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    1. beginning with you--humor
    2. richhart
    3. humor! glory bee The next time you are feeling rather unimportant, try a little mathematical trick based on the fact that it took two people, your parents, to get you here. Each of your parents had two parents, so in the generation just prior to that of your mother and father, there were four people whose pairing off and sharing a love contributed to your existence. You are the product of eight great-grandparents, 16 great-great-grandparents, 32 great-great-great grandparents, etc. Keep on multiplying the number by two, you will discover that a scant 500 years ago, there were 1,048,576 people on this planet beginning the production of you. Tom Lynn

    03/04/2000 11:46:34
    1. surname FRIOR, BARRENECHEA
    2. ROLUFE
    3. I'm loocking for this surnames: Agustina Frior . May be was born in1853 in Spain. Her parents: Manuel Frior y Vicenta Barrenechea. Si alguien tuviera alguna informacion por favor escribanme. Gracias.

    03/04/2000 10:32:21
    1. Re: Philippines' Family History
    2. Kalaninuiana`olekaumaiiluna Mondoy
    3. RICHARD FISKE wrote: > > I would like to start to record my wife's family history and would like to > know > which archives and records exist. Are their any online resources? > Have any books been written on the subject? > What experiences have you had? > That's a good URL that was given by winddancer. I just got another friend involved in his Filipino genealogy. I started back in '90 and went to the LDS' Family History Center and began ordering films there. I was able to pull 297 names on my paternal grandmother's side, but this was only by doing those relatives who carried her surnames, the Puertos. Not Filipino with a Spanish surname. Here's an excerpt taken from: http://buhiclaveria.tripod.com/ DURING the early years of Spanish colonization, the indigenous people of what now is the Philippines were converted to Roman Catholicism and eventually forced to take either Spanish names or the names of saints for their first names. The native's names did not favor the ignorant ears and indolent tongues of the Spanish invaders. Governor General (1844-1849) Narciso Claveria y Zaldua went a step further. He issued on 21st November 1849 an executive edict compelling native and immigrant families to adopt Spanish surnames. A more capricious scheme then was the imposition on non-Spaniards to use surnames indexed according to their place or residence. For example, natives of the town of Baao, Camarines Sur were assigned family names starting with the letter "B" or those from Oas, Albay the letter "R." There's more on the net you could look about the surname acquisition in the Philippines. The book that was helpful in tracing my Filipino ancestry was called "Tracing your Philippine Ancestors". I believe the last name of the author was Vance. My friend borrowed it online. How he even found out about that book w/o me telling him I can't even tell you. It's a 3 volume book. The first volume tells you how to trace it, what to expect, etc. The 2nd volume focuses on each province, when it came to existence, etc. The 3rd volume I think lists all the churches and when each church began their records. All of my research was done through the catholic churches which the Family History Center has on microfilm plus other records like naturalization and some military records. They probably have more depending on which province you are searcing. That book I mentioned will be helpful as to what to expect and clues as to how to do your search. I really didn't find much over the internet except to bridge gaps between distant relatives. Here's what I did on my family if you're thinking of a way to present it. I've seen many other pages. All of them good too! http://home.earthlink.net/~motuahina/ohana1.html And also my genealogy: http://home.earthlink.net/~motuahina/kuauhau.html Kalani [email protected]

