Another option or idea. My local library recently purchased digital microfilm / fiche readers that allow you to copy JPEG, TIFF, etc. files on your laptop. In my case, take laptop to library. Download digital reader *drivers* to laptop. (This process is similar to adding a new printer or other peripheral to your computer.) Connect laptop to reader via USB cable. Insert microfilm / fiche into reader. Locate pages and save to laptop. - Took me about 2 trips to the library to get organized, then about 2 hours to get started working. I think this is similar technology that the FHL is using to digitize all of their records. --- "n.east" <neast@inbox.com> wrote: > A Microfiche reader may be your best bet. Second > hand ones can be found relatively cheap. Many places > used them for reading inventory listings (spare > parts) etc. Now they have switched to computers, the > reader/s have been relegated to the "backroom", if > still on hand. Check local second hand stores or > spare parts suppliers. They may have some. > Scanners/printers for home use don't have the > magnification capability to enable microfiche to be > read. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: squirrelena@yahoo.com > > Sent: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 02:18:17 -0700 (PDT) > > To: gen-comp-tips@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [GEN-COMP-TIPS] GEN-COMP-TIPS Digest, Vol > 3, Issue 93 - Scanners > > > > While on the subject of scanners, could someone > tell > > me if there is a relatively inexpensive > > scanner/printer that lets you read microfilm? > > > > I am still using XP with 1410 printer all in one. > > > > Thanks > > > > Shirley > > > > > > --- gen-comp-tips-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > >> > >> > >>> 6. Re: Photos (patssi@telus.net) > >> 7. Re: Scanners (Art Seddon) > >> 8. Re: Scanners (Lowell E Nichols) > >> 9. Re: Scanners (JLB) > > > >> > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > > Be a better friend, newshound, and > > know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. > > > http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ > > -------------------------------------- > > Having trouble with your subscription? Contact the > List Admin at > > gen-comp-tips-admin@rootsweb.com > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to > > GEN-COMP-TIPS-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > > -------------------------------------- > Having trouble with your subscription? Contact the > List Admin at gen-comp-tips-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to GEN-COMP-TIPS-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message >

A Microfiche reader may be your best bet. Second hand ones can be found relatively cheap. Many places used them for reading inventory listings (spare parts) etc. Now they have switched to computers, the reader/s have been relegated to the "backroom", if still on hand. Check local second hand stores or spare parts suppliers. They may have some. Scanners/printers for home use don't have the magnification capability to enable microfiche to be read. > -----Original Message----- > From: squirrelena@yahoo.com > Sent: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 02:18:17 -0700 (PDT) > To: gen-comp-tips@rootsweb.com > Subject: [GEN-COMP-TIPS] GEN-COMP-TIPS Digest, Vol 3, Issue 93 - Scanners > > While on the subject of scanners, could someone tell > me if there is a relatively inexpensive > scanner/printer that lets you read microfilm? > > I am still using XP with 1410 printer all in one. > > Thanks > > Shirley > > > --- gen-comp-tips-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > >> >> >>> 6. Re: Photos (patssi@telus.net) >> 7. Re: Scanners (Art Seddon) >> 8. Re: Scanners (Lowell E Nichols) >> 9. Re: Scanners (JLB) > >> > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Be a better friend, newshound, and > know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. > http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ > -------------------------------------- > Having trouble with your subscription? Contact the List Admin at > gen-comp-tips-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GEN-COMP-TIPS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

While on the subject of scanners, could someone tell me if there is a relatively inexpensive scanner/printer that lets you read microfilm? I am still using XP with 1410 printer all in one. Thanks Shirley --- gen-comp-tips-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > >> 6. Re: Photos (patssi@telus.net) > 7. Re: Scanners (Art Seddon) > 8. Re: Scanners (Lowell E Nichols) > 9. Re: Scanners (JLB) > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ

Whilst on the subject of scanners, please can anyone recommend a reliable and accurate scanner program that will produce documents that can be edited? I believe they have to be OCR. I have an Epson CX6600 printer/scanner but I cannot edit the scanned results. And, please, something that is user-friendly to a not very technical octogenarian! Many thanks, Joan.

