Hi Art, I hope I haven't missed anything here, but is there a reason you buy the CD rather than downloading the update from Microsoft's website? I have always just downloaded them for free, then figured if I ever needed them again, I could just download them once again. Is my thinking flawed? Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "dolphin213" <dolphin213@cox.net> To: <GEN-COMP-TIPS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 6:59 PM Subject: [Gen-Comp-Tips] XP SP2 CD > > I ordered my CD version the same day I posted the availability of it to the > list. > > My CD arrived today. If you ordered it promptly, expect it soon. > > If you have not ordered, I strongly suggest you do so. Here is the link > again. > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/updates/sp2/cdorder/en_us/defau lt.mspx > > Art > > >

Before doing so make sure you have a good popup stopper or you will be bombarded with them at some of the "free" clip art sites. Also be aware that some of popups will try and take you to adult materials. Just take this from someone who's "been there." dolphin213 wrote on 9/1/2004, 7:50 PM: > > Janet, > > If you do a 'google search' on "clip art & free", you will find 3,620,000 > results that you can download from. I'm sure in that many results, > you'll > find something to your liking better than what is offered from the > Microsoft collection. > > Art > > > >Ken, I have a new Compaq computer, MS-XP, MS-Word Version 7. > >The site you sent is too early for my program. >

I ordered my CD version the same day I posted the availability of it to the list. My CD arrived today. If you ordered it promptly, expect it soon. If you have not ordered, I strongly suggest you do so. Here is the link again. http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/updates/sp2/cdorder/en_us/default.mspx Art

Janet, If you do a 'google search' on "clip art & free", you will find 3,620,000 results that you can download from. I'm sure in that many results, you'll find something to your liking better than what is offered from the Microsoft collection. Art >Ken, I have a new Compaq computer, MS-XP, MS-Word Version 7. >The site you sent is too early for my program.

Yes Terry this appears to be a big problem, I have all my photo's & family history stored on CD. & had hoped it would be available for my grandchildren, & their children, but it looks like this is not the case. & who's to know, that in 20 years time, there will be anything to read them? (WHAT DO WE STORE OUR GOODIES ON.)??? I took note that 50% of my slides had degenerated over the last 30 odd years, to a standard that would take to much time to recover. thank the lord I had taken some black & white photo's as well! then we come to all those super 8 movies what do we do with them? But what ever it is we should do it in the next few years. ever tried to get a spare for that old projector? They say even the modern paper & ink has only a life of 10 years. & our generation thinks it is so clever. I think we should take a few tips from our ancestors don't you? FOOD FOR THOUGHT, Hope some one out there can come up with a few idea's I think we are all in the same boat with this one. Regards Arthur South Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Teresa" <terry3112@dodo.com.au> To: <GEN-COMP-TIPS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 4:32 PM Subject: [Gen-Comp-Tips] WRITING TO CD-R & CD-RW > Adelaide, 31st August 2004 > > Dear List, > > I read an article in the July issue of Family History Magazine regarding the > lifespan of CD-Rs. It seems that the dyes in the recording layer fade after > as little as two years. Rewritable discs use metallic dyes and do not have > the same problem. Recordable DVDs have the same problem and "such views are > echoed by the National Archives at Kew", according to the article. > > I have been using CD-Rs for my genealogy records, but cannot find much up to > date information (that I can understand) on the web. > > What is the opinion of the list experts. > > Regards, Terry > > > ==== GEN-COMP-TIPS Mailing List ==== > DO NOT open unexpected file attachments from people, even if you know them. Verify with the sender first. This may be your only line of defence, other than AV Software, against mail "viruses" > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

That sounds like a problem with file association. The extension on these files is set to be opened with Nero, but the file isn't what Nero expects, so it can't do anything with them. Changing the file association depends on your operating system. You may be able to: Click once on the icon to highlight it, hold down the shift key while Right clicking on the icon to bring up a dropdown menu, Choose "Open With" (if it's there) Find the program that you want to open this type of file and check the box before "Always use this one" (or whatever it says.) If you do not find the "Open With" choice in the dropdown menu, you will have to check your Windows Help menu under "Extension" and, in Windows 98 I see the title: "To change which program starts when you open a file " ====== I am only guessing, but the resource file fiewer should be something you get with, or as a supliment to the census disks. If you can get the file extension to be associated with that, you should be in business. Alfred D. Eller RootsMagic-Users-Admin@RootsWeb.com ================ ============== ----- Original Message ----- From: <Macmilch@aol.com> To: <GEN-COMP-TIPS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 9:48 AM Subject: Re: [Gen-Comp-Tips] Loading a CD Census on My Computer > Bob > I get it loaded on o.k. and get 3 icons, Brit1851 census - intro16 - setup > I d.click on the setup and this takes me thro. to the "census has been > successfully installed", but when I try to open it my Nero program launches itself > and I get a message "unrecognized file format". I have never used the Nero > program. Also, I have never heard of Resource File Viewer. > Hope this helps > > John >

