Axun Garmendia wrote: > > Gracias a todos los que me habéis contestado diciendo que veis el mensaje. > La verdad es que he tenido, y sigo teniendo, problemas con el servidor en > otro grupo, y quería comprobarlo. > > En cuanto a la información sobre el apellido Barrenetxea (Barrenechea), la > verdad es que no tengo ni idea. > > Axun > > antonio robles gentile escribió en mensaje ... > >si axun he visto tu mensaje,en este mismo grupo he visto un pedido de > >rolufe,que pedía datos sobre el apellido barrenechea,que yo creo son > >originarios de un caserio cercano a plentzia,si tienes informacion > >pasaselo.un saludo. > > antonio robles gentile. > >Axun Garmendia <[email protected]> escribió en el mensaje de noticias > >[email protected] > >> Estoy haciendo una prueba. ¿Podríais decirme si veis este mensaje? > >> > >> Axun > >> > >> > > > > Barrenechea: Apellido Vasconavarro. Don Jose Fernando de Barrenechea y Novia, II Marques de Puerto, y don Fernando Santos de Barrenechea y Castaños, los dos naturales de Bilbao, ingresaron en la Orden de Santiago en 1718 y 1786, respectivamente. Don Pablo Antonio de Barrenechea y Novia y don Andres de Barrenechea Fernandez del Campo, naturales de Bilbao, ingresaron en la Orden de Alcantara en 1741 y 1666, respectivamente. Etc y etc....... Armas: Los de Bilbao traen: en campo de plata, cuatro torres de gules, puestas una en jefe, otra en punta y otra a cada lado. Otros: en campo de oro, un castillo y dos leones empinados a ambos lados. Saludos, Jose E. Sanchez

Axun Garmendia wrote: > > Gracias a todos los que me habéis contestado diciendo que veis el mensaje. > La verdad es que he tenido, y sigo teniendo, problemas con el servidor en > otro grupo, y quería comprobarlo. > > En cuanto a la información sobre el apellido Barrenetxea (Barrenechea), la > verdad es que no tengo ni idea. > > Axun > > antonio robles gentile escribió en mensaje ... > >si axun he visto tu mensaje,en este mismo grupo he visto un pedido de > >rolufe,que pedía datos sobre el apellido barrenechea,que yo creo son > >originarios de un caserio cercano a plentzia,si tienes informacion > >pasaselo.un saludo. > > antonio robles gentile. > >Axun Garmendia <[email protected]> escribió en el mensaje de noticias > >[email protected] > >> Estoy haciendo una prueba. ¿Podríais decirme si veis este mensaje? > >> > >> Axun > >> > >> > > > > Barrenechea: Apellido Vasconavarro. Don Jose Fernando de Barrenechea y Novia, II Marques de Puerto, y don Fernando Santos de Barrenechea y Castaños, los dos naturales de Bilbao, ingresaron en la Orden de Santiago en 1718 y 1786, respectivamente. Don Pablo Antonio de Barrenechea y Novia y don Andres de Barrenechea Fernandez del Campo, naturales de Bilbao, ingresaron en la Orden de Alcantara en 1741 y 1666, respectivamente. Etc y etc....... Armas: Los de Bilbao traen: en campo de plata, cuatro torres de gules, puestas una en jefe, otra en punta y otra a cada lado. Otros: en campo de oro, un castillo y dos leones empinados a ambos lados. Saludos, Jose E. Sanchez

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Gracias a todos los que me habéis contestado diciendo que veis el mensaje. La verdad es que he tenido, y sigo teniendo, problemas con el servidor en otro grupo, y quería comprobarlo. En cuanto a la información sobre el apellido Barrenetxea (Barrenechea), la verdad es que no tengo ni idea. Axun antonio robles gentile escribió en mensaje ... >si axun he visto tu mensaje,en este mismo grupo he visto un pedido de >rolufe,que pedía datos sobre el apellido barrenechea,que yo creo son >originarios de un caserio cercano a plentzia,si tienes informacion >pasaselo.un saludo. > antonio robles gentile. >Axun Garmendia <[email protected]> escribió en el mensaje de noticias >[email protected] >> Estoy haciendo una prueba. ¿Podríais decirme si veis este mensaje? >> >> Axun >> >> > >