I too have a Microtek Scanner which we use for mostly copies. Just put your original in the scanner an hit the copy button. Great for scanning photos, sending to E-mail, OCR, etc. Now the bad news. We purchased new computers with Vista and the only thing that does not work on the Vista is the Microtek Scanner. I sent off to Microtek and they said they do not intend to provide update drivers for the Vista. Orginally I was going to go back to XP but now after a month I am getting good at the new Vista and it runs every one of my programs, printer, etc. So I am getting a HP All in One wireless which my son has and he said it does everything except wash the car. Lowell On Sat, 19 Apr 2008 10:43:55 -0700 "Art Seddon" <aseddon@artseddon.com> writes: > I've had a Microtek Scanmaker for years that came with OCR that works > almost > flawlessly. It makes excellent graphic and photo scans also. > I'm sure that they have a current model with probably better > features. > > Art Seddon > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joan Smith" <jivsmith@tiscali.co.uk> > To: <GEN-COMP-TIPS@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 9:13 AM > Subject: [GEN-COMP-TIPS] Scanners > > > Whilst on the subject of scanners, please can anyone recommend a > reliable > and accurate scanner program that will produce documents that can be > edited? > I believe they have to be OCR. > I have an Epson CX6600 printer/scanner but I cannot edit the > scanned > results. > And, please, something that is user-friendly to a not very > technical > octogenarian! > Many thanks, > Joan. > > -------------------------------------- > Having trouble with your subscription? Contact the List Admin at > gen-comp-tips-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GEN-COMP-TIPS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -------------------------------------- > Having trouble with your subscription? Contact the List Admin at > gen-comp-tips-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GEN-COMP-TIPS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

In a message dated 19/04/2008 17:15:02 GMT Standard Time, jivsmith@tiscali.co.uk writes: Whilst on the subject of scanners, please can anyone recommend a reliable and accurate scanner program that will produce documents that can be edited? I believe they have to be OCR. Joan Try _http://www.simpleocr.com/_ (http://www.simpleocr.com/) Best wishes. Paul Gaskell Publicity Officer Oxfordshire Family History Society Website : _www.ofhs.org.uk_ (http://www.ofhs.org.uk)

Yes, if you want to text-edit your scans they have to be editable text, not images of text, and that's called OCR. You could try Simple OCR which is free. http://www.simpleocr.com/ I just use the one that came with my scanner which is a very skinny and old version of Abbyy FineReader. It's enough for my needs but you can go up, up, up in price with them depending on your wants. Abbyy FineReader Pro is $400 but will have a high degree of character recognition and retention of original page formatting. There are others in that range but the names escape me. -- JL JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://www3.telus.net/Jgen/jlog.html Joan Smith wrote: > Whilst on the subject of scanners, please can anyone recommend a reliable > and accurate scanner program that will produce documents that can be edited? > I believe they have to be OCR. > I have an Epson CX6600 printer/scanner but I cannot edit the scanned > results. > And, please, something that is user-friendly to a not very technical > octogenarian! > Many thanks, > Joan. > > -------------------------------------- > Having trouble with your subscription? Contact the List Admin at gen-comp-tips-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GEN-COMP-TIPS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

In a message dated 19/04/2008 16:40:03 GMT Standard Time, Kin2annie@aol.com writes: Recently I was told there's a website which offers offers drivers to make the HP 5p work on XP withOUT the card. They're on the HP website - the link in the UK is too long to post, but if you go to _www.hp.co.uk_ (http://www.hp.co.uk) , and put Scanjet 5P into the "Software and Driver downloads" search box, then you should be OK. Paul Gaskell Publicity Officer Oxfordshire Family History Society Website : _www.ofhs.org.uk_ (http://www.ofhs.org.uk)

My old HP scanjet 5p scanner was the best I've owned. It ran on 95 and 98 with never a fault nor whimper. When I upgraded to a new computer with XP, I was told by HP and the computer merchant there was no way I could use the 5p on it. Since then 3 xp compatible HP scanners have died and none worked as well as the 5p. The 5p did have an install card. Recently I was told there's a website which offers offers drivers to make the HP 5p work on XP withOUT the card. I've googled myself numb but found anything. Have I been led astray? Can one of you gurus guide me? HP is really sliding t'ward the bottom of my list. And no, if I could afford to buy another decent scanner, I wouldn't be asking for assistance. Thanks, all. **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851)

PaulGask@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 19/04/2008 17:15:02 GMT Standard Time, > jivsmith@tiscali.co.uk writes: > > Whilst on the subject of scanners, please can anyone recommend a reliable > and accurate scanner program that will produce documents that can be edited? I > believe they have to be OCR. > > > Joan > > Try _http://www.simpleocr.com/_ (http://www.simpleocr.com/) > > Best wishes. > > Paul Gaskell > Publicity Officer > Oxfordshire Family History Society > Website : _www.ofhs.org.uk_ (http://www.ofhs.org.uk) > > <snip> > Joan; Paul is correct about simpleocr. I've used it in the past and it works very well and I believe the cost is free. However, when my printer/scanner finally did break down, I purchased an 'HP psc 1210 all-in-one'. Other than the cost of replacement cartridges, I have been very happy with it. It comes with its own ocr that rivals simpleocr and is very easy to use. So, if you don't need a new printer/scanner then I would agree with Paul and get simpleocr. Otherwise consider an HP product. -- Enjoy the Search! Thayne

