In article <[email protected]>, "J Rubio" <[email protected]> wrote: > Please, be careful with the news. > I'm writing in the genealogic newsgroup. This is not the place to discuss > this matter. Thank you very much. > > Por favor, no envieis mensajes indiscriminados a varios grupos, ni hagais > caso de los polemistas que buscan enfrentamientos. > A cada grupo, lo que le corresponde. > Y esto se esta leyendo en el de genalogia (desde donde escribo), que no > tiene nada que ver con absurdas diatribas. Gracias. > > Javier Rubio > Hispania > > gavrillacq <[email protected]> escribió en el mensaje de noticias > [email protected] > > Estimado "Pedro Albi-zoo", > > > > Pregunta:?Y si te dicen que eres una chupacabra del planeta Pluto? > > > > Lo eres? > > > > Mi'jo comiendote las mitologias de mierda, simplemente te hace un > > comemierda!!! Piensa bien en los "hechos" que te estas tragando y > > entonces, no va ser necesario darte una enema intelectual en el futuro, > > administrado por los bomberos famosos de Ponce!!! > > > > But since I don't know if you speak Spanish, English, Spangli' or > > "Lateeno", I will respond more specifically to your post below in > > English, since your post suggests you are more comfortable in that > > language. Here goes...(my responses will appear below with 5 stars > > (*****)preceding them. > > __________________________________ > > Pedro writes: > > In article <[email protected]>, > > [email protected] wrote: > > > "Hispanic" is a category invented by a bureaucratic federal agency > > > (Statistical Directive 15) to "count" people of Latin American > > > ancestry (including Puerto Ricans). It is an ethnic category ("ethnos" > > > greek for culture). The purpose is to market crap at a larger group > > > rather than having to specialize in Boricuas , Cubans or mexican niche > > > markets. > > *****PRECISELY, this Hispanic/Latino MYTHOLOGY was INVENTED by > > bureau-clowns who DO NOT (I repeat), DO NOT know (or care to understand) > > the racial, ethnic, cultural REALITIES that exist south of Key > > West,Florida or Laredo, Texas. (Even though these racial dynamics are > > IDENTICAL to ones that exist NORTH of the border as well). I am sure > > that these mindless drones don't ever leave their "think" tanks in > > Washington, DC, given their necessary and numerous (and mandatory) guest > > appearances at every "multi-cultural" dance they attend for "Porto > > Rican" Barbie or "Diversity Ken". Afterall, having to "split" the > > FALLACIOUS Hispanic/Latino "RACE" into the VERY distinct, different and > > DIVERGENT pieces, might be a little too demanding for their vacant and > > ethno-centric "I-be-da-real-American" myopia. Anyone of even minimal > > intelligence knows already, that the reason for "grouping" (like > > ignorant cattle) all of these VERY DIFFERENT people is to amalgamate > > these politically profitable populations and then reduce them to > > administratively expedient "groups"; even if this "grouping" exists ONLY > > ON PAPER in an already defunct Census form!!! > > > > Pedro writes: > > > But, and this is a big BUT, in US popular culture Latinos AS A GROUP > > > are considered non-white. This also means that individual Latinos can Pedro, Who cares? que mas da? what difference does it make. Somos de carne y hueso, seres humanos pero al mismo tiempo no importa que sea blanco, negro, indio.... Does it really mean that much to u if we are not considered 'white' como el anglosajon. Boberia, 'mano! You believe in freedom then u don't need el otro to define who u are. Piensalo bien. You are either a decent human being or an evil one. That is the ultmate choice in life Blood is red-you live like a warrior dedending those less fortunate and fighting for freedom OR die like a coward using hypocracy, backbiting, cunning and engaging in acts against la libertad. suerte el trinitario > > > live lives as Black, white, Chinese etc. But as a group (mestizaje, > > > multaje etc.) are considered non-white. Anyone has heard of the "one > > > drop rule"? Look at Supreme Court decisions about this! > > *****This is only true, if you believe the lie to begin with!!! Let's > > try to remember what I said above about being what you "swallow". > > Or are we REALLY to believe in this ludicrous "One-Drop Rule" that was > > created by a toothless, gout-ridden, illiterate slave owner in > > Mississippi in the 1700s to increase the size of his "slave" population? > > Is this THE source of modern scholarship and research that dictates > > pseudo-INTELLIGENT thought in contemporary America or anywhere else > > today??? And let's not even address the "beliefs" of the "Supreme > > Court" because this is the same legislative body that denied WOMEN the > > right to vote for DECADES!!! And I hope that anyone reading this, knows > > how "correct" that policy was. And please note, that the "fact" that > > MILLIONS of "Americans" believe the lie of the "one-drop-rule", DOESN'T > > make it true. ANYONE with a conscience and the most minimal knowledge > > of Mendel's experiments with EVEN green peas, knows that when 2 > > varieties of any species are "crossed", the result is not one or the > > other. THE RESULT is a combination of BOTH!!! But I guess Mendel > > didn't allow for political prostitution on the part of the members of > > the new "variety". Apparently even the green peas had more integrity > > than us, more "advanced" species. What do you think? So, who should we > > believe, toothless Bubba raping his female slaves in the barn or modern > > science and rational thought? Does this question even need to be > > asked??? Incidentally, Alberto Fujimori, THE PRESIDENT OF PERU, is the > > son of JAPANESE immigrants to Peru and he is referred to, by the > > Peruvian people, as "el Chinito", but even HE doesn't believe he is > > Chinese!!! > > > > Pedro writes: > > > If people know in Birmingham Alabama that Rosello is Boricua he will > > > be considered non-white, blue eyes and everything. In states like > > > Louisiana for many years a white person is a person that had less > > > than 1/32 Black ancestry. Sounds irrational, race is irrational. But > > > if people believe it is real it is real in its consequences. > > *****YOU are absolutely RIGHT again!!! And let's also remember, those > > same "people" in Birmingham, Alabama are the same people who who still > > LYNCH black people and not-too-long-ago turned FIRE HOSES on Black > > children who only wanted to go to school. ?Are these cretans, the > > intelligent beings who possess the powers of reason and analysis re. > > "race" that the rest of the country (or the world) is to believe as > > "racial reality". Let's all try to comprehend that these "beliefs" and > > anyone's endorsement of them DEFIES INTELLIGENCE and INTEGRITY and only > > speaks to the level of intellectual compromise that USAmericans have > > sunk to, when looking at the whole issue of race today. So, I pose the > > question again... > > "So who should we believe, toothless Bubba raping his female slaves in > > the barn or modern science" and intelligent discourse. Or does rational > > and reasonable thought have no place in the "race" dialog? To follow > > your logic, apparently not!!! > > > > "Pedro" please reach for the toilet paper and this time,wipe another > > orifice with it. Parece mentira... > > > > Greg Medina Rivera > > Copyright @ 2,000 > > All rights reserved, > > this document may not be reprinted > > without express written permission > > of author > > > > > > ======================== > > > In article <[email protected]>, > > > [email protected] wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Intellectual argument of the Issues at hand: > > > > www.onelist.com/subscribe/issues > > > > Para asuntos Hispanos, en Castellano: > > > > www.onelist.com/subscribe/boriken > > ________________________________ > > > > From: spike <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > Further to the question of whether the U.S. > > > > Government counts Hispanics as White or not: > > > > time constraints have thus fsr prevented me from > > > > tracking this all the way back to original > > > > sources, but this site at least provides some > > > > links to start with for anyone who chooses to do > > > > so. > > > > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > > Before you buy. > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.