Mi interessano informazioni su famiglie di sicura o probabile discendenza da gentes dell'antica Roma (non mi riferisco quindi a discendenze mitiche, come quella dei Colonna dalla gens Iulia). So che la famiglia Cecina, discendente dai Caecina, è arrivata fino al XVIII secolo e si è estinta con il principe Filippo Maria Cecina (vescovo o cardinale di Volterra). Di un'altra famiglia ho trovato traccia nell'albero genealogico dei Bevilacqua di Ferrara http://www.sardimpex.com/bevilacqua/BEVILACQUA5.htm dove è citato il marchese Luigi Tremelio Scroffa, marito di Eleonora Bevilacqua e vissuto in epoca napoleonica, che sembrerebbe connesso alla gens dei Tremellii Scrofae. z.

"BC" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected] > First Posting: > > Benedetto Papa - aka - Benjamin Papas > Born: January 25, 1880 > Place of Birth: Believed to be Sant'Angelo, Calabria; however, there > are at least three villages named Sant'Angelo in Calabria, and we > don't know which one was his birthplace. (message snipped) Italy phone directory at http://www.infobel.com/italy has 31 PAPAS listings, 24 of them with associated name of GIACOLETTO, none of them in any of the Sant'Angelo locations, but some might be close by if you look at postal codes. Have you tried searching for US immigration information? Joe in Texas

""Janet Bush"" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected] > Hello everyone, > I am new to this list and hope someone can help. > (Message snipped) > I guess what I need to know is: is there any way to find Katrine's father and mother's immigration from Italy to Ireland? And as a result, find their names. > > I am obviously hampered in Italian research without a word of Italian. Any suggestions will be welcomed. > Regards, Janet Bush (Ontario, Canada) > Just a long shot, but if you haven't already, you might post your request on the soc.genealogy.ireland news group. Italy phone directory at http://www.infobel.com/italy/ has 34 Ortello listings. The site of http://www.gens.labo.net/ will show you the distribution of Ortello in Italy. Just put Ortello in Cognome box, and click on the red arrow. To the right of Regione: on the first page is America. If you click on that you can look at the distribution in the US of that name. US phone directory at http://www.infobel.com/usa/ when checked for all states, finds 7 Ortello listings. If you do find some information, and want help in contacting individuals or organizations in Italy, check out this site. http://www.geocities.com/italianproject2002/ Not a lot of help, but good luck. Joe in Texas

First Posting: Benedetto Papa - aka - Benjamin Papas Born: January 25, 1880 Place of Birth: Believed to be Sant'Angelo, Calabria; however, there are at least three villages named Sant'Angelo in Calabria, and we don't know which one was his birthplace. Died: Saturday, April 14, 1923 Residence at death: 14 Schuyler Street, Amsterdam, NY Spouse: Julia Ruth Teeling One Child: Joseph Michael Papas, born October 12, 1914 At the time of his death, Benedetto had the following known living relatives: Father: living in Italy - name unknown, but believed to be Guiseppe Papa. Cousin: Rose (Santora(o) Gregori residing NYC - either Manhattan or Staten Island. Rose resided in Staten Island in the late 1950's and 1960's. Had a son, Edward. Sister: Caterina If anyone has any information on this family, I'd sincerely appreciate hearing from them. This is my biggest "brick wall". Thanks

"Andr?a" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected] > Hi Everyone, > IŽm from Brazil and IŽm looking for information about JanelliŽs > family. I donŽt know if "janelli" is the correct manner, I think is > much more like "Ianelli". > My great grand-father came here around 1830, and his name was José or > better Giuseppe Janelli. > So, I hope someone can help me find something about him. > Thanks for help and sorry, but thereŽs so many time I donŽt write in > english. > Andréa There are 9 Janelli and 127 Ianelli listings in the Italy phone directory on the Net at http://www.infobel.com/italy You can see the distribution of both names in Italy by going to this site. http://www.gens.labo.net/ Put a surname in the Cognome box, and click on the arrow. It would be good if you could locate your ancestors in Brazalian immigration data. Can't help you there. An Internet search for "Italian Immigration to Brazil" will give you about 36 sites to investigate. Be sure and use the quotation marks. Some of these may be of help. Good luck, Joe in Texas

Hi Grace, thanks so very much for forwarding to your friend. I am soooo excited! Can't wait to hear from you or your friend! Karrin in CA

The town you are looking for is probably Bitritto, I'm forwarding your message to a friend of mine who has extracted all the data available for that town - if your Edward is from there, he will be able to help you, Grace Lancieri Olivo, [email protected] Editor, Comunes of Italy Magazine, [email protected] Co-Chair, OSIA CSJ-New Jersey http://www.ItalianAncestry.com/coi http://www.ItalianAncestry.com/tito -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 2:42 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Emigration info requested, Edward GUST Hi, new to list! Looking for emigration info on Edward Gust, born July 24, 1885, in Batrito, in the area of Bari. It looks like he comes to the states, and marries Rose Veraldi, and reside in Denver, Colorado. 1930 census says that she's born in Colorado, and her parents are from Italy. First child is born 1914, Marie Gust, Colorado. Other children are Isabell, Nicholas, Edward, Dorothy and Elaine. Any info or direction would be appreciated! If I'm posting to the wrong list, please redirect me! Karrin in CA