I've had a Microtek Scanmaker for years that came with OCR that works almost flawlessly. It makes excellent graphic and photo scans also. I'm sure that they have a current model with probably better features. Art Seddon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joan Smith" <jivsmith@tiscali.co.uk> To: <GEN-COMP-TIPS@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 9:13 AM Subject: [GEN-COMP-TIPS] Scanners Whilst on the subject of scanners, please can anyone recommend a reliable and accurate scanner program that will produce documents that can be edited? I believe they have to be OCR. I have an Epson CX6600 printer/scanner but I cannot edit the scanned results. And, please, something that is user-friendly to a not very technical octogenarian! Many thanks, Joan. -------------------------------------- Having trouble with your subscription? Contact the List Admin at gen-comp-tips-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GEN-COMP-TIPS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have just discovered this fantastic little program for keeping track of photos, etc. It indexes them in numerous ways, sorts, displays, etc. which would be really fabulous for family history buffs: http://www.memoryminer.com/help/video_gallery.html Just doubleclick the image with the two boys for a demo of everything it will do. Patricia Page BC Canada

I have Version 2.1.8. of Family Historian. Until earlier this month I was able to produce Narrative Reports (Descendants by Generation). I needed to make various alterations and additions to one of my lines following which,try as I might, I can no longer find a Narrative option in the Reports section, neither have I been able to find an answer in the User Manual or via the Users site. If anyone out there is able to offer any suggestions I would be so grateful...but please keep it as simple as possible. Thanks Thelma

I keep getting a pop-up message on my screen that says that a file is faulty or corrupted, and tells me to run something called CHKDSK. I assume this is short for 'check disk' and have found this mentioned in the Microsoft help page, but the instructions are a bit daunting for this 70-plus person, and I can't see how to run chkdsk. Any advice will be very much appreciated. Mal in W. Australia

In a message dated 15/04/2008 15:51:59 GMT Standard Time, parrsbay@iinet.net.au writes: I keep getting a pop-up message on my screen that says that a file is faulty or corrupted, and tells me to run something called CHKDSK. I assume this is short for 'check disk' and have found this mentioned in the Microsoft help page, but the instructions are a bit daunting for this 70-plus person, and I can't see how to run chkdsk. Any advice will be very much appreciated. Mal in W. Australia Hello Mal It's a long time since I heard from you - are you still editing your society's journal ? Anyway, to your problem. What operating system are you using - Windows XP and what version, Windows 98 or whatever ? We need that information to give you accurate directions. Best wishes. Paul Gaskell Publicity Officer Oxfordshire Family History Society Website : _www.ofhs.org.uk_ (http://www.ofhs.org.uk)

At 06:33 AM 13/04/2008 -0400, you wrote: >MSVCR71.dll What version of Windows are you running? Gary in Sunny Queensland, Australia. Genealogy Page <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~liddellfamily/>http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~liddellfamily/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.13/1375 - Release Date: 12/04/2008 11:32 AM

Donna (History Buff) M. St. Felix wrote: > I am way behind on email so this is a delayed reply. > > What is right with scanning, labeling and sorting photos depends on the > person and what you are happy with, as long as you can find what you are > looking for and the who, when and such is detailed. > > Here's what I do: > As I have full photos with a lot of people and then scanned enlarged crops > from them to individual people also done from those, I found a dual system > works. I copy from one to make the other. These are all under one folder > named PHOTOS. > > 1. I have the scans in family groups (full photos and crops). I use the > last name, the year and location as a main label. > If there's ten men in the photo from the family, as an example, how can you > put a first name on it?!!! This also allows me to keep events with multi > events grouped. > Examples of folder labels (a subfolder): > SMITH 1920 Denver, Colorado (I don't like abbreviations). > SMITH 1920 Denver, Colorado WEDDING of John 1888-1946 > > 2. I also have a folder sorted by dates for each photo, all grouped in one > folder for all names. It makes a nice time line visual and an easy to find > visual if looking at thumbnails. For women, I will list the maiden name and > the married name such as JONES - SMITH. I do NOT put the Jones as (Jones) > as then they can lay oddly. > Example of folder label (a subfolder under 'Photos'): > PHOTOS by Year. The contents reflects the year, last name, first name, > birth year, death year. > A photo label would read (example): 1901 JONES - SMITH, Mary 1877-1924. > > The end result is ONE main photo folder with TWO subfolders. > > Another note: When I do a scan, I also put enough room UNDER (open space) > the photo to allow full details to be added TO the photo, under the photo, > with my software. That way I know the information IS with the photo and I > add all types of info known concerning the photo and its contents. When > printing, that can be cropped out for the printing. It is never removed > from the original. When scanning I save the photo first in case I want to > add or change something. I do save those - so in my case I have a THIRD > subfolder titled 'Photos, BLANK Space, No Words'. The description and info > for each is only with the photo label. ..... In this folder is actually TWO > scans. One is the original size in high resolution and one is enlarged with > very high resolution to allow for enlargements on some tiny ones and also > for photos where you can barely make out faces (like in many group photos). > I also scan the black and whites in color. Software can adjust to black and > white for printing if wanted but I find clarity better in color. Some black > and whites I have scanned both ways. > > Now a trick I use: > I put all info into a Word Document which then also checks for spelling > errors. From that, it is copied to the photo info added into the blank > space I allow. The Word Document is then saved in the BLANK word photos > folder. > So in subfolder #3 under the main PHOTOS label are my blanks in two sizes > (at least) for each photo that I have saved along with the Word Documents. > The Word Document label would read as shown below (1901 JONES, Mary 1884). > A photo label would read: 1901 JONES, Mary 1884 NoWords x 400% 600Res > which means scanned 4 times the original size with 600DPI Resolution. > > I also have two giant external drives as two backups and DVD back ups too. > Over kill? It all works for me. > > > <snip> Donna; I've been thinking about what works for you and seeing if there are tips that I could include in my system. I do have questions. Your system works great for you, but when you send a photo to someone else, how to you label the electronic file? Do you change the filename? And if so, to what? How do you label each of the photos in the folder 1901 JONES - SMITH, Mary 1877-1924? Since family members are continually requesting images from me, I'm always looking for a better way to label the individual electronic filenames? Some of my filenames have been too long when I cut a CD. Note that I use the word images, because I also digitize birth/death certificates, etc. Any ideas would be appreciated. Thanks so much for explaining your system to all of us. -- Enjoy the Search! Thayne

