I know a young man, a large young man, who has just put his leg through the rungs of a ladder at his brother's house and SHATTERED his leg all over the place. Marj (it's being so cheerful as keeps me going) > > Why don't you just take out alternate rungs? I think you would manage just > fine. And get someone else to watch! --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.314 / Virus Database: 175 - Release Date: 11/01/02