Hi Everyone, I´m from Brazil and I´m looking for information about Janelli´s family. I don´t know if "janelli" is the correct manner, I think is much more like "Ianelli". My great grand-father came here around 1830, and his name was José or better Giuseppe Janelli. So, I hope someone can help me find something about him. Thanks for help and sorry, but there´s so many time I don´t write in english. Andréa

Thanks Joe. Dee

In a message dated 8/26/2004 6:02:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Only one Gust listing in the Italy phone directory on the Net. How do you bring up the Italian phone book? Dee

http://www.infobel.com/italy/ Joe <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected] > In a message dated 8/26/2004 6:02:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > Only one Gust listing in the Italy phone directory on the Net. > How do you bring up the Italian phone book? > > Dee >

<[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected] > Hi, new to list! Looking for emigration info on Edward Gust, born July 24, > 1885, in Batrito, in the area of Bari. > > It looks like he comes to the states, and marries Rose Veraldi, and reside in > Denver, Colorado. 1930 census says that she's born in Colorado, and her > parents are from Italy. > > First child is born 1914, Marie Gust, Colorado. > Other children are Isabell, Nicholas, Edward, Dorothy and Elaine. > > Any info or direction would be appreciated! If I'm posting to the wrong > list, please redirect me! > > Karrin in CA Could not locate a Gust immigration from Batrito on Ellis Island listings. There are 134 Gust listings, none showing to be from Italy. Only one Gust listing in the Italy phone directory on the Net. GUST WILLIAM DAVID 15 V. ANTONIO CHINOTTO 36100 VICENZA 0444 327854 German phone directory shows many Gust listings, too many to list. Are you sure of the Italian connection? Not much help for you. Joe in Texas >

Hi, new to list! Looking for emigration info on Edward Gust, born July 24, 1885, in Batrito, in the area of Bari. It looks like he comes to the states, and marries Rose Veraldi, and reside in Denver, Colorado. 1930 census says that she's born in Colorado, and her parents are from Italy. First child is born 1914, Marie Gust, Colorado. Other children are Isabell, Nicholas, Edward, Dorothy and Elaine. Any info or direction would be appreciated! If I'm posting to the wrong list, please redirect me! Karrin in CA

L'Istituto Araldico Genealogico Italiano e la Scuola di Genealogia, Araldica e Scienze Documentarie si sono fatti promotori del IV Convegno Nazionale sulla Storia di Famiglia che ha lo scopo di far incontrare e conoscere gli appassionati e gli studiosi di Storia di Famiglia, per offrire loro la possibilità di presentare pubblicamente i propri lavori in un ambiente di rispetto e di serietà scientifica, capace di suscitare un confronto costruttivo, atto a favorire la comprensione di nuove metodologie per la Storia di Famiglia. In sintesi ci si propone di offrire nuove opportunità per proseguire ed approfondire la ricerca genealogica, in uno spirito costruttivo che faciliti un più veloce raggiungimento dei traguardi preposti. I TEMI SONO I SEGUENTI: 1) Le mie "scoperte" sulla Storia di Famiglia attraverso l'aiuto della genealogia, dell'araldica e delle scienze documentarie. 2) Come sono riuscito a realizzare il mio albero genealogico ritrovando la mia completa identità (storica, genetica, culturale, sociale...). 3) La mia ricerca negli Archivi alla scoperta dei documenti che mi permettessero di conoscere le mie radici e la mia storia. 4) L'emblematica antica e nuova nella Storia di Famiglia. 5) Il fenomeno dell'emigrazione nell'elaborazione della Storia di Famiglia. Le relazioni, che devono essere originali ed inedite e non possono superare le 16 pagine, dovranno essere presentate entro e non oltre il 20 settembre 2004, indirizzandole a: Istituto Araldico Genealogico Italiano Casella postale n. 764 - 40100 Bologna (oppure in forma elettronica alla seguente e-mail [email protected]) o telefonando allo 051 271124 oppure 3880010099 I lavori proposti saranno esaminati da un'apposita commissione scientifica per la valutazione. Il IV CONVEGNO NAZIONALE SULLA STORIA DI FAMIGLIA si svolgerà a Bologna, presso la Sala delle Conferenze del Circolo Sottufficiali di Presidio, in Via Urbana 10, con il seguente programma: Sabato 25 settembre - ore 14,30 apertura; - ore 15,00 relazioni; - - ore 17,30 chiusura convegno. Domenica 26 settembre - ore 14,30 prosecuzione; - ore 17,30 chiusura.

