Virginia, >Possibly, I should not have termed it in that way. However, I consider >anything besides the text necessary to supply the data as junk. In many >online setups there are tables and colored background and other extraneous >material. All of it takes up space in your computer and can become a >problem. I remove all of it and keep only the text of the data I want. I >have found notepad to be a very handy tool. But unless your saving the web page, you wouldn't get all the "extra" formatting. >When I am compiling CDs of images of actual records, I use notepad to make >my indexes. When doing marriage records I can scan a record, have notepad >open in two windows and do a brides index in one and a grooms index in the >other. When I have completed the indexes I drop each of them into Word and >sort them into alphabetical order and my indexes are done. Then they can >be linked to the images. You may want to check out this free alternative to NotePad. It has many addition features such as allowing you to have more than one text file open at a time. It has unlimited undo and redo functions. Plus it has none of the limitations of NotePad. http://www.editpadlite.com/editpadlite.html Take a look at it! Art

Virginia, I would start here. http://www.wdvl.com/Authoring/ Art Is there anyone on the list who is knowledgable of searchable databases on webpages? I would like to know what programs to use and how to best set it up. >Regards, >Virginia L. Aldridge >Genealogy Resources >www.genealogy-resources.net

Don't know if this will work in OE, but on some sites if you hold down the Alt key while you strike the f key and popup will show up and highlight what you are looking for. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane Gillespie" <gillespie4491@bellsouth.net> To: <GEN-COMP-TIPS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2004 12:31 PM Subject: [Gen-Comp-Tips] Searching for a word in E-mail Message > I have MS OE 6. Windows 98SE.I use the "preview message pane" At times I > need to search a e-mail that I have received for a surname. How do I do > that?? > > I see the "find" icon at the top of the screen.All I can figure out there is > to find a specific message. I would like to find a word in a certain > message.. Any way to do that?? Thanks!! > > Jane McCombs Gillespie > gillespie4491@bellsouth.net > McComb/McCombs in SC AL MS > Gillespie/Glaspy in SC > Hopewell Presbyterian CH McCormick Co SC > > > ==== GEN-COMP-TIPS Mailing List ==== > Cyndi's List of Genealogy Sites of the Internet: > http://www.cyndislist.com > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

I have MS OE 6. Windows 98SE.I use the "preview message pane" At times I need to search a e-mail that I have received for a surname. How do I do that?? I see the "find" icon at the top of the screen.All I can figure out there is to find a specific message. I would like to find a word in a certain message.. Any way to do that?? Thanks!! Jane McCombs Gillespie gillespie4491@bellsouth.net McComb/McCombs in SC AL MS Gillespie/Glaspy in SC Hopewell Presbyterian CH McCormick Co SC

Hello Marie , I am very happy to see your post !! , I has thinking maybe I am only ONE of 7 billion people that has trouble with that ' prog ' , Being reasonable ' alive ' able to dress and feed myself , I figure I could master a simple zipper prog , But it was not to be ! , I wonder how many others are hiding , afraid to see the light of ' confession ' Speak now people , Be not afraid , You will not suffer ! , Phil ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marie Peer" <peer@mindspring.com> To: <GEN-COMP-TIPS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2004 7:19 AM Subject: RE: [Gen-Comp-Tips] Which file compression program is best/free? > Good Morning Phil and Lance and List, > > I've not said anything because Phil has been saying it so well. I simply > have not been able to make zip files work and WinZip is the program I've not > been able to make work. > > I've always figured it's just me and decided a couple of years ago that life > can go on without zip files. Amazingly it has. > > I can not tell you what I did, what didn't work nor other details. I've > suppressed all of it although psychotherapy might bring it all back if I > were willing to face the trauma. > > I'm grateful to the list for giving me the start of courage to have a go at > zip files once more. Phil, shall we start a Support Group for those who > can't make WinZip work? We could be the founding members. > > Marie > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lance [mailto:hty31b5@hotmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 9:29 PM > To: GEN-COMP-TIPS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: RE: [Gen-Comp-Tips] Which file compression program is > best/free? > > > Thanks for your (interesting) feedback, Phil. Your answer was > predictable. It is strange that no one else seems to have had those > problems with WinZip, or if they have had, they haven't reported it. At > least you seem to be able manage the necessary tasks with Bigspeed so > that's good. > > Lance > > -----Original Message----- > From: Phil Stevens [mailto:joe2phil@drizzle.com] > Sent: Friday, 20 August 2004 03:39 > To: GEN-COMP-TIPS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [Gen-Comp-Tips] Which file compression program is > best/free? > > Hello Lance list and All that asked, Phil here: I was being 'nice'. I > did not want to get bounced from the list for using foul language. > So, insert expletive of your choice where I put 'buggy', I found the > prog to be extremely poor programming. Total lack of support, I could > not get it to function correctly. After reading the directions fifteen > time all I could usually get is a Error "Nothing to Do", OR when it > would zip up something I could not locate where it put it! After a few > frustrating tries I sent it to Cyberheaven and got PKZip, which worked > fine, until my Hard drive exploded last month. I now use Bigspeed as it > is free !! I spent 5-7 hours looking at the various progs, and settled > for it! Phil > --- > avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. > Virus Database (VPS): 0434-1, 2004-08-17 > Tested on: 20/08/2004 1:28:26 PM > avast! - copyright (c) 2000-2004 ALWIL Software. > http://www.avast.com > > > > > > ==== GEN-COMP-TIPS Mailing List ==== > DO NOT open unexpected file attachments from people, even if you know them. > Verify with the sender first. This may be your only line of defence, other > than AV Software, against mail "viruses" > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.740 / Virus Database: 494 - Release Date: 8/16/2004 > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.740 / Virus Database: 494 - Release Date: 8/16/2004 > > > ==== GEN-COMP-TIPS Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from this list send a message to GEN-COMP-TIPS-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM with the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message. > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