Bob I get it loaded on o.k. and get 3 icons, Brit1851 census - intro16 - setup I d.click on the setup and this takes me thro. to the "census has been successfully installed", but when I try to open it my Nero program launches itself and I get a message "unrecognized file format". I have never used the Nero program. Also, I have never heard of Resource File Viewer. Hope this helps John

I would not trust magnetic tape as far/long as I would a CD-R. That is similar to the tapes that the old tape recorders use. They seem to be quite particular how they are stored. Alfred D. Eller RootsMagic-Users-Admin@RootsWeb.com ================ ============== ----- Original Message ----- From: "Teresa" <terry3112@dodo.com.au> To: <GEN-COMP-TIPS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 10:10 AM Subject: Re: [Gen-Comp-Tips] WHAT DO WE STORE OUR GOODIES ON. > Adelaide, 1st September 2004 > > Dear Arthur, > > Apparently National Archives are using magnetic tape, according to the article > in Family History magazine, and expect this to last about thirty years. I > don't know how expensive this system is, it might not be within my means. > However it may be worth considering until something better comes along. > > Regards, Terry >

G'Day Charles. This would all depend of whether you wish the recipient to print it or just look at it? e.g. your screen can only see 75p per inch so if it was the latter a photo 6"x4"x75p would be sufficient, however if you wish them to print it, a good size would be 5"x3.5"x300p. Regards Arthur South Australia

Macmilch@aol.com wrote: > > I am trying to load the 3 counties LDS 1851 census on to my computer, without > much success. Could SKS tell me, in baby steps please, how this should be > done? Unlike an ISP disk, it doesn't start automaticaly. Win98. > Have you first installed the Resource File Viewer? Tell us what steps you have done. bob gillis

Ken, I have a new Compaq computer, MS-XP, MS-Word Version 7. The site you sent is too early for my program. Thanks again, Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Quinn" <kquinn@cam.org> To: <GEN-COMP-TIPS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 5:43 PM Subject: Re: [Gen-Comp-Tips] Windows XP Question > No knowing which version of Word Janet is using, I found the following link > to Microsoft's support site for help with Clip Art and Word97: > > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;157991 > > Hope that helps. > > Ken Quinn > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "shirley" <rustyshir@rustyshir.freeserve.co.uk> > To: <GEN-COMP-TIPS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 6:47 PM > Subject: Re: [Gen-Comp-Tips] Windows XP Question > > > > I can be on Publisher cd or office cd sometimes cd has to be inserted to > get > > at clip art > > Regards, > > Shirley > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Janet Yancey" <jjc@gvtc.com> > > > To: <GEN-COMP-TIPS-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 1:08 PM > > > Subject: [Gen-Comp-Tips] Windows XP Question > > > > > > > > > > I am wanting to utilize my Clip Art Gallery to set up my Scrapbook for > > the > > > Genealogy information that I have accumulated. > > > > > > > > > ==== GEN-COMP-TIPS Mailing List ==== > Cyndi's List of Genealogy Sites of the Internet: > http://www.cyndislist.com > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

Ken, I do not have MS-Office. Wish I did. I am going to try to go in to the clip art, etc. on MS, and see what I can do. Thanks for your response! Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Quinn" <kquinn@cam.org> To: <GEN-COMP-TIPS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 5:23 PM Subject: Re: [Gen-Comp-Tips] Windows XP Question > Hi Janet, > > I believe the ClipArt comes with MS-Office. Check your MS-Office > documentation and/or CD. > > I could be wrong, however. > > regards, > > Ken Quinn > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Janet Yancey" <jjc@gvtc.com> > To: <GEN-COMP-TIPS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 1:08 PM > Subject: [Gen-Comp-Tips] Windows XP Question > > > > I am wanting to utilize my Clip Art Gallery to set up my Scrapbook for the > Genealogy information that I have accumulated. > > > > I went in to open a certain art clip in the Microsoft Word/Works, Version > 7, Clip Art Gallery, and I was told that I needed to insert my "CD" in order > to download the clip art. > > > > I have no Windows XP - CD. Within my Tower, Drive D, I have 5 CD's stored > which has the complete Windows XP program. I can not get the Clip Art > Gallery to download to the program. > > > > > ==== GEN-COMP-TIPS Mailing List ==== > DO NOT open unexpected file attachments from people, even if you know them. Verify with the sender first. This may be your only line of defence, other than AV Software, against mail "viruses" > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