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Hola Javier, Disculpe mi catellano ... En muchos lugares, los actos quedan en las iglesias : Alicante, p.e. . Solo unos obispados tienen todos les registros catholicos : Albacete, p.e. . A Barcelona hay indices en archovas diocesanas, y libros en las iglesias . A cado lugar su regla ... Puedes ver : http://www.citeweb.net/gbrisson/piednoir/Espagne/infbarby.htm lo que sé . Si amigos españoles me mandan datos sobre sus ciudades, podre poner-los en esta pagina : todo depiende de ayuda mutual . Hasta prompto ... -- Amicalement, François ________________________________________________________ Visitez ma page : http://www.chez.com/fbarby/ Mes données sont sur Geneanet : http://www.chez.com/cdx/geneanet.fr/ MARSEILLE : 2600 ANS D'HISTOIRE ________________________________________________________

si axun he visto tu mensaje,en este mismo grupo he visto un pedido de rolufe,que pedía datos sobre el apellido barrenechea,que yo creo son originarios de un caserio cercano a plentzia,si tienes informacion pasaselo.un saludo. antonio robles gentile. Axun Garmendia <[email protected]> escribió en el mensaje de noticias [email protected] > Estoy haciendo una prueba. ¿Podríais decirme si veis este mensaje? > > Axun > >

Se ve tambien muy bien desde Toulon (Francia)... Axun Garmendia <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message : [email protected] > Estoy haciendo una prueba. ¿Podríais decirme si veis este mensaje? > > Axun > >

Hello, Thanks for your answer. If I understand I must send a letter to archivo diocesano? Adress : Arzobispado de Zaragoza Plaza de La Seo, 5 Zaragoza, España Friendly -- Christine Fagalde http://perso.wanadoo.fr/christine.fagalde/ J Rubio <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message : [email protected] > Hola: > > Esos datos, de existir aún, no están en ninguna iglesia en particular, sino > en el Archivo Diocesano, dependiente del Obispado de Zaragoza (antigua Cesar > Augusta). Debe dirigirse a ese archivo, y en él, intentar localizar la > parroquia en cuestión. > Como es lógico, el archivo guardará libros de multitud de parroquias (todas > las que le corresponden al obispado). Pero en los índices se puede comprobar > los años que abarca cada libro. > > Saludos > > Javier Rubio > Hispania > > François Barby <[email protected]> escribió en el mensaje de noticias > [email protected] > > Hola a todas y todos, > > > > ¿ Quien puede decir a Chritstine quales son iglesias la màs viejas de > > Zarragosa ? Porque no sirve de nadà de escribir a todas para buscar un > > matrimonio del siglo XVIII ..... > > Gracias a todos para su ayuda . > > > > -- > > Amicalement, > > > > François > > ________________________________________________________ > > Visitez ma page : http://www.chez.com/fbarby/ > > Mes données sont sur Geneanet : http://www.chez.com/cdx/geneanet.fr/ > > MARSEILLE : 2600 ANS D'HISTOIRE > > ________________________________________________________ > > > > > >

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Lorenzo <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected] > si... > > "Axun Garmendia" <[email protected]> escribió en el mensaje > news:[email protected] > > Estoy haciendo una prueba. ¿Podríais decirme si veis este mensaje? > > > > Axun > > > > > > Se ve muy claro desde la ciudad de Nueva York!!! Roberto

