Oh Vicky , do take care & take it really easy. Your other half has no excuse for not doing everything for you now. Sue S --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.314 / Virus Database: 175 - Release Date: 11/01/2002

My friend used to say to her (terrible) daughter "You are grounded - you are in the house for a month", and I would see the kid out in the street the next day, because as you say, Jean, it was more punishment for the mother! I said to her in the end "Why don't you just say you are grounded for 2 days and stick to it" The good news, Sue, is that she is now almost 40 and a very gracious young lady! Marj > My husband used to suggest we ground our younger daughter as a punishment. I > preferred other means as keeping her in the house was more of a punishment > for me rather than for her. I suggest confiscating the phone for a week and > letting her go gliding. -:))) --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.314 / Virus Database: 175 - Release Date: 11/01/02

Vicky , Sorry to hear about your fall , I hope you get to see the bone specialist soon ,I would have thought they would have had one at the hospital to see to you straight away . Really painful injuries you have I hope you are feeling better soon ,it can really shake you up a fall like that ,just take care and rest as much as you can . Thinking about you , Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vicky Ballantine" <cobolt47@frontiernet.net> To: <GEN-FRIENDS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2002 5:22 PM Subject: [GEN-FRIENDS] slow today > Sorry friends if I'm slow today. I'm kinda drugged up and my thoughts aren't > to clear. > > Yesterday, while helping hubby cut down tree's I fell on frozen dirt road, > hard. Broke my knee, tore muscle in my hip, twisted my ankle and landed hard > on the same wrist I damaged 5 weeks ago! > > I'm a real mess. Was in the ER from 2 to 5:30 yesterday--then had to find > some medicine, and then climb a step to get into my house. John had to go > and get a walker for my use. Won't be able to see the bone specialist until > next week. Will stay with the walker and knee brace until then. > > Well, bless everyone--I more than likely won't be on this much until I can > get around more! > > Brian, lovely name for the Yorkie! > > Vicky > America the Beautiful > Vicky B. > cobolt47@frontiernet.net > Iowa--USA > >

Hi Brian >Danni shouldn't have > problems at her age. I don't believe you. > You'd better believe it! We had a right do a couple of hours back as she "lost" her mobile phone. (personally I wish her Dad had never bought it for her in the first place). I had to ring BT Cellnet to get a block on it, ring the police to report it lost & then search her room for the insurance details, then I found the B....... thing in the car! If it hadn't been a present I would have binned it! All the time I was trying to sort it out she whined about how miserable she was about it & when I suggested she got on with looking for it I was shouted at! Tomorrows gliding lesson may become a figment of her imagination unless I become desperate for peace & quiet! Sue S --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.314 / Virus Database: 175 - Release Date: 11/01/2002