Bologna 25-26 settembre 2004 IV CORSO GRATUITO DI GENEALOGIA E STORIA DI FAMIGLIA rivolto alla Popolazione Bolognese presso la Sala delle Conferenze del Circolo Sottufficiali di Presidio Via Urbana 10 - Bologna Tutti almeno una volta nella vita Vi sarete chiesti chi fossero i Vostri antenati. Probabilmente molti di Voi non saranno stati in grado di rispondere per mancanza di dati, o qualcuno alla domanda: "Chi sono i suoi ascendenti e discendenti?" avrà pensato addirittura a quanto scrive G.C. Croce in Bertoldo e Bertoldino: "I fagiuoli, i quali bollendo al fuoco vanno ascendendo e discendendo, su e giù per la pignatta". Eppure tutti possiamo rispondere a questa domanda, perché tutti abbiamo 2 genitori, 4 nonni, 8 bisnonni, 16 trisnonni e via dicendo... L'importante è ritrovare proprio loro (non dei loro omonimi) perché solo così potremo conoscere qualcosa di più di noi stessi. Per avere qualche indicazione più precisa basterà partecipare a questo Corso completamente gratuito organizzato da importanti esperti di Storia di Famiglia, che vi insegneranno a rintracciare da soli le tappe della Vostra Storia, permettendoVi di delineare il Vostro Albero Genealogico Familiare. Dopo il grande successo delle precedenti edizioni annuali (San Marino 2001, Bologna 2002, Roma 2003) è stato deciso di organizzare questo IV corso a Bologna. Il corso è particolarmente consigliato agli studenti della Scuola di Genealogia. Programma del corso SABATO 25 SETTEMBRE 2004 - 10,30 Pier Felice degli Uberti "Alla ricerca dei nostri antenati: è possibile per tutti costruire la propria storia di famiglia". - 11,00 Carlo Tibaldeschi "Società umana e genealogie familiari: differenze e coincidenze". - 11,30 Marco Horak "L'utilità della demografia storico-economica nello studio della Storia di Famiglia". - 12,00 Carlo Pillai "I documenti utili per la storia di famiglia nei vari Archivi della Repubblica Italiana". - 12,30 Luigi Borgia: "I principi fondamentali del sistema araldico utili a costruire la propria insegna". DOMENICA 26 SETTEMBRE 2004 - 10,00 Maria Loredana Pinotti "La rappresentazione grafica dell'albero genealogico". - 10,30 Maurizio Carlo Alberto Gorra "Lo stemma inteso come rappresentazione grafica del nome". - 11,00 Nerio Pantaleoni "Lo studio dell'albero genealogico attraverso i caratteri fisiognomici integrativi che caratterizzano il nostro volto". - 11,30 Pier Felice degli Uberti "Le prove genealogico-nobiliari del XXI secolo per la ricezione negli ordini cavallereschi". Coloro che desiderano partecipare al Corso, che è completamente gratuito, sono tenuti a comunicare la loro presenza contattando la segreteria dal lunedì al venerdì dalle ore 18 alle 19 ai seguenti numeri telefonici: 051.271124 oppure 388.0010099.

There are Italians with last name Pianta. Check here: <http://elenco.libero.it/elencotel/public/RisultatoRegioni.jsp?nome=&cognome=pianta> On 23 Aug 2004 22:06:20 -0700, [email protected] (Chris Piantes) wrote: >Are there any Italians with the last name Piante, particularly in Genoa?

"Joe Pessarra" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected] > > "Chris Piantes" <[email protected]> wrote in message > news:[email protected] > > Ciao italiani, sono grecoamericano di Lemnos, territorio di Genova in > > periodi medioeviali. È ci degli italiani con il cognome Piante, > > particularmente in Genova? > > > > Hello Italians, I am a Greek-American from Lemnos, a territory of > > Genoa during the Middle Ages. Are there any Italians with the last > > name Piante, particularly in Genoa? > > A look at the distribution of Italian names in Italy at > http://www.gens.labo.net/ shows no Piante surnames. Piante means plants in > Italian, so there are many commercial listings with this name, having to do > with agriculture, I imagine. > > Italy phone directory on the Net at http://www.infobel.com/italy show no > Piante people listings. There are some 59 Del Pianto listings. > > Good luck on your search. > > Joe in Texas Sent the following directly to Chris yesterday. Chris, Just did a quick search for Piante in the Ellis Island immigration records. Look what I found. Name - Piante, Raffaele Ethnicity - Italian South Place of Residence - Rapolla Date of Arrival - June 01, 1907 Age on Arrival - 32y Gender - M Marital Status - M Ship of Travel - Neckar Port of Departure - Naples, Campania, Italy I can't copy the ship manifest, the site will not allow that function. You can look at it yourself though. Raffaele is on line 7 on the manifest. Ellis Island site is at http://www.ellisisland.org/ I think you have to register in order to see the manifest. But there is no charge. Take a look. Joe in Texas

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I have DiFiore's in my tree as well as live DiFiore's in Sicily. In the past they were also listed as simply "Fiore" Our famiy is from Piana dei Greci (now Piana degli Albanesi (PA) ) I believe they are also Arberesh. Joni