PASSING AND SHARING THIS INFORMATION IF OK--- SAVE ! IF NOT OK---DELETE! glory bee ============================================================ "VISITING CEMETERIES," by Juliana Smith <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> ============================================================ With spring nearly upon us, most of us are anxious to get out of the house and enjoy the sunshine. A visit to the cemetery is a good way to enjoy the great outdoors and to discover more about our families at the same time. WHAT YOU CAN FIND While some may see us hanging around cemeteries and think us a bit ghoulish, as family historians, we know that the records and headstone inscriptions found there can be incredibly rich sources of birth and death information. Cemeteries records may include sexton's records, church burial registers, cemetery deed and plot registers, burial permits, monument (gravestone) inscriptions, and more, depending on the place and time. Indexes can be a great starting point and helpful in pinning down what cemetery an ancestor is buried in and some have been indexed by genealogical and other historical agencies. Unfortunately, however, most cemeteries are not indexed and it will be necessary to write or visit the cemetery to obtain information. A great advantage of visiting a cemetery is that you will know exactly who is buried in the plot with the ancestor, and in adjacent plots, where you may find other family members. You may find your relative buried with his or her in-laws, cousins, or the married names of siblings. Information on tombstones could include, maiden names, birth and death dates, relationships, town of origin, military service, and possibly religious affiliation. All of this can lead to other record sources that can further your search. Some ethnic groups even have photographs embedded in the tombstones. It is not uncommon to find siblings that died in infancy or at a very young age buried in these plots. These siblings may have previously been unknown to you and their death records may also provide valuable information such as parents' names, towns of origin, etc. Symbols engraved on the headstone can also provide valuable clues. For more on this, see George G. Morgan's "Along Those Lines . . ." column of 23 July 1999 on "Cemetery Iconography" at: http://www.ancestry.com/columns/george/07-23-99.htm You may also find that the grave has been maintained or is freshly decorated with flowers, possibly by another unknown or long-lost family member. If this is the case you may want to check with the cemetery office or with a caretaker to see if this visitor is known to them. Or you could leave a note in a plastic casing (to preserve it from the elements) so that other family members who visit the grave can contact you. (You will want to be careful about how much information you leave though, as you don't have any way of knowing who will run across your note.) LOCATING CEMETERIES There are various ways to locate a place of burial for an ancestor. Death certificates will frequently contain this information, as will obituaries. Mass cards or prayer cards handed down or kept in family scrapbooks can also provide this information. Also many local societies have compiled cemetery indexes and others may have been put up on the Internet. Interment.net (http://www.interment.net/) is a good place to start looking for online cemetery records. You can also do a search, using your favorite search engine, for [the city, town, or county of interest] and "cemetery." Another useful online tool for locating cemeteries is the U.S. Geological Survey's Geographic Name Information Server (GNIS) at: http://mapping.usgs.gov/www/gnis/gnisform.html Just enter location information in the appropriate field(s) and choose 'cemetery' under 'Feature Type' and you will get a list of cemeteries in the area. By clicking on the cemetery of interest, you can also see a page that allows you to create a map of the area. If you know the religious affiliation, you might try to visit local Web sites for churches in the area. The Archdiocese of Chicago has a website just for the Catholic Cemeteries in the area at: http://www.cathcemchgo.org/home.htm Other directories online, include: Cemetery Junction http://www.daddezio.com/cemetery/junction/ Find a Grave http://www.findagrave.com/index.html List of State Veterans Cemeteries http://www.cem.va.gov/lsvc.htm Death http://www.totentanz.de/index.htm When trying to determine which cemetery in an area a family member is buried in, you might want to do a little research into the methods of transportation that were available in the area at the time. A walk-in cemetery will typically be within a couple of miles or so of the home of the deceased. Often railroads or streetcars also made stops at cemeteries, so by locating the residence of the deceased and plotting local cemeteries on a map, taking into account religious affiliations if known, you may be able to make an educated guess as to the burial location. Books like "Graveyard Shift: A Family Historian's Guide to New York City Cemeteries," by Carolyn Inskeep (http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog/product.asp?pf%5Fid=1126146&dept%5Fid=10103002) are also invaluable in tracing the history of cemeteries, and in tracking old cemeteries whose burials may have been relocated. VISITING CEMETERIES When you visit the cemetery you will want to check with the office to see what records are available. The offices will typically contain indexes to burials and possibly maps to help locate graves. Burial records, sexton's records, cemetery deeds, plat records, burial permit records, grave opening orders, and transit records may also be held in the offices and can provide valuable information. For more on burial and transit records, see George Morgan's article of 19 November 1999 "Using Burial Permits as Resources" at: http://www.ancestry.com/dailynews/11_19_99.htm#4 One word of warning--don't leave a purse or other valuables in your car when you visit cemeteries. Several local news programs here in the Chicago area issued warnings in the past weeks about thieves who were preying on visitors to cemeteries and robbing their cars while they visited graves. TAKING CARE WITH HEADSTONES If you are planning on visiting cemeteries remember to treat the headstones and markers with care. Many of these grave markers are very fragile, and even the pressure used to take a tombstone rubbing could cause damage to some stones. Do not apply shaving cream or other chemicals to the stones, as this can also cause damage. By using a mirror held at an angle or by photographing the stone at different angles, (or at different times of the day), it is often possible to make out those worn down inscriptions. I have also heard that a black light shone directly on the stone will help too. More information about tombstone care and preventing damage is available from: The Association for Gravestone Studies, 278 Main Street, Suite 207, Greenfield, Massachusetts 01301, Tel: 413-772-0836, E-mail: [email protected], http://www.berkshire.net/ags/. (Please include your name and mailing address in all correspondence.) -- Grand parents Raising Grandchildren Support Group Governor's task force on G. R. G. Grands place/by state--resource center http://www.grandsplace.com Over 5 million Grands are raising Grands Being a Grand is more than cookies and milk .~.;;~... :o} {o: .~.;;~....~.;;~... :o} {o: .~.;;~...