This weeks news from CD Books. Note they have a new web address. Pam. I use Archive CD Books in my research. The Archive CD Books Project http://www.archivecdbooks.org List Admin BRUNT-L@rootsweb.com ELSMORE-L@rootsweb.com GROCOTT-L@rootsweb.com BROWNSWORD-L@rootsweb.com THRASHER-L@rootsweb.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rod Neep" <rod@neep.demon.co.uk> To: <CDBOOKS-NEWS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2002 6:33 PM Subject: [CDBOOKS-NEWS] Issue 23 - January 19th 2002 > Archive CD Books News > Issue 23 - January 19th 2002 > > PLEASE NOTE OUR *NEW* WEB PAGE ADDRESS > http://www.archivecdbooks.org > > ========================================================= > > In this issue > > * New CD Releases > * New Web Site Address > * Email problems > * Current CD delivery Status > * 1902 London Suburban Directories! > * A Taster of What's Coming Next > > ________________________________________________________ > > NEW CD RELEASES > =============== > * Kelly's Directory of Worcestershire 1870 > Every place in Worcestershire is described > see Worcestershire directories page > > * Kelly's Directory of Worcestershire 1940 > An extremely comprehensive directory of Worcestershire in 1940 > see Worcestershire directories page > > * Kelly's Directory of Worcestershire 1912 > A very comprehensive 512 page directory > see Worcestershire directories page > > * Kelly's Directory of Warwickshire 1940 > A huge directory covering Warwickshire. > see Warwickshire directories page > > * The Book of Manchester & Salford (BMA) 1829 > Contains descriptions of the history of Manchester & Salford, > its development, people and industries. > see Lancashire History page > > * 1857 History, Gazetteer and Directory of Derbyshire - F White > One of the most comprehensive directories ever produced > for Derbyshire, with 996 pages. > see Derbyshire directories page > > * Directory and Gazetteer of Staffordshire with Dudley 1861 > A very large and particularly comprehensive directory > see Staffordshire directories page > > The easiest "launch" page to visit to see those is the "Latest Releases" > web page at: > http://www.rod-neep.co.uk/books/new/ > > >From that page (at the top left corner) it is also possible to download > a PDF file of the complete current lists of CDs in reference number > order. That was updated a few days ago, and contains all but the very > latest releases. > > We have several "special offers" running at the moment, until 31st > January, with compendiums of three CDs for the price of two, etc. Those > are also listed on the "Latest Releases" page. > _________________________________________________________________ > > * New Web Site Address > > PLEASE NOTE OUR *NEW* WEB PAGE ADDRESS > http://www.archivecdbooks.org > > (Not .com as previously) > > We are still struggling here at Archive CD Books.... and trying not to > become too frustrated in the process. > > It would appear that the ISP that we use for "archivecdbooks.com" has > disappeared off the net, and they cannot be contacted by phone. > > That is serious for all our email addresses : > mail addressed to anything @archivecdbooks.com is bounced as > undeliverable. If you have written to us during the last few days, we > won't have received your message. > > Permanent solutions: > > 1. the main web page address for the Archive CD Books Project is now: > http://www.archivecdbooks.org > Please amend your bookmarks, etc. accordingly. > note: .org and *not* .com > > 2. there is *one* email address working at present > orders@archivecdbooks.org > > PLEASE do *not* use this as an excuse to write and ask > "where is my CD?" - please! Yes, we did have a large backlog, > yes, the backlog of order processing has now been cleared. > Mailing of the last of the outstanding backlog orders > will be completed by Monday/Tuesday. > > 3. other e-mail addresses @archivecdbooks.org > *may* be working tomorrow (Sunday 20 Jan) > We shall see, and I will announce when they are running. > > Related things: > > The *main* part of our web site is hosted at a different ISP, and > therefore has been up and running all of the time. > (It was just the "front door" that went AWOL). The on-line catalogue and > shopping cart has always been working, and all orders for CDs have been > coming through as normal. > > ___________________________________________________________________ > > Current CD Delivery Status > > The lack of e-mails arriving here has had its plus side! On Wednesday, > Thursday and Friday, Cathy and Maxine worked their socks off to totally > clear the backlog of order processing. > > All orders received up until Thursday have now been processed, and the > CDs made and packed into jewel cases. A lot of the packets were posted > out on Thursday and Friday, (those were the oldest orders, some over two > weeks old) and the remainder will go out on Monday and Tuesday all being > well. > > Hopefully, we can now settle down to getting newly received orders out > within two or three days. > > __________________________________________________________________ > > 1902 London Suburban Directories ! > ================================== > > Just before Christmas, we released the CD of the London 1902 Directory. > That covered an area of central London approximately 6.5 miles x 10 > miles. There was a lot of interest in that one, but also many requests > for the suburban directories, covering the remainder of London, North > and South. > > Thanks to Nina Jenkins of the Family Record Centre (the PRO), we also > now have on loan the 1902 London Suburbs Directories. It is in two > parts, both of which are *huge* .... > > 1902 London Suburbs North > 1902 London Suburbs South > (The dividing line being the River Thames) > > Each has: > > A. A full house by house, street by street directory of > households, with head of household and occupation listed. > (Not just those with trades, it includes labourers, and > those with other non-trade occupations, or no occupation) > > C. An Alphabetical Directory of names > D. A Court Directory (names alphabetically arranged) > > (normally one would expect the "posh" folks to be in the court > directory, but this is obviously not the case with these books - so you > will need to look in both). > > E. A Classified Trades Directory (like a yellow pages) > > We hope to have that CD available in about a week's time. > > _______________________________________________________________ > > Books Now Scanned and Waiting Mastering > > A taster of the CDs to be released next.... > > 0616 1900 Kelly's Directory of Worcestershire > 0623 Roots and Branches > 0632 White's History Gazetteer & Directory of Staffordshire 1834 > 0633 Staffordshire Directory 1818 - Parson & Bradshaw > 0634 Pigot's Directory of Staffordshire 1828 > 0635 Pigot's Directory of Staffordshire 1842 > 0637 Kelly's Directory of Birmingham 1913 > 0642 Kelly's Directory of Warwickshire 1880 > 0649 Kelly's Directory of Shropshire 1870 > 0652 Post Office Directory Essex 1862 > 0653 Post Office Directory Essex 1871 with map > 0654 Post Office Directory Essex 1874 with map > 0655 Post Office Directory Essex 1878 > 0656 1882 Kelly's Directory of Essex with map > 0657 1890 Kelly's Directory of Essex > 0658 1895 Kelly's Directory of Essex > 0659 1899 Kelly's Directory of Essex > 0660 1906 Kelly's Directory of Essex > 0671 Post Office Directory Sussex 1874 > 0600 Bootle (Cumberland) Parish Registers > 0612 Middlesex - Little Guide 1906 (with map) > 0455 Surrey - Little Guide (5th ed. 1926 with map) > 0240 Lancs. Old and New Rochdale > 0402 Worcester in Olden Times (1849) Noake > > __________________________________________________________________ > > We now have a new colour laser printer that is capable of printing the > jewel case inserts much faster, and of a superb quality. That makes a > lot of difference to the general presentation of the CDs. > > More Family History Societies are beginning to stock the relevant CDs > for their county. That is really good news to us, and I would be really > happy to be approached by more of them. > > It has been something of a hectic week..... on the down side we have had > the web site and e-mails problems which have taken up a lot of our time, > (and still not totally solved), but on the plus side we have finally > cleared that backlog of orders, and in addition, have managed to scan a > *lot* of books. > > Regards > Rod > > > -- > ARCHIVE CD BOOKS - old books for genealogists reproduced on CD > Web : http://www.archivecdbooks.org > > > > ==== CDBOOKS-NEWS Mailing List ==== > Always keep an eye open for new CD releases > on the "Latest Releases" page on the web site > The Archive CD Books web pages are at > http://www.archivecdbooks.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.314 / Virus Database: 175 - Release Date: 11/01/2002

