Please, be careful with the news. I'm writing in the genealogic newsgroup. This is not the place to discuss this matter. Thank you very much. Por favor, no envieis mensajes indiscriminados a varios grupos, ni hagais caso de los polemistas que buscan enfrentamientos. A cada grupo, lo que le corresponde. Y esto se esta leyendo en el de genalogia (desde donde escribo), que no tiene nada que ver con absurdas diatribas. Gracias. Javier Rubio Hispania gavrillacq <[email protected]> escribió en el mensaje de noticias [email protected] > Estimado "Pedro Albi-zoo", > > Pregunta:?Y si te dicen que eres una chupacabra del planeta Pluto? > > Lo eres? > > Mi'jo comiendote las mitologias de mierda, simplemente te hace un > comemierda!!! Piensa bien en los "hechos" que te estas tragando y > entonces, no va ser necesario darte una enema intelectual en el futuro, > administrado por los bomberos famosos de Ponce!!! > > But since I don't know if you speak Spanish, English, Spangli' or > "Lateeno", I will respond more specifically to your post below in > English, since your post suggests you are more comfortable in that > language. Here goes...(my responses will appear below with 5 stars > (*****)preceding them. > __________________________________ > Pedro writes: > In article <[email protected]>, > [email protected] wrote: > > "Hispanic" is a category invented by a bureaucratic federal agency > > (Statistical Directive 15) to "count" people of Latin American > > ancestry (including Puerto Ricans). It is an ethnic category ("ethnos" > > greek for culture). The purpose is to market crap at a larger group > > rather than having to specialize in Boricuas , Cubans or mexican niche > > markets. > *****PRECISELY, this Hispanic/Latino MYTHOLOGY was INVENTED by > bureau-clowns who DO NOT (I repeat), DO NOT know (or care to understand) > the racial, ethnic, cultural REALITIES that exist south of Key > West,Florida or Laredo, Texas. (Even though these racial dynamics are > IDENTICAL to ones that exist NORTH of the border as well). I am sure > that these mindless drones don't ever leave their "think" tanks in > Washington, DC, given their necessary and numerous (and mandatory) guest > appearances at every "multi-cultural" dance they attend for "Porto > Rican" Barbie or "Diversity Ken". Afterall, having to "split" the > FALLACIOUS Hispanic/Latino "RACE" into the VERY distinct, different and > DIVERGENT pieces, might be a little too demanding for their vacant and > ethno-centric "I-be-da-real-American" myopia. Anyone of even minimal > intelligence knows already, that the reason for "grouping" (like > ignorant cattle) all of these VERY DIFFERENT people is to amalgamate > these politically profitable populations and then reduce them to > administratively expedient "groups"; even if this "grouping" exists ONLY > ON PAPER in an already defunct Census form!!! > > Pedro writes: > > But, and this is a big BUT, in US popular culture Latinos AS A GROUP > > are considered non-white. This also means that individual Latinos can > > live lives as Black, white, Chinese etc. But as a group (mestizaje, > > multaje etc.) are considered non-white. Anyone has heard of the "one > > drop rule"? Look at Supreme Court decisions about this! > *****This is only true, if you believe the lie to begin with!!! Let's > try to remember what I said above about being what you "swallow". > Or are we REALLY to believe in this ludicrous "One-Drop Rule" that was > created by a toothless, gout-ridden, illiterate slave owner in > Mississippi in the 1700s to increase the size of his "slave" population? > Is this THE source of modern scholarship and research that dictates > pseudo-INTELLIGENT thought in contemporary America or anywhere else > today??? And let's not even address the "beliefs" of the "Supreme > Court" because this is the same legislative body that denied WOMEN the > right to vote for DECADES!!! And I hope that anyone reading this, knows > how "correct" that policy was. And please note, that the "fact" that > MILLIONS of "Americans" believe the lie of the "one-drop-rule", DOESN'T > make it true. ANYONE with a conscience and the most minimal knowledge > of Mendel's experiments with EVEN green peas, knows that when 2 > varieties of any species are "crossed", the result is not one or the > other. THE RESULT is a combination of BOTH!!! But I guess Mendel > didn't allow for political prostitution on the part of the members of > the new "variety". Apparently even the green peas had more integrity > than us, more "advanced" species. What do you think? So, who should we > believe, toothless Bubba raping his female slaves in the barn or modern > science and rational thought? Does this question even need to be > asked??? Incidentally, Alberto Fujimori, THE PRESIDENT OF PERU, is the > son of JAPANESE immigrants to Peru and he is referred to, by the > Peruvian people, as "el Chinito", but even HE doesn't believe he is > Chinese!!! > > Pedro writes: > > If people know in Birmingham Alabama that Rosello is Boricua he will > > be considered non-white, blue eyes and everything. In states like > > Louisiana for many years a white person is a person that had less > > than 1/32 Black ancestry. Sounds irrational, race is irrational. But > > if people believe it is real it is real in its consequences. > *****YOU are absolutely RIGHT again!!! And let's also remember, those > same "people" in Birmingham, Alabama are the same people who who still > LYNCH black people and not-too-long-ago turned FIRE HOSES on Black > children who only wanted to go to school. ?Are these cretans, the > intelligent beings who possess the powers of reason and analysis re. > "race" that the rest of the country (or the world) is to believe as > "racial reality". Let's all try to comprehend that these "beliefs" and > anyone's endorsement of them DEFIES INTELLIGENCE and INTEGRITY and only > speaks to the level of intellectual compromise that USAmericans have > sunk to, when looking at the whole issue of race today. So, I pose the > question again... > "So who should we believe, toothless Bubba raping his female slaves in > the barn or modern science" and intelligent discourse. Or does rational > and reasonable thought have no place in the "race" dialog? To follow > your logic, apparently not!!! > > "Pedro" please reach for the toilet paper and this time,wipe another > orifice with it. Parece mentira... > > Greg Medina Rivera > Copyright @ 2,000 > All rights reserved, > this document may not be reprinted > without express written permission > of author > > > > ======================== > > In article <[email protected]>, > > [email protected] wrote: > > > > > > > > > Intellectual argument of the Issues at hand: > > > www.onelist.com/subscribe/issues > > > Para asuntos Hispanos, en Castellano: > > > www.onelist.com/subscribe/boriken > ________________________________ > > > From: spike <[email protected]> > > > > > > Further to the question of whether the U.S. > > > Government counts Hispanics as White or not: > > > time constraints have thus fsr prevented me from > > > tracking this all the way back to original > > > sources, but this site at least provides some > > > links to start with for anyone who chooses to do > > > so. > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy.