You will love this. I decided to slurp a tin of soup and got one off the shelf, giving it a really good shake before ripping off the top with the ring pull. Then I gave it another shake for good measure. God, what a mess! That's what happens when you have a sober day! Brian Staffordshire, UK List Admin --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.368 / Virus Database: 204 - Release Date: 30/05/2002