Vicky, we are all so sorry to hear of your more than 'disastrous fall'...and our thoughts and good wishes will certainly be with you until you're 'on the mend'...I was absolutely amazed that they even sent you home!!...You're not 21 gal!..I would think they would have kept you in hospital whereby they could treat you much better for pain and let the 'bone specialist' attend you there, or, at least arrange that you be taken to see him/her. As you say...you BROKE your knee and TORE a muscle ...plus, fell so hard on your wrist which you are still 'getting over from a break only 5 weeeks ago'....!!....It seems the 'same' everywhere...in, look at you, and 'ship you out'....PLUS, you say you 'had to find some drugs'....did they not send you home with something from the hospital pharmacy .... My prayers are with you Vicky that you will be able to make a quick and full recovery.... Frances __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com

That is the universal plight which all husbands are in. We can never do things fast enough for those alien beings we marry. Jim Sharpe Shaw, Oldham. ----- Original Message ----- From: George Elting <justgeo1@attbi.com> To: <GEN-FRIENDS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2002 8:15 PM Subject: RE: [GEN-FRIENDS] slow today > I'm in the same boat as Vicky's hubby, so I know what's going on! I do > things my way and I do get them done, just takes a bit longer! :) > > > Just another soggy Seattle Sysop. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dave Allen [mailto:dave@cdcatalogues.co.uk] > Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2002 11:46 AM > To: GEN-FRIENDS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [GEN-FRIENDS] slow today > > > Now you take care of yourself and let that husband of yours take care of > > things... He may not do it your way, but he'll get it done eventually! :) > > > Just another soggy Seattle Sysop. > > Now <whose> side are you on George ? > > Speaking as one who <never> manages to do things <that> way ............... > > Dave :-) > > > > ==== GEN-FRIENDS Mailing List ==== > Suspect virus messages should be sent to the List Admin only, > NOT to the list, so they can be checked out before a panic starts. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