    03/04/2000 08:54:04
    1. fire @ NARA--tho't U want 2 know
    2. richhart
    3. from another list! passing it along--just in case you had not heard. glory bee This kind of information affects us all, in one way or another either immediately or later, but is never what we want to hear! We are waiting for further news on this tragedy > National Archives Statement on Records Center Fire > U.S. Newswire > 1 Mar 15:39 > > National Archives and Records Administration Statement on >Records Center Fire > To: National Desk > Contact: National Archives Public Affairs, 301-713-6000 > > WASHINGTON, March 1, /U.S. Newswire/ -- The following is a > statement from John W. Carlin, archivist of the United States, > on the Feb. 29 Records Center Fire: > > Yesterday (Tuesday, Feb. 29), the National Archives and Records > Administration (NARA) reported a fire in its Washington National > Records Center in Suitland, Md. The fire was contained by the > Center's fire-safety system and extinguished with no reports of > harm to staff or visitors, but some records were damaged. The > following is an update on that from Archivist of the United States > John Carlin. > > Although much work will be needed before we can be certain, we > believe that of the total of more than 3.7 million cubic feet of > records at Suitland, approximately 3,000 cubic feet were in the > immediate area. Of those, fewer than 300 cubic feet may have been > destroyed. Most of the affected records were wet or damp from > sprinkler water or in singed boxes. Our staff at Suitland stayed > up through last night making valiant efforts to protect records > from water damage and otherwise dealing with the fire's effects, > working with personnel from the General Services Administration, > from which we lease the facility. > > The cause of the fire is as yet undetermined. Because the > property is Federal, the FBI and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, > and Firearms as well as GSA fire investigators were notified. As > the investigation continues, the following is what we know about > the fire so far. > > The sprinkler alarms were activated at 2:30 p.m. Tuesday, and > alerted the GSA Control Center that there was a problem. The first > fire company arrived sometime between 2:45 and 2:50. A fireman on > the scene was overcome with smoke at which point firemen abandoned > Stack 15 to open the roof hatches to vent the smoke. This process > apparently took approximately one hour to accomplish before the > firemen returned to Stack 15 to begin to extinguish the fire. The > sprinkler system contained the fire during the period between > 2:30 and 3:50 at which point the firemen were able to enter the > stack. At 8:13 p.m. the firemen on the scene felt that the fire was > sufficiently extinguished to allow the investigation to begin in > the stack. > > Our tracking system enabled us to identify the records on the > shelves affected by the fire, and agencies whose records may have > been affected have been notified. But we won't be able to identify > exactly which records have been affected and how seriously until > the investigation of the area is completed and we can examine the > materials more closely. > > I will provide further information as it becomes available. > > ------ > For further information, contact the National Archives public > affairs staff at 301-713-6000. > > -0- > /U.S. Newswire 202-347-2770/ > 03/01 15:39 > > Copyright 2000, U.S. Newswire

    03/03/2000 08:50:09
    1. familla alarza
    2. rmalarcol
    3. Estoy buscando familiares. ********************* Lo más agradable del futuro es que llega de día en día. *********************

    03/03/2000 01:49:26
    1. sk-publications info
    2. richhart
    3. Only Dona Ana county is available. other CD's must be ordered/purchased I just checked it out.. So much for that good idea! glory bee

    03/02/2000 08:54:10
    1. from other lists..
    2. richhart
    3. the url to check this out is: > http://www.skpub.com/genie/censuscd/co.html this for sure is OK > http://www.skpub.com/genie/censuscd/nm.html I understand this is an ok URL..for New Mexico not tried it zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz fully-searchable Pedigree Resource File (PRF) online > is now available at the FamilySearch > website (http://www.familysearch.org). As you know, > these represent > unlinked pedigrees submitted by individuals through > the FamilySearch.org web > site. The Pedigree Resource File entries appear as > integrated results from > the main search page, along with applicable IGI and > Ancestral File entries, > on the "Search Results" page. > > Although individual records show parentage and > spouses (where available), as > yet there is no pedigree function, i.e., there is no > way to graphically show > ancestry for an individual as is the case with > Ancestral File. from other lists.. info to share..