The slides I took forty years ago have all deteriated likewise the super8 movies I took thirty years ago. The super8s were transferred on to video but I wonder how long they will last. From: "Arthur & Stella" <starwall@optusnet.com.au> Reply-To: GEN-COMP-TIPS-L@rootsweb.com To: GEN-COMP-TIPS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Gen-Comp-Tips] WHAT DO WE STORE OUR GOODIES ON. Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2004 12:27:33 +0930 Yes Terry this appears to be a big problem, I have all my photo's & family history stored on CD. & had hoped it would be available for my grandchildren, & their children, but it looks like this is not the case. & who's to know, that in 20 years time, there will be anything to read them? (WHAT DO WE STORE OUR GOODIES ON.)??? I took note that 50% of my slides had degenerated over the last 30 odd years, to a standard that would take to much time to recover. thank the lord I had taken some black & white photo's as well! then we come to all those super 8 movies what do we do with them? But what ever it is we should do it in the next few years. ever tried to get a spare for that old projector? They say even the modern paper & ink has only a life of 10 years. & our generation thinks it is so clever. I think we should take a few tips from our ancestors don't you? FOOD FOR THOUGHT, Hope some one out there can come up with a few idea's I think we are all in the same boat with this one. Regards Arthur South Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Teresa" <terry3112@dodo.com.au> To: <GEN-COMP-TIPS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 4:32 PM Subject: [Gen-Comp-Tips] WRITING TO CD-R & CD-RW > Adelaide, 31st August 2004 > > Dear List, > > I read an article in the July issue of Family History Magazine regarding the > lifespan of CD-Rs. It seems that the dyes in the recording layer fade after > as little as two years. Rewritable discs use metallic dyes and do not have > the same problem. Recordable DVDs have the same problem and "such views are > echoed by the National Archives at Kew", according to the article. > > I have been using CD-Rs for my genealogy records, but cannot find much up to > date information (that I can understand) on the web. > > What is the opinion of the list experts. > > Regards, Terry > > > ==== GEN-COMP-TIPS Mailing List ==== > DO NOT open unexpected file attachments from people, even if you know them. Verify with the sender first. This may be your only line of defence, other than AV Software, against mail "viruses" > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > ==== GEN-COMP-TIPS Mailing List ==== DO NOT open unexpected file attachments from people, even if you know them. Verify with the sender first. This may be your only line of defence, other than AV Software, against mail "viruses" ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 _________________________________________________________________ It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger

I am trying to load the 3 counties LDS 1851 census on to my computer, without much success. Could SKS tell me, in baby steps please, how this should be done? Unlike an ISP disk, it doesn't start automaticaly. Win98. John

Hi Listers, Since adding Photoshop Elements 2 to my PC I now have a conflict when trying to open email picture files. Picture files always opened in an an older program I use called Micrografx Picture Publisher but now Outlook Express doesn't seem to know what to use. Can anyone tell me how to ensure that they open in Micrografx please? My OS is Windows XP. Any help much appreciated. Regards JUDITH NEVILLE AUSTRALIA Researching........... SNEDDON [Polmont,Stirlingshire.Lanarkshire, Mid & West Lothian] BENNIE [Polmont, Stirlingshire] GRANT [Polmont, Stirlingshire] HAIR [Ayrshire] NEILL [Ayr, Renfrew,Pt.Pirie, SA. Broken Hill, NSW]] RICHMOND [Ayr] FARROW [UK][South Australia] NEVILLE [Wokingham. Berks.Uk][.South Aust] WORLEY [London, UK][South Australia] WARREN [South Australia] DAVIES/DAVIS [Bowling Alley Point, NSW.Australia][Cincinati, OH.] HUTCHESON [Vanderburgh Co.IN.,Tarrant Co.TX.,Topeka,KS] LEWIS [Vanderburgh Co. IN, Tarrant Co. TX] MARLEY/MORLEY [Vanderburgh Co.IN.,Tarrant Co.TX]]