>I do not know about the download process from LDH as I do not use it to >gather my data, since it brings too much junk with it. Could I ask what kind of "junk" you are referring to? I have used the LDS site for years without any problems or downloading extras. Art

Be sure you are in the "box" you want to search. Click the Find button in the toolbar or go to Edit > Find and choose the option : Message will search all folders and "Message in this folder" is just that. Do not enter anything in the top three fields: From, To or Subject unless you are sure about it. Enter the word you want to find in the message field, set the time limits and click new search. I can't seem to get the Find in this folder to find the second instance, unless I use the "Advanced find" button. Alfred D. Eller RootsMagic-Users-Admin@RootsWeb.com ================ ============== ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane Gillespie" <gillespie4491@bellsouth.net> To: <GEN-COMP-TIPS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2004 12:31 PM Subject: [Gen-Comp-Tips] Searching for a word in E-mail Message > I have MS OE 6. Windows 98SE.I use the "preview message pane" At times I > need to search a e-mail that I have received for a surname. How do I do > that?? > > I see the "find" icon at the top of the screen.All I can figure out there is > to find a specific message. I would like to find a word in a certain > message.. Any way to do that?? Thanks!! > > Jane McCombs Gillespie > gillespie4491@bellsouth.net > McComb/McCombs in SC AL MS > Gillespie/Glaspy in SC > Hopewell Presbyterian CH McCormick Co SC >

Joan, >I've just tried it, IE that is, and no it didn't try to dial up. I'm using >Win2000. > >Joan in South Yorkshire There are two places to check your account settings within Outlook to see if you old account is still there. If it is in either/both, it needs to be removed. 1> Tools > Accounts > Mail 2> Tools > Options > Connection > Change tab. Hope this helps? Art

Hello Group, When going to different websites I find that I am getting a dialogue box asking about debugging. I can not seem to figure out this problem. Do not know what it is referring to or what it means. Could someone please enlighten me? This did not happen with Windows 98, now I am using XP and this seem to be when it started. Regards, Virginia

Hello, list I have been meaning to join this list for some time, to lurk and learn, but I now have a problem that I'd like advice on. When searching the IGI for wanted names, I now find that when I check the wanted records, and try to prepare them for downloading, the action is aborted. The download screen (which would give the number of records selected etc) briefly appears and then vanishes. If I click again the program says "No records selected" and I find that my selections have become unchecked. It is a while since I tried to download from this site, but I used to find it straightforward. The only things that have changed in the meantime are that I now have a PC running Windows XP instead of 98, and I have recently installed the Zone Alarm Pro firewall and associated applications. The only thing I could think to do was to temporarily disable the firewall (which seemed pointless) but no that had no effect. Can anyone advise me, please? Ron Cheltenham, UK

