Brian.... Per your posting of Monday,April 22nd., regarding 'bounced mail' from a 'Robert Smith64'....I'm advising here that I do not recognize said e-mail address. Frances __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com

Yes, I lived through WW2 and am still alive to tell the tale Jim. but I come from a very dysfunctional family and I wish someone had given a bit of counselling to my mum and dad after they'd been apart for the whole six years. Marj > Marg I regard most of the pontifications of shrinks as balderdash. I think > that like social workers they do more harm than good. > Most people recovered from the terrible effects of WW2 without social > councelling, now even the armed forces insist on it. That very brave and > terribly disfigured Welshman said recently if you're in the armed forces, > the police or the fire service you must expect perhaps to see terrible > things. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.351 / Virus Database: 197 - Release Date: 19/04/02

Jim I think my camera is compact flash and when I got it, it had 2MB which was nowhere near enough even for visiting friends. I bought 32 MB as soon as I could and use it on the highest settings. I have taken 100 photographs, and found it a great bind downloading them all, but am now using the camera software for this and it is much faster. I am entirely satisfied with my camera, although it is probably obsolete now, after 18 months. I wish I could totally understand how to ZOOM - it must do something, I think, but I haven't spent enough time on the instruction book. Mine is Fujifilm MX 1200 Marj > Excuse me please if I reprise this subject but I still haven't got all the > information I need and I wondered if some of the Digi-Cam owners have any > comments re Systems. > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.351 / Virus Database: 197 - Release Date: 19/04/02

Again apologies I can only plead ignorance but I'm sure no self respecting old lag would be reading our gibberish. <G> Jim Sharpe Shaw, Oldham. -----Original Message----- From: Brian [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 5:00 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [GEN-FRIENDS] Prison THANK YOU FOR EMPHASISING THE FACT! Do you realise how dangerous it is to admit you are an ex cop or screw? Brian Staffordshire, UK List Admin www.lordbramhall.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim SHARPE" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 4:14 PM Subject: [GEN-FRIENDS] Prison > I didn't know you were a screw Brian. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.351 / Virus Database: 197 - Release Date: 20/04/2002 ==== GEN-FRIENDS Mailing List ==== If you are a blood donor please ask to go on the Bone Marrow Register. You won't be told about it if you don't ask. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.351 / Virus Database: 197 - Release Date: 4/19/02 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.351 / Virus Database: 197 - Release Date: 4/19/02

Apologies Brian. In my ignorance I presumed that working for the prison service meant you were a screw. Jim Sharpe Shaw, Oldham. -----Original Message----- From: Brian [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 5:08 PM To: Jim SHARPE; [email protected] Subject: Re: [GEN-FRIENDS] Prison I didn't say I was a screw - I simply said I worked for the Prison Service. Try to think before you open your mouth in furture! Brian --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.351 / Virus Database: 197 - Release Date: 4/19/02

I didn't say I was a screw - I simply said I worked for the Prison Service. Try to think before you open your mouth in furture! Brian Staffordshire, UK List Admin www.lordbramhall.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim SHARPE" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 4:14 PM Subject: [GEN-FRIENDS] Prison > I didn't know you were a screw Brian. > I concur however that prison doesn't seem to offer any discouragement to its > inmates not to provide any reason to be returned. If prisons were made most > uncomfortable, say Nissen huts on the moors suitably secured behind razor > wire with only rudimentary heating arrangements and very little in the way > of entertainment to ensure the sentence dragged then there would be far > fewer recidivists. > > Jim Sharpe Shaw, Oldham. > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.351 / Virus Database: 197 - Release Date: 20/04/2002

THANK YOU FOR EMPHASISING THE FACT! Do you realise how dangerous it is to admit you are an ex cop or screw? Brian Staffordshire, UK List Admin www.lordbramhall.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim SHARPE" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 4:14 PM Subject: [GEN-FRIENDS] Prison > I didn't know you were a screw Brian. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.351 / Virus Database: 197 - Release Date: 20/04/2002

