends, and does not belong on this newsgroup!!! What >these folks really want is for you to spend $38.00 for their CD. You'd >think they could at least be honest and not waste everyone's time. >Shame. > >Benny Rab > Shirley has been a long time contributor to this forum, GIVING away her research for years. (Including the ships' lists she posted today, which as always are very helpful, thanks Shirley!) I have no problem with her compiling her research onto a CD. I can't imagine she'll get rich with these things, but instead get a fair return for her hard work. I intend to purchase one for myself, and another to send to a friend in Sicily who is looking for relatives here. Jo Ann

I am trying to trace back my ancestors from Sardinia. My grandfather's travel card lists his port of departure as Carloforte but I don't think he originated from this town. I realize that the name "Sanna" is a common Sardinian surname and I am looking for advice as to where to begin my search. Peter Sanna psanna@rcn.com

On Sat, 07 Sep 2002 23:38:06 GMT, "S.Barbara" <smbarr@eatel.net> wrote: >http://www.eatel.net/~smbarr/images.htm >www.eatel.net/~smbarr/ >Don't miss this port!!! >Italian, French, English, German, passengers >Italian Vital Records It's Spam, friends, and does not belong on this newsgroup!!! What these folks really want is for you to spend $38.00 for their CD. You'd think they could at least be honest and not waste everyone's time. Shame. Benny Rab

Sorry Benny, This is not spam. That CD contains ships manifests for 147 ships arriving at the Port of New Orleans from 1861 and 1912. I have found manifests for my maternal grandparents, my paternal grandmother, my father and his two siblings all of whom came to the US through New Orleans on this CD. To me that was worth the price I paid for the CD. I have no connection or interest with SBarbara. Her web site is very good. Ciao, Josephine Montana Mudge Benny wrote: > > On Sat, 07 Sep 2002 23:38:06 GMT, "S.Barbara" <smbarr@eatel.net> > wrote: > > >http://www.eatel.net/~smbarr/images.htm > >www.eatel.net/~smbarr/ > >Don't miss this port!!! > >Italian, French, English, German, passengers > >Italian Vital Records > > It's Spam, friends, and does not belong on this newsgroup!!! What > these folks really want is for you to spend $38.00 for their CD. You'd > think they could at least be honest and not waste everyone's time. > Shame. > > Benny Rab > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

The September-October 2002 issue of the Comunes of Italy Magazine is due back from the printer this week, and should be in the mail to all subscribers by mid-month. This issue features Matera Province in the Basilicata Region of southern Italy. Anyone interested in more information about the magazine, which is dedicated to Italian genealogy, is invited to visit our webpage at http://www.ItalianAncestry.com/coi or drop me an e-mail at ComunesofItaly@Comcast.Net. Here's a peek at the index. Basilicata - Jack Renshaw Book Review: The Stone Boudoir Chicago's Italians, 1850-1985 - Domenic Candeloro Earthquake History of Basilicata I Was Always Italian - Mimi Torchia Boothby Italian Occupations in 1930's NYC Lignaggio - Jenny Floro Khalaf Matera Draft Records Matera Province: History, Festivals+ Events, Census, Tourist Office, Catholic Churches,Patron Saints, Postal Codes New Surnames Our Italian Surnames - Bianca Ottone Patron Saint of Italy Researching Collateral Lines - Laura Johnson Roots in the Agri River Valley, Matera - Judy Armento Surprises from the Past - Tony Lascio Grace Lancieri Olivo, GraceOlivo@Comcast.Net Editor, Comunes of Italy Magazine, ComunesOfItaly@Comcast.Net http://www.ItalianAncestry.com/coi

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On Fri, 06 Sep 2002 19:12:56 GMT, "Michele" <anoodd@tin.it> wrote: >CIAO! > >I Can, and I am Very Glad to Help you, Giving you Very Useful Assistance for >your Italian >Genealogical Researches, as I have Already Done, and I'm Doing for Many >Fellow Italian People! The very last reason this newsgroup exists is for jake leg genealogists, real or self styled, to advertise here. We help each other here for free. Nobody wanyts to pay you for a service they can get for free. GO AWAY. You are a crook!!! Benny Rab

CIAO! I Can, and I am Very Glad to Help you, Giving you Very Useful Assistance for your Italian Genealogical Researches, as I have Already Done, and I'm Doing for Many Fellow Italian People!