At 08:22 AM 12/04/2008 -0400, you wrote: >Just Google.com search for it. > >You will find all you need--and more. Thanks for your help. Gary in Sunny Queensland, Australia. Genealogy Page <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~liddellfamily/>http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~liddellfamily/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.13/1375 - Release Date: 12/04/2008 11:32 AM

At 07:40 AM 12/04/2008 -0400, you wrote: >A quick Google search gives the answer - and this link seems particularly >helpful :- > >_http://forums.techguy.org/multimedia/517401-sndvol32-exe-missing.html_ >(http://forums.techguy.org/multimedia/517401-sndvol32-exe-missing.html) Thanks Paul. I thought I'd tried that but have dreamt it. The main thing is that it is fixed now thanks to your help. Gary in Sunny Queensland, Australia. Genealogy Page <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~liddellfamily/>http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~liddellfamily/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.13/1375 - Release Date: 12/04/2008 11:32 AM

Donna (History Buff) M. St. Felix wrote: > I believe you are referring to a post I made. > I add the space when I scan the photos doing that as an over crop of what I > want to save beyond just the photo. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: gen-comp-tips-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:gen-comp-tips-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of ray risely > Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 9:11 AM > To: Gen-Comp-Tips@Rootsweb. Com > Subject: [GEN-COMP-TIPS] Labelling photos > > Hi all, > > I believe there was talk recently about adding space under photos to add > descriptive text into. Sounds like a very good way to keep info to me > without writing on the photo itself. Well I have tried on several programs, > Photoshop 5, Gimp etc but the only program I have that does it simply is > good old PhotoImpact 10. How do you add space under the photo in other > programs? Increasing canvas size only seems to alter the size of the photo > itself. I must be missing something. Any help appreciated. > > Ray > <snip> Ray; Let me list my steps that I use. I must first explain that I use Paint.Net to scan, crop, resize, and label my photos. You can get it from http://www.getpaint.net/index.html and best of all, it's free. Using Donna's technique, here's what I do (other software steps may vary but I believe will be similar): 1) Using the File menu option I acquire an image. 2) When it asks me what I want to scan, I choose the color picture radio button and press the preview button. 3) When the preview is complete, I use the mouse to select only the portion of the image I want to scan (yes, sometimes it's the entire image). 4) This step is key: I use my mouse to increase the bottom of the image to scan (i.e., I drag the bottom border down). I believe this is what Donna means when she says she adds space to the scan. 5) I press the scan button 6) Once the image is scanned, I use the text editing tool to add text to the bottom of the image in the space provided. 7) I use the menu option, image, canvas size to change the size of the bottom of the scanned image (this reduces the area of the space below the text I have added in case there is too much white space). 8) Save the image and done. As a side note: As part of the labeling I use the [source] designation to indicate where I obtained the image. This has proved very valuable in several areas. I have a cousin who visited with me and shared some photos which we scanned. I then sent him the scanned images. When he saw that I had given him credit for the source, he was really touched. And since then he has been willing to share many more images. Just thought I would share that in our rush to document everything, a little kindness along the way helps everyone. -- Enjoy the Search! Thayne