Prison reform is a hundred years past due. I'm kind of "an eye for an eye" type of person although I'm mostly opposed to the death penalty. Mainly because death is too easy a punishment...let the sob's suffer their fates at the hands of their own. Now, about competition in schools. There's two school's of thought (no pun intended) on this and the wisest choice would be somewhere in-between the two of them. Personally, I don't like the forced competition on the younger children. It makes them want to learn for all of the wrong reasons. Competition needs to come from within, not from peers, as this is detrimental to social relationships. If unreasonably high expectations are placed on children, this will set them up for failure. On the other hand there's the self fulfilling prophecy, if a child isn't expected to do well, they won't. Sue* ----- Original Message ----- > Sue I applaud you. You must be a rare breed of social worker to agree there > is a need to tighten the screw on prison conditions. > Do you also agree that competition in schools is essential and children will > not be disillusioned by not being the absolute best in the class. > > Jim Sharpe Shaw, Oldham. --- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.351 / Virus Database: 197 - Release Date: 4/19/2002

Jim, I don't know about that, humanity managing without those from my profession. What about the Shaman, Medicine Man, Chief of the tribe, wise men and council. You don't think others turned to these people for personal guidance? Sue* ----- Original Message ----- > Just my personal opinion Sue. I'm sure it won't alter a thing. > Don't you think it strange that humanity managed without your profession for > a thousand years or more? > > Jim Sharpe Shaw, Oldham. --- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.351 / Virus Database: 197 - Release Date: 4/19/2002

Trouble is, Jim, I don't want to save them for any of mine [the relatives, not the winning lines]. I just got fed up with being shit on! Even my beloved daughter treats me exactly the way I intend to treat her at the time of my death. Brian Staffordshire, UK List Admin www.lordbramhall.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim SHARPE" <[email protected]> To: "Brian" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 4:14 PM Subject: RE: [Gen-Friends] Brian's difficulty with the stairs > Brian the week after you cash them all in you'd get a letter telling you one > had won the Million pounds. > > Jim Sharpe Shaw, Oldham. > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.351 / Virus Database: 197 - Release Date: 20/04/2002

Brian the week after you cash them all in you'd get a letter telling you one had won the Million pounds. Jim Sharpe Shaw, Oldham. -----Original Message----- From: Brian [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 8:58 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Gen-Friends] Brian's difficulty with the stairs I bought eight £1 Premium Bonds when I got my first [decent] wage in 1958. They are still in a tatty envelope with "SAVINGS" typed on the front and stored in the safe! Not a thing from them. In fact buying the stamp tyo report changes of address have probably cost me more by now. Brian Staffordshire, UK List Admin www.lordbramhall.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim SHARPE" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 8:47 PM Subject: RE: [Gen-Friends] Brian's difficulty with the stairs > Well how d'ya explain the lousy luck. > I've been on the pools 50 years, done the lottery since day one religiously, > bought granny bonds and premium bonds in their > hundreds........result........Zilch. > > Jim Sharpe Shaw, Oldham. > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.351 / Virus Database: 197 - Release Date: 19/04/2002 ==== GEN-FRIENDS Mailing List ==== If you are unsubscribed from the list unintentionally, simply resubscribe. A full mailbox, computer error, or spam may cause you to be unsubscribed. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.351 / Virus Database: 197 - Release Date: 4/19/02 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.351 / Virus Database: 197 - Release Date: 4/19/02

I didn't know you were a screw Brian. I concur however that prison doesn't seem to offer any discouragement to its inmates not to provide any reason to be returned. If prisons were made most uncomfortable, say Nissen huts on the moors suitably secured behind razor wire with only rudimentary heating arrangements and very little in the way of entertainment to ensure the sentence dragged then there would be far fewer recidivists. Jim Sharpe Shaw, Oldham. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.351 / Virus Database: 197 - Release Date: 4/19/02

Well Marg you certainly rattled my cage. Jim Sharpe Shaw, Oldham. -----Original Message----- From: Marged [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 9:29 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [GEN-FRIENDS] from today's Telegraph And another thing ................ The main purpose of sending on articles such as the one that has caused a flutter in the dovecot is not just to prove the point that the writer of the article is making, or otherwise as the case may be BUT - to engender discussion in the manner Pam and Frances have just demonstrated. In future when I send anything in, I am going to give it a heading saying "Discuss - do not shoot down in flames"! Marj > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.351 / Virus Database: 197 - Release Date: 4/19/02

