Very much a cop out. I worked in a nursing home for 10 years and saw what damage they could do to a person. A lot of the changes in a senior's life was caused by the "aides" themselves who didn't want to put the effort into caring for the elderly and their ways. Like the whalebone corset. It meant more work for the aides to get it on and off a lady, the shoes too would be a problem as the aide would have to walk beside the resident and keep a sharper eye on them. Some of those brought into the homes were abandoned by their families, some weren't. I had my favorites, we all did. Our oldest died two weeks ago at 108. The second oldest just turned 108 last week. Sometimes its good, sometimes it isn't. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian" <brian@lordbramhall.co.uk> Subject: Re: [GEN-FRIENDS] hunting Good morning, Isn't this a cop out. I mean, someone who conducts his or her life in a certain way and then gets told by someone who knows better that something "is not good for them" has the right to decide for themselves. I think a good life but a short one is better than no life at all in a "senior home". Brian --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.314 / Virus Database: 175 - Release Date: 1/11/2002