> George, already I know you would not kid us about something like this, but > it chills my blood. > > Tell me it really is true? > > Marj http://www.snopes2.com/rumors/north.htm Suggest you read the above Marj Does Abu Nidal ring a bell ? Dave --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.314 / Virus Database: 175 - Release Date: 11-Jan-02

It seems Ollie was really on the ball George I wonder what happened to him. Jim Sharpe Shaw, Oldham. ----- Original Message ----- From: George Elting <justgeo1@attbi.com> To: <GEN-FRIENDS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2002 8:23 PM Subject: [GEN-FRIENDS] FW: 14 Years Ago > > > > Just another soggy Seattle Sysop. > > > > Do you remember this? It was 1987! > > At a lecture the other day they played an old news video of Lt.Col. > Oliver North testifying at the Iran-Contra hearings during the Reagan > Administration. > > There was Ollie in front of God and country getting the third degree, but > what he said was stunning! He was being drilled by some senator; > "Did you not recently spend close to $60,000 for a home security system?" > Ollie replied, "Yes, I did, Sir." > The senator continued, trying to get a laugh out of the audience," > Isn't that just a little excessive?" "No, sir," continued Ollie. > "No? And why not?" the senator asked. "Because the lives of my > family and I were threatened, sir" > "Threatened? By whom?" the senator questioned. "By a terrorist, sir" > Ollie answered. > "Terrorist? What terrorist could possibly scare you that much?" > "His name is Osama bin Laden, sir" Ollie replied. > At this point the senator tried to repeat the name, but couldn't > pronounce > it, which most people back then probably couldn't. A couple of people > laughed at the attempt. > Then the senator continued. "Why are you so afraid of this man?" > the senator asked. "Because, sir, he is the most evil person alive that > I know of", Ollie answered. > "And what do you recommend we do about him?" asked the senator. > "Well, sir, if it was up to me, I would recommend that an assassin team > be formed to eliminate him and his men from the face of the earth." The > senator disagreed with this approach, and that was all that was shown of > the clip. > If anyone is interested, the senator was none other than Al Gore. > > > ==== GEN-FRIENDS Mailing List ==== > Visit List General Archives at: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GEN-FRIENDS > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

George, already I know you would not kid us about something like this, but it chills my blood. Tell me it really is true? Marj --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.314 / Virus Database: 175 - Release Date: 11/01/02

> Bubbles - are you sure you're not WELSH? > > "Was a lovely looking pussy your Quilt is" > > Or if not Welsh, perhaps Irish (hope that's not a racist comment) > > Marj As one who had a sheltered upbringing , I do worry sometimes .................. Dave :-) --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.314 / Virus Database: 175 - Release Date: 11-Jan-02

> Thank you Dave, I'm often confused with MQS and Bloody Mary - did she marry > the King of Spain, if so did they meet? Please. > Bubbles from Robin Hood Country. http://www.britannia.com/history/monarchs/mon44.html Mary I and Philip of Spain. Different Mary ........... ( Liz I's sister ) as opposed to James V daughter Mary Mind you history wasn't my strong subject - can't remember dates for the life of me. Regards Dave --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.314 / Virus Database: 175 - Release Date: 11-Jan-02

> Now you take care of yourself and let that husband of yours take care of > things... He may not do it your way, but he'll get it done eventually! :) > Just another soggy Seattle Sysop. Now <whose> side are you on George ? Speaking as one who <never> manages to do things <that> way ............... Dave :-) --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.314 / Virus Database: 175 - Release Date: 11-Jan-02

Thank you. Bubbles from Robin Hood Country. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marged" <marged@btinternet.com> To: <Bubbles@kvenn.freeserve.co.uk>; <GEN-FRIENDS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2002 7:37 PM Subject: Mary Queen Of Scots : This seems to indicate she did meet him and two other husbands, Bubbles. : : I have seen a little monument at Roscoff, dedicated to Mary Queen of Scots : stopping off there when she was on her way to meet the Dauphin for her : wedding. I take this to be her first husband, Francis. : : http://www.lancs.ac.uk/users/history/studpages/maryqofs/ : :