Good Morning Phil and Lance and List, I've not said anything because Phil has been saying it so well. I simply have not been able to make zip files work and WinZip is the program I've not been able to make work. I've always figured it's just me and decided a couple of years ago that life can go on without zip files. Amazingly it has. I can not tell you what I did, what didn't work nor other details. I've suppressed all of it although psychotherapy might bring it all back if I were willing to face the trauma. I'm grateful to the list for giving me the start of courage to have a go at zip files once more. Phil, shall we start a Support Group for those who can't make WinZip work? We could be the founding members. Marie -----Original Message----- From: Lance [mailto:hty31b5@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 9:29 PM To: GEN-COMP-TIPS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [Gen-Comp-Tips] Which file compression program is best/free? Thanks for your (interesting) feedback, Phil. Your answer was predictable. It is strange that no one else seems to have had those problems with WinZip, or if they have had, they haven't reported it. At least you seem to be able manage the necessary tasks with Bigspeed so that's good. Lance -----Original Message----- From: Phil Stevens [mailto:joe2phil@drizzle.com] Sent: Friday, 20 August 2004 03:39 To: GEN-COMP-TIPS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Gen-Comp-Tips] Which file compression program is best/free? Hello Lance list and All that asked, Phil here: I was being 'nice'. I did not want to get bounced from the list for using foul language. So, insert expletive of your choice where I put 'buggy', I found the prog to be extremely poor programming. Total lack of support, I could not get it to function correctly. After reading the directions fifteen time all I could usually get is a Error "Nothing to Do", OR when it would zip up something I could not locate where it put it! After a few frustrating tries I sent it to Cyberheaven and got PKZip, which worked fine, until my Hard drive exploded last month. I now use Bigspeed as it is free !! I spent 5-7 hours looking at the various progs, and settled for it! Phil --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0434-1, 2004-08-17 Tested on: 20/08/2004 1:28:26 PM avast! - copyright (c) 2000-2004 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com ==== GEN-COMP-TIPS Mailing List ==== DO NOT open unexpected file attachments from people, even if you know them. Verify with the sender first. This may be your only line of defence, other than AV Software, against mail "viruses" ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.740 / Virus Database: 494 - Release Date: 8/16/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.740 / Virus Database: 494 - Release Date: 8/16/2004

Janet, there are a couple of things you can do to speed up the return to the HOME page. The easiest way is to press ALT-HOME (the HOME key is on your keyboard on the right). Another way is to click on the IE icon showing in your taskbar at the bottom of the screen. I will reveal a menu showing all the current open screens - select your HOME page. The other and more secure way is to use OPERA. Opera "tabs" all open pages across the top of your screen so it's just a simple matter of selecting the HOME one: www.opera.com Opera is a far more secure browser than IE and is faster in its approach to searching. Lance -----Original Message----- From: Janet Yancey [mailto:jjc@gvtc.com] Sent: Friday, 20 August 2004 23:44 To: GEN-COMP-TIPS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Gen-Comp-Tips] Genealogy Search Question As an example, I am subscribed to Ancestry.com. When I am ready to "back-out" of the Program. Do you do the following? 1. Hit the "back arrow" in the left corner, and continue to back out and return to your home page. OR 2. Just hit the "Home Page" button at the top of your screen, i.e.: MSN, etc. Sometime I am so far into searching, it takes me quiet a while to back out and go back to my home page. Thanks, Janet --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0434-2, 2004-08-20 Tested on: 21/08/2004 8:02:52 AM avast! - copyright (c) 2000-2004 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com

Ron, I do not know about the download process from LDH as I do not use it to gather my data, since it brings too much junk with it. What I do is: Open notepad You can toggle between notepad and the Family Search site by clicking the icon on the status bar at the bottom of the page Highlight all the data on the page that I want to obtain Click Ctrl+C to copy the material Place your cursor in notepad Click Ctrl+V and it pastes the highlighted data into notepad You can copy one page at a time; one after the other into notepad. When you have all the information you plan to obtain; you can either save it to the My doucments section or put it into any program that accepts text. Notepad is a handy little program that comes on Windows based systems and when you copy tables and colored selections into it, you only get the text. If you are interested, play with it and see if it will help you do what you need. There are many keystrokes that make things much easier here is a list of some of them: ALT + TAB -- Cycles through open applications CTRL + ESC -- Brings up Start menu CTRL + Z -- Undo CTRL + Y -- Redo CTRL + A -- Select all CTRL + C -- Copies selected material CTRL + V -- Pastes selected material Good Luck, Virginia L. Aldridge Genealogy Resources www.genealogy-resources.net

Ron, Welcome to the list. The problem that you are having may be caused by a pop-up blocker, at least that is what it sounds like. Try turning it off and see if that helps. Art >I have been meaning to join this list for some time, to lurk and learn, but I >now have a problem that I'd like advice on. > >When searching the IGI for wanted names, I now find that when I check the >wanted records, and try to prepare them for downloading, the action is >aborted. The download screen (which would give the number of records selected >etc) briefly appears and then vanishes. If I click again the program says "No >records selected" and I find that my selections have become unchecked. > >It is a while since I tried to download from this site, but I used to find it >straightforward. The only things that have changed in the meantime are that I >now have a PC running Windows XP instead of 98, and I have recently installed >the Zone Alarm Pro firewall and associated applications. > >The only thing I could think to do was to temporarily disable the firewall >(which seemed pointless) but no that had no effect. > >Can anyone advise me, please? > >Ron >Cheltenham, UK

Hi, I am now on broadband, but whenever I open Outlook Express, the old dial up screen appears. Is it possible to get rid of this? Joan in South Yorkshire