Hola: Esos datos, de existir aún, no están en ninguna iglesia en particular, sino en el Archivo Diocesano, dependiente del Obispado de Zaragoza (antigua Cesar Augusta). Debe dirigirse a ese archivo, y en él, intentar localizar la parroquia en cuestión. Como es lógico, el archivo guardará libros de multitud de parroquias (todas las que le corresponden al obispado). Pero en los índices se puede comprobar los años que abarca cada libro. Saludos Javier Rubio Hispania François Barby <[email protected]> escribió en el mensaje de noticias [email protected] > Hola a todas y todos, > > ¿ Quien puede decir a Chritstine quales son iglesias la màs viejas de > Zarragosa ? Porque no sirve de nadà de escribir a todas para buscar un > matrimonio del siglo XVIII ..... > Gracias a todos para su ayuda . > > -- > Amicalement, > > François > ________________________________________________________ > Visitez ma page : http://www.chez.com/fbarby/ > Mes données sont sur Geneanet : http://www.chez.com/cdx/geneanet.fr/ > MARSEILLE : 2600 ANS D'HISTOIRE > ________________________________________________________ > >

In a book on the founder of MONSANTO chemical, the author mentions that an ancestor, around 1860? had received a royal medal (knighted) by the king or queen of Spain. At that time the man, probably MOSES (or Moshe, Moises, Maurice) MENDES MONSANTO was living in Puerto Rico, spec. on the island of Vieques. Does anybody know, where those official records are kept? Are they published? What office, either in Puerto Rico or Spain would keep these records, does anybody know the adress? Any additional information on M. MENDES MONSANTO or (perhaps EMMANUEL?) MONSANTO, his wife Emma CLEWES? or his daughter OLGA (MENDES) MONSANTO (prob. born in Puerto Rico around 1870 - 1875) would be appreciated. Excuse me for writing English, I can read Spanish, but do not write it. Please answer directly to my e-mail [email protected] as I am not a sub-scriber. -- From: Christel Monsanto, Curaçao

Hola a todas y todos, ¿ Quien puede decir a Chritstine quales son iglesias la màs viejas de Zarragosa ? Porque no sirve de nadà de escribir a todas para buscar un matrimonio del siglo XVIII ..... Gracias a todos para su ayuda . -- Amicalement, François ________________________________________________________ Visitez ma page : http://www.chez.com/fbarby/ Mes données sont sur Geneanet : http://www.chez.com/cdx/geneanet.fr/ MARSEILLE : 2600 ANS D'HISTOIRE ________________________________________________________

Luis Llorens Torres is one of the best known poets of Puerto Rico and Latin America. Born in the late part of the 19th century, in the Collores ward, municipality of Juana Díaz, a town in the southern coast next to the city of Ponce, Puerto Rico. You can find more detailed information on him or his family in any Puerto Rican's biography book. marisel briggs wrote in message <[email protected]>... Any historical info on this name would be appreciated. Believe father and/or his family are from Spain. Also, are there any other Puerto Ricans in the central Puget Sound area? Do you "tostone"?

Good evening, I do not regrettably speak Spanish. How has to one proceed to obtain an act in Spain, in Saragossa? I look for the marriage certificate in January 24, 1750 of Marie Emmanuelle d' Assin Y Turvalde and Amanz de Sury d' Aspremont. Thank you to every person who could help me. Answer to my address email, please. Friendly -- Christine Fagalde [email protected] http://www.caids.net/entraide/ http://perso.wanadoo.fr/christine.fagalde/

Muy clarement, aún desde Puerto Rico!! Saludos. RGP Axun Garmendia wrote in message <[email protected]>... >Estoy haciendo una prueba. ¿Podríais decirme si veis este mensaje? > >Axun > >

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