Bubbles - are you sure you're not WELSH? "Was a lovely looking pussy your Quilt is" Or if not Welsh, perhaps Irish (hope that's not a racist comment) Marj --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.314 / Virus Database: 175 - Release Date: 11/01/02

Get Well soon Bubbles from Robin Hood Country. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Allen" <dave@cdcatalogues.co.uk> To: <GEN-FRIENDS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2002 7:30 PM Subject: Re: [GEN-FRIENDS] slow today : > Sorry friends if I'm slow today. I'm kinda drugged up and my thoughts : aren't : > to clear. : > : > Yesterday, while helping hubby cut down tree's I fell on frozen dirt road, : > hard. Broke my knee, tore muscle in my hip, twisted my ankle and landed : hard : > on the same wrist I damaged 5 weeks ago! : : Vicky, : : You'll have to take more water with the 40% proof girl ! : : Just as there was nobody holding up a score for "artistic interpretation" ! : : Regards : : Dave : : : --- : Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. : Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). : Version: 6.0.314 / Virus Database: 175 - Release Date: 11-Jan-02 : : : ==== GEN-FRIENDS Mailing List ==== : If you are a blood donor please ask to go on the Bone Marrow : Register. You won't be told about it if you don't ask. : : ============================== : To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: : http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 : :

Thank you Dave, I'm often confused with MQS and Bloody Mary - did she marry the King of Spain, if so did they meet? Please. Bubbles from Robin Hood Country. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Allen" <dave@cdcatalogues.co.uk> To: "Bubbles" <Bubbles@kvenn.freeserve.co.uk>; <GEN-FRIENDS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2002 7:26 PM Subject: Re: [GEN-FRIENDS] Happenings 19 January : > Forgive my ignorance but did M Q S ever meet her husband? : > Bubbles from Robin Hood Country. : : to quote from : http://www.marie-stuart.co.uk/ : : Mary was but a girl of 15 when she married Francis with whom she had been : brought up. Francis, a year younger, adored Mary and she bore him a strong : sisterly affection. He was a weak and sickly child, and it is unlikely that : the marriage was ever consummated. Francis fell ill with an ear infection in : November 1560 and was dead by 5th December, just over two and a half years : after their union. : : I seem to remember the second hubby, Darnley, better. : : Regards : : Dave : : : --- : Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. : Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). : Version: 6.0.314 / Virus Database: 175 - Release Date: 11-Jan-02 : :

This seems to indicate she did meet him and two other husbands, Bubbles. I have seen a little monument at Roscoff, dedicated to Mary Queen of Scots stopping off there when she was on her way to meet the Dauphin for her wedding. I take this to be her first husband, Francis. http://www.lancs.ac.uk/users/history/studpages/maryqofs/

> Sorry friends if I'm slow today. I'm kinda drugged up and my thoughts aren't > to clear. > > Yesterday, while helping hubby cut down tree's I fell on frozen dirt road, > hard. Broke my knee, tore muscle in my hip, twisted my ankle and landed hard > on the same wrist I damaged 5 weeks ago! Vicky, You'll have to take more water with the 40% proof girl ! Just as there was nobody holding up a score for "artistic interpretation" ! Regards Dave --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.314 / Virus Database: 175 - Release Date: 11-Jan-02

> Forgive my ignorance but did M Q S ever meet her husband? > Bubbles from Robin Hood Country. to quote from : http://www.marie-stuart.co.uk/ Mary was but a girl of 15 when she married Francis with whom she had been brought up. Francis, a year younger, adored Mary and she bore him a strong sisterly affection. He was a weak and sickly child, and it is unlikely that the marriage was ever consummated. Francis fell ill with an ear infection in November 1560 and was dead by 5th December, just over two and a half years after their union. I seem to remember the second hubby, Darnley, better. Regards Dave --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.314 / Virus Database: 175 - Release Date: 11-Jan-02