I think its worth reading the recent 'truth' about this affair Marj (as serialised in telegraph) apparently the Queen was really very helpful after Diana's death she immediately made aircraft available etc contrary to the press reports. Her grouse about the flag was something along the lines "If mummy or I died it still wouldn't be at half mast" ever the traditionalist. But she comes out much better than you think in this matter. incidentally I hope I didn't start an anti-royal string as myself I am much in favour of the monarchy as upholders of pageantry and tradition. Something to cling onto when others have nothing as can be seen by world events. This new breed are of course quite irreverent whereas I believe the Queen to be a devout Christian aware of her responsibilities which were thrust upon her at an early age. I like the story about Whitlam the Aussie premiere though - when he brought her a sheepskin rug - after a few drinks the Queen wrapped herself in it on the floor stroking it sensuously - Whitlam remarked that she had good legs and also backed off from the idea of trashing the monarchy! Wise lady. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Marged To: GEN-FRIENDS-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 9:26 PM Subject: Re: [GEN-FRIENDS] England and St George. I went off them all after the way they treated Diana. She needed guidance from a firm mother-in-law (or mother) but it was not given. What finished me off was the scene at Balmoral on the Sunday when I first heard Diana was dead - when the clergyman at the Church they had all been at stated "We did not mention her by name, but we said prayers for the dead". Diana's sons were there in that Church, and their mother's name SHOULD have been mentioned. And then all that stuff about no flag flying at Buckingham Palace etc. Ok, they put it right when the People showed they would not put up with it, but for me, it was too late. Marj > Glad to hear it, I think the good ole UK would be a sadder place without all > the pageantry, opening of parliament, trooping of the colours - just think > what dollar earners our Royals are. > As for a job for life, well if we had a president then s/he would have a > pension for life - and don't tell me they don't have their hangers on - I > know the do. > Our royals just do it with a bit more style. > Bubbles from Robin Hood Country. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.319 / Virus Database: 178 - Release Date: 28/01/02 ==== GEN-FRIENDS Mailing List ==== Suspect virus messages should be sent to the List Admin only, NOT to the list, so they can be checked out before a panic starts. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.309 / Virus Database: 170 - Release Date: 17-Dec-01

It's just a discussion Mike, and people giving their own opinions, and threads like this are interesting on a list. Sorry my mind is made up about what went on when Diana died. I lie in bed at night reading one book after another about Marie Antoinette and how she lost favour with the French people. She was not blameless, neither was she always in the wrong. Of course, it's history, just as all this will be history one day. What I see is a great similarity in the loss of popularity of Monarchy. The disestablishment of the Church (and worse) - in France it is necessary to get married first in the Registry Office at the Town Hall, then you can go to Church for the blessing, but not before. That's the law of the land since the Revolution. Sorry if I'm rabbitting! Was Whitlam the fellow who thought it was all right to put his hand on the Queen's back on one of her visits? No wonder, if she'd been rolling around on his rug! Marj > I like the story about Whitlam the Aussie premiere though - when he brought > her a sheepskin rug - after a few drinks the Queen wrapped herself in it on > the floor stroking it sensuously - Whitlam remarked that she had good legs > and also backed off from the idea of trashing the monarchy! Wise lady. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.319 / Virus Database: 178 - Release Date: 28/01/02

With you all the way on this, Mike. I've got a lot of time for "our" Lizzie. Brian List Admin ARBLASTER-L@rootsweb.com BAGOT-L@rootsweb.com BRAMHALL-L@rootsweb.com GEN-FRIENDS-L@rootsweb.com KINNERSLEY-L@rootsweb.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "mikemail" <michael@ae.net.sa> To: <GEN-FRIENDS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 7:43 PM Subject: Re: [GEN-FRIENDS] England and St George. > I think its worth reading the recent 'truth' about this affair Marj (as > serialised in telegraph) apparently the Queen was really very helpful after > Diana's death she immediately made aircraft available etc contrary to the > press reports. Her grouse about the flag was something along the lines "If > mummy or I died it still wouldn't be at half mast" ever the traditionalist. > But she comes out much better than you think in this matter. > incidentally I hope I didn't start an anti-royal string as myself I am much > in favour of the monarchy as upholders of pageantry and tradition. > Something to cling onto when others have nothing as can be seen by world > events. > This new breed are of course quite irreverent whereas I believe the Queen to > be a devout Christian aware of her responsibilities which were thrust upon > her at an early age. > I like the story about Whitlam the Aussie premiere though - when he brought > her a sheepskin rug - after a few drinks the Queen wrapped herself in it on > the floor stroking it sensuously - Whitlam remarked that she had good legs > and also backed off from the idea of trashing the monarchy! Wise lady. > > Mike > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Marged > To: GEN-FRIENDS-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 9:26 PM > Subject: Re: [GEN-FRIENDS] England and St George. > > > I went off them all after the way they treated Diana. She needed guidance > from a firm mother-in-law (or mother) but it was not given. > > What finished me off was the scene at Balmoral on the Sunday when I first > heard Diana was dead - when the clergyman at the Church they had all been at > stated "We did not mention her by name, but we said prayers for the dead". > > Diana's sons were there in that Church, and their mother's name SHOULD have > been mentioned. > > And then all that stuff about no flag flying at Buckingham Palace etc. > > Ok, they put it right when the People showed they would not put up with it, > but for me, it was too late. > > Marj > > > > > Glad to hear it, I think the good ole UK would be a sadder place without > all > > the pageantry, opening of parliament, trooping of the colours - just think > > what dollar earners our Royals are. > > As for a job for life, well if we had a president then s/he would have a > > pension for life - and don't tell me they don't have their hangers on - I > > know the do. > > Our royals just do it with a bit more style. > > Bubbles from Robin Hood Country. > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.319 / Virus Database: 178 - Release Date: 28/01/02 > > > ==== GEN-FRIENDS Mailing List ==== > Suspect virus messages should be sent to the List Admin only, > NOT to the list, so they can be checked out before a panic starts. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.309 / Virus Database: 170 - Release Date: 17-Dec-01 > > > ==== GEN-FRIENDS Mailing List ==== > Please type SURNAMES in UPPER CASE for ease of reading. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.319 / Virus Database: 178 - Release Date: 28/01/2002