Marg I regard most of the pontifications of shrinks as balderdash. I think that like social workers they do more harm than good. Most people recovered from the terrible effects of WW2 without social councelling, now even the armed forces insist on it. That very brave and terribly disfigured Welshman said recently if you're in the armed forces, the police or the fire service you must expect perhaps to see terrible things. Jim Sharpe Shaw, Oldham. -----Original Message----- From: Marged [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 9:14 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [GEN-FRIENDS] from today's Telegraph Oh dear, and just when you sent me a nice birthday greeting, too! I don't see my reply as taking personal affront Jim - I see it as an acceptable response to your question, and also to the fact that I see your response as critical of the article I sent in. It's not a case of thinking you don't respect my opinion, although the use of the word "balderdash" in your reply was a bit - well, harsh I think! Marj --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.351 / Virus Database: 197 - Release Date: 4/19/02

A bit of general good luck now and again wouldn't go amiss. Jim Sharpe Shaw, Oldham. -----Original Message----- From: Angela & Kostas Nicolaou [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 5:41 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Gen-Friends] Brian's difficulty with the stairs Lucky in love perhaps Jim ? --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.351 / Virus Database: 197 - Release Date: 4/19/02

Now, this is something you and I can agree on. Although I am a social worker, my degree is in law enforcement and police science. Sue* ----- Original Message ----- > I concur however that prison doesn't seem to offer any discouragement to its > inmates not to provide any reason to be returned. If prisons were made most > uncomfortable, say Nissen huts on the moors suitably secured behind razor > wire with only rudimentary heating arrangements and very little in the way > of entertainment to ensure the sentence dragged then there would be far > fewer recidivists. > > Jim Sharpe Shaw, Oldham. --- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.351 / Virus Database: 197 - Release Date: 4/19/2002

Ouch Jim. I'm a social worker and my daughter is a psychologist. Sue* ----- Original Message ----- > Marg I regard most of the pontifications of shrinks as balderdash. I think > that like social workers they do more harm than good. > Jim Sharpe Shaw, Oldham. --- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.351 / Virus Database: 197 - Release Date: 4/19/2002

Excuse me please if I reprise this subject but I still haven't got all the information I need and I wondered if some of the Digi-Cam owners have any comments re Systems. I think there are three types : Compact flash, SmartMedia, and Memory stick. Has anyone bought one of these and through experience thought 'I wish I'd bought X system'? Is 8Mb of memory sufficient if you are away from home with no computer access? I usually use two or three 12 exposure films on holiday. I under stand you can get 22 [email protected] 1Mpxl in high resolution. What would it be at medium res? Do I really need 2 Mpxl for snapping (only 8 piccies) Or is it really best to have removable memory. I gather that Compact Flash is the cheapest memory and Memory stick the dearest. Does anyone know the calculation formula to determine the number of frames per Mpxl per Mb You see I now know what questions to ask and its easier to martial ones thoughts at the keyboard than in a shop. Jim Sharpe Shaw, Oldham. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.351 / Virus Database: 197 - Release Date: 4/19/02

I agree, I agree with all you said Marged. It's just that I received this 3 times or was it 4 and I had to decide what list to respond on :) Cheers angela ----- Original Message ----- From: Marged <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 9:07 PM Subject: Re: [GEN-FRIENDS] from today's Telegraph > Well, Jim, it's nice to have your considered opinion. As a matter of fact, > I do concur with the message absolutely, having had the experience of making > a lot of friends on the internet at a time when big changes in my life might > have made me very lonely, and possibly even crack up. > > I do have a life outside e-mailing, but it certainly means a lot to me. > > Perhaps we might hear from others on the message, and also on whether it is > worth my while going on sending ANYTHING to THIS List? > > Marj > > > I'm tempted to interject "Balderdash". What do you say Brian? > > Since you opened it Marged I guess you concur with the psychologists? > > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.351 / Virus Database: 197 - Release Date: 19/04/02 > > > ==== GEN-FRIENDS Mailing List ==== > Visit List General Archives at: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GEN-FRIENDS > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

I did, Martha. View the guestbook at: http://www.royal.gov.uk/output/page225.asp Brian Staffordshire, UK List Admin www.lordbramhall.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martha W. Barker" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 12:15 AM Subject: Re: [GEN-FRIENDS] BIRTHDAYS - 21 April. > > A whole bunch of us told Marge Happy Birthday ;-) > > LOL > > I have an excuse, why didn't you wish Queen Elizabeth Happy Birthday Brian? > > Martha > Texan --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.351 / Virus Database: 197 - Release Date: 20/04/2002