    03/02/2000 08:50:17
    1. Re: Looking for Malvar surnamed folks and family crest
    2. Jose E. Sanchez
    3. [email protected] wrote: > > Greetings..we hail from the province of batangas, philippines. and we > have a family site that we would like to make as comprehensive as > possible on all the malvars. > > We know that we share the same last name with other spanish speaking > folks.so if they were also doing their research, maybe we could help > each other.Our site features a biography of our ancestor, a national > hero who led in the battles against the spaniards and the americans. > > If someone could help us in our research on our family crest..we would > appreciate it. My mother's family was able to obtain the family crest of > the Reyeses..and it came from Spain. Unfortunately, the person > instrumental in procuring their crest is dead ..and so we are seeking > help. > > Thank you in advance. > > winddancer > [email protected] > http://www.malvar.net > > Females in batangas..always travel with our butterfly knives, our > jusi embroidered fans..(to be ladylike)..and we serve the best strong > barako coffee in this side of paradise > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy. Crest or Blason for the surname MALVAR: En gules, tres bezantes, de plata, mal ordenados. Good Luck! Jose E. Sanchez

    03/02/2000 08:25:17
    1. Looking for Malvar surnamed folks and family crest
    2. Greetings..we hail from the province of batangas, philippines. and we have a family site that we would like to make as comprehensive as possible on all the malvars. We know that we share the same last name with other spanish speaking folks.so if they were also doing their research, maybe we could help each other.Our site features a biography of our ancestor, a national hero who led in the battles against the spaniards and the americans. If someone could help us in our research on our family crest..we would appreciate it. My mother's family was able to obtain the family crest of the Reyeses..and it came from Spain. Unfortunately, the person instrumental in procuring their crest is dead ..and so we are seeking help. Thank you in advance. winddancer [email protected] http://www.malvar.net Females in batangas..always travel with our butterfly knives, our jusi embroidered fans..(to be ladylike)..and we serve the best strong barako coffee in this side of paradise Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

    03/02/2000 04:55:09
    1. Re: Calderon Surname Site
    2. Would you be willing to accept members who share your last name..but are from the philippines. I hail from batangas..a province in the philippines..and i know that the calderons also hail from that town. They are illustrious and have a rich ancestry.. Good luck with the club. winddancer [email protected] http://www.malvar.net We in batangas..we take our barako coffee black..we travel with our balison knives...use our pina embroidered fans to be ladylike..and we got some fine buko pie..ah bliss. Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

    03/02/2000 04:47:30
    1. Re: Philippines' Family History
    2. We..the malvars of Batangas, Philippines have a site which features a bio of our national hero/ancestor Gen. Miguel Malvar. Since we only concentrated first on his children and his families..it was easier for us to build our tree. We did know who were my grandfather's siblings..and their children and who they married. Even then..hounding the relatives to submit their data took some time. There are some online resources which are available..that houses genealogical sites and surnmanes of people working on consolidating their ancestry. If you would like to get in touch with me..and give me your wife's last name and region where she comes from maybe i can help. Most surnames in the philippines..come from specific regions, even towns...so if it is an uncommon one, then your work is a lot easier. http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ranch/9121/personal.html is an address you can look up, there is also another resource center of distinct Philippine surnames, just do not have its url at the moment. Good luck in your research.. the one who dances with the wind [email protected] http://www.malvar.net Got my balisong knife, my pina embroidered fan...some buko pie..strong barako coffee...heaven...bliss > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

    03/02/2000 04:43:40
    1. Philippines' Family History
    2. RICHARD FISKE
    3. I would like to start to record my wife's family history and would like to know which archives and records exist. Are their any online resources? Have any books been written on the subject? What experiences have you had? Best Regards Richard Fiske

    02/29/2000 04:31:50
    1. Lucero Family
    2. Dye Family
    3. Hi, My Name is Lorraine Chavez-Dye (I go by Lori) My Mom and Grandmother were born in Trinidad Colorado My Mom is Marie E. Lucero-Chavez born June 1937 My Grandmother Sadie Lucero born June 1919 Sadie's parents listed on her SS record are Father Jose A. Lopez and Mother Delfina Vigil. I've hear two stories on her maiden name either Vigil or Lopez when I showed my Mother this record from SS Mom wasn't sure.. My Grandfather worked in the coal mines, followed the beets, and later lived on the farm and milked cows. Sam Lucero Nov 1912 Father is listed as Alberto Lucero and Mother is Martina Muniz I don't know what happened to Alberto and I do know that Martina re-married to Macario Gauna and they had more kids. I do know that some of them still live in Trinidad, however I don't know any of them or where in Pueblo and Trinidad they live. Please if you can help in anyway let me know. Thank you Lori :) [email protected]