Thanks for that Heather Martin ----- Original Message ----- From: "heather smith" <heather.smith983@ntlworld.com> To: <GEN-COMP-TIPS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 8:38 PM Subject: @CHECK Re: $CHECK Re: [Gen-Comp-Tips] (Gen-Comp-Tips) Uft to TMG v. 5 > Hi Martin, If you haven't seen it the August Family Tree Magazine is > giving away a disc with Complete Reading 1891 census, Hampshire Parish > Records Volumn 1 and RootsMagic V2 Demo. I have been familiarising myself > with RootsMagic and am impressed. I think it will be my choice rather than > TMG. as you don't need a degree to navigate. Heather > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Martin ADAMS" <martin@adams3606.fsnet.co.uk> > To: <GEN-COMP-TIPS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 7:20 PM > Subject: Re: @CHECK Re: [Gen-Comp-Tips] (Gen-Comp-Tips) Uft to TMG v. 5 > > > > Art > > I know you addressed this to Heather but I would be very interested in > your > > opinion of RootsMagic. I am currently using FTM and am looking for > something > > a little more intuitive. Would RootsMagic fit my bill do you think? > > Regards > > > > Martin > > > > > > ==== GEN-COMP-TIPS Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from this list send a message to GEN-COMP-TIPS-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM with the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message. > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

Thanks Lance for the information! Will look at Opera. Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lance" <hty31b5@hotmail.com> To: <GEN-COMP-TIPS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 5:03 PM Subject: RE: [Gen-Comp-Tips] Genealogy Search Question > Janet, there are a couple of things you can do to speed up the return to > the HOME page. > > The easiest way is to press ALT-HOME (the HOME key is on your keyboard > on the right). > > Another way is to click on the IE icon showing in your taskbar at the > bottom of the screen. I will reveal a menu showing all the current open > screens - select your HOME page. > > The other and more secure way is to use OPERA. Opera "tabs" all open > pages across the top of your screen so it's just a simple matter of > selecting the HOME one: www.opera.com > Opera is a far more secure browser than IE and is faster in its approach > to searching. > > Lance > > -----Original Message----- > From: Janet Yancey [mailto:jjc@gvtc.com] > Sent: Friday, 20 August 2004 23:44 > To: GEN-COMP-TIPS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [Gen-Comp-Tips] Genealogy Search Question > > As an example, I am subscribed to Ancestry.com. When I am ready to > "back-out" of the Program. Do you do the following? > > 1. Hit the "back arrow" in the left corner, and continue to back out > and return to your home page. OR > > 2. Just hit the "Home Page" button at the top of your screen, i.e.: > MSN, etc. > > Sometime I am so far into searching, it takes me quiet a while to back > out and go back to my home page. > > Thanks, Janet > > > --- > avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. > Virus Database (VPS): 0434-2, 2004-08-20 > Tested on: 21/08/2004 8:02:52 AM > avast! - copyright (c) 2000-2004 ALWIL Software. > http://www.avast.com > > > > > > ==== GEN-COMP-TIPS Mailing List ==== > DO NOT open unexpected file attachments from people, even if you know them. Verify with the sender first. This may be your only line of defence, other than AV Software, against mail "viruses" > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > >

In a message dated 20/08/2004 17:33:35 GMT Daylight Time, wconner@onemain.com writes: The best thing you can do is go to http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/LegacyLists.asp join the List and ask your question. Walt Conner Thanks for the advice Walt. Robin

Thanks for your (interesting) feedback, Phil. Your answer was predictable. It is strange that no one else seems to have had those problems with WinZip, or if they have had, they haven't reported it. At least you seem to be able manage the necessary tasks with Bigspeed so that's good. Lance -----Original Message----- From: Phil Stevens [mailto:joe2phil@drizzle.com] Sent: Friday, 20 August 2004 03:39 To: GEN-COMP-TIPS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Gen-Comp-Tips] Which file compression program is best/free? Hello Lance list and All that asked, Phil here: I was being 'nice'. I did not want to get bounced from the list for using foul language. So, insert expletive of your choice where I put 'buggy', I found the prog to be extremely poor programming. Total lack of support, I could not get it to function correctly. After reading the directions fifteen time all I could usually get is a Error "Nothing to Do", OR when it would zip up something I could not locate where it put it! After a few frustrating tries I sent it to Cyberheaven and got PKZip, which worked fine, until my Hard drive exploded last month. I now use Bigspeed as it is free !! I spent 5-7 hours looking at the various progs, and settled for it! Phil --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0434-1, 2004-08-17 Tested on: 20/08/2004 1:28:26 PM avast! - copyright (c) 2000-2004 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com

Joan, >Hi, >I am now on broadband, but whenever I open Outlook Express, the old dial up >screen appears. Is it possible to get rid of this? > >Joan in South Yorkshire Yes, it is possible. First please answer a couple of questions. 1> Does it look for the info when you start Internet Explorer also? 2> What operating system are you using (Win98, 2000, XP)? Art