Terry, >I read an article in the July issue of Family History Magazine regarding the >lifespan of CD-Rs. It seems that the dyes in the recording layer fade after >as little as two years. Rewritable discs use metallic dyes and do not have >the same problem. Recordable DVDs have the same problem and "such views are >echoed by the National Archives at Kew", according to the article. > >I have been using CD-Rs for my genealogy records, but cannot find much up to >date information (that I can understand) on the web. The longevity of CD-R, CD-RW and DVD issue has been a matter of debate since their introduction. There are many factors that come into play as to how long the data will last. Such as, storage conditions, heat, cold, humidity, sunlight and even handling. Another important factor is the manufacturing. (Usually those made in Taiwan are considered better than those made in Japan. Read the small print on the label! ) The best advice is to buy a good quality CD, handle it properly and store it under the recommend conditions (ie keep it at room temperature, away from direct sunlight and store it laying flat (NOT on edge)). If the above is followed, it should last a lifetime or more. Hope this helps. Art

Adelaide, 31st August 2004 Dear List, I read an article in the July issue of Family History Magazine regarding the lifespan of CD-Rs. It seems that the dyes in the recording layer fade after as little as two years. Rewritable discs use metallic dyes and do not have the same problem. Recordable DVDs have the same problem and "such views are echoed by the National Archives at Kew", according to the article. I have been using CD-Rs for my genealogy records, but cannot find much up to date information (that I can understand) on the web. What is the opinion of the list experts. Regards, Terry

Ken, My opinion is that both options should be available. I am on several other lists where both options of reply are available. I usually use "reply" when I wish to thank someone and "reply all" when starting or contributing to a thread. There are several very knowlegeable contributors on this list, and I am sure they will continue to reply to the list and share their knowledge with mere mortals such as myself. Jennifer MacPherson. -----Original Message----- From: Ken Quinn [mailto:kquinn@cam.org] Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 1:15 PM To: GEN-COMP-TIPS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Gen-Comp-Tips] TIPS Art, As a test, I hit "Reply to all" (OE v6.00.2800.1133) and the address of the list came up twice. So I logged on to the Admin page to investigate our options. The list is setup as "Replies should go back to the list by default". If I unselect this option, then the replies go to the individuals by default. Given that this is a helpful list for many people and many of the seasoned veterans like yourself assist the less seasoned people, I am hesitant to switch what is already in place for fear that some really helpful information, from yourself for example, will be missed by the masses. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.745 / Virus Database: 497 - Release Date: 8/27/2004

Thanks Art Charles From: dolphin213 <dolphin213@cox.net> Reply-To: GEN-COMP-TIPS-L@rootsweb.com To: GEN-COMP-TIPS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Gen-Comp-Tips] Photo attachments Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 00:49:20 -0700 Charles, >Can someone suggest the ideal size to send photographs as attachments and >give me any problems that occur if they are too small? Your question is really difficult to answer. There really is no "ideal size". Generally, you would want a photo to be less than a MB in size. Different formats of a graphic file (which a photo is) would cause the file to be different sizes. So it would depend on the format used. The second part of your question is a little easier to answer. If it is to small, then the recipient must use a graphic program to zoom in on the picture to be able to see it. As a photo is enlarged, distortion is easier to see and the picture starts to show blocks. Hope this helps. Art ==== GEN-COMP-TIPS Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from this list send a message to GEN-COMP-TIPS-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM with the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message. ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 _________________________________________________________________ Want to block unwanted pop-ups? Download the free MSN Toolbar now! http://toolbar.msn.co.uk/

Thanks Lance, I have successfully transferred using the Dailt Telegraph Bootcamp Tips 309-310. I copied the message structure from Win 98 in C:\Windows\Application Data\Outlook Express\GUID\Microsoft\Outlook Express to Win XP home in C:\Docs&Settings\User\LocalSettings\ApplicationData\Identidies\GUID\Microsoft\OE Note: GUID is a complex number. If there are more than one, it is necessary in Win98 to follow each through to see where your boxes are. If this happens in the recipient machine, create an odd named box and see where a search finds it! This did not work for me the first time as it refused to copy folders.dbx. There was no clue on Lances InsideOE site, so I just did it again and it worked. Logical things, computers! The only other thing was that Yahoo tells me Lance has no account - it seems to work on alternate days. So thank you Lance! John Dowding Nayland SFK UK