    02/29/2000 08:52:48
    1. Re: surname richhart
    2. Joaquin Carrasco
    3. Hi, I've seen that your surname is richhart, do you know the origin of the surname and perhaps some coat of arms? Thank you in advance ximo www.uv.es/~ximocarr richhart ha escrito: > > http://babelfish.altavista.digital.com/ > This translates English--to Spanish, German, Italian, French > and I think Portugese.. > Also translates from those languages to English. > Works quite well--will translate if you copy and paste data > or if you enter a URL.. > Few idioms or words do not translate properly, but one is > able to get the Gist of the verbage. > glory bee

    02/29/2000 01:06:27
    1. Re: Circulo generealògico de Alicante ?
    2. François Barby
    3. Te puedo ayudar en Alicante ... Je peux t'aider pour Alicante ... Mais, pas en breton ! -- Amicalement, François ________________________________________________________ Visitez ma page : http://www.chez.com/fbarby/ Mes données sont sur Geneanet : http://www.chez.com/cdx/geneanet.fr/ ________________________________________________________

    02/28/2000 02:15:52
    1. Altea y Jalon, investigaciones genearol�gicas
    2. Joel LS
    3. Altea y Jalon, investigaciones genearològicas Mis bisabuelos nacieron en la region de Alicante ( Altea y Jalon ) antres de emigrar a Argelia. Son: - Juan Jorda nacido el 21/04/1849 en Jalon de Jaime Jorda et Mariana Mestre - Francisca Ripoll nacida el 1/12/1848 en Altea de Francisco Ripoll y Angela Zaragoza - Andres Zaragozi nacido el 12/07/1837 en Altea de Francisco Zaragozi y Josefa Valles - Angela Ripoll nacido el 4/03/1838 en Altea de Juan Ripoll y Angela Ripoll El segundo apellido desapareciò. Le agradeceria mucho a la persona que quisiera procurarse toda informaciòn que concierne el nacimiento y/o el matrimonio de mis parientes. Yo correré con los gastos necesarios ( fotocopias....) Estoria encantado por mi parle de participar a cualquier investigaciòn equivalente en mi regiòn : Bretaña àl oeste de Francia

    02/27/2000 01:50:04
    1. Circulo genereal�gico de Alicante ?
    2. Joel LS
    3. Circulo generealògico de Alicante? Existe un circulo generealògico en Alicante o Jalon? Cuales son sus señas ? Jalon y Altea son los lugares donde llevro a cabo mis investiaciones genearològicas. Alguien puede hacer para mi una investigacion sobre los achos de nacimiento o matrimonio sobre mis parientes ? Por mi parle estaria deacuerdo para realizar un favor equivalente.

    02/27/2000 01:48:02
    1. Re: EMPLOYMENT!!
    2. rudy hernandez
    02/27/2000 12:30:24
    1. Re: EMPLOYMENT!!
    2. rudy hernandez
    3. help me

    02/27/2000 12:29:22
    1. new genealogy site !
    2. Nela
    3. Visit the new site for recycling genealogical information !!! www.recyclegen.com The concept of the site is storing general genealogical information. This info will be stored on our archives and available to all visitors of the site to search. *Text search facility included) The site is designed for genealogy researchers who need> 1. space on their hard disk, without losing their data 2. to offload their unwanted genealogy material that may be wanted later Archives will only grow, there will be no deletion of genealogy info, therefore, you are encouraged to use RECYCLEGEN for the purpose of cleaning up your hard disk of data that you do not need at the moment, but may need later. Have a look and pass the word around the genealogical circles! We are not on any search engine, or any genealogy sites. Totally independent! Happy searching!

    02/26/2000 10:05:43