I'd love to try it - but FTM won't be of any use to me until they fix their issue with irregular dates. :) Yours, Dora Smith Austin, TX [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patricia Page" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 6:15 PM Subject: Re: [GEN-COMP-TIPS] include all spouses and stepchildren > Dora > > Yes, you can print it out. With everyone in my database, it's a > ridiculous size. However, I can, for instance, print out my > Gr-grandparents ancestral tree (specifying 4 generations back) and it > prints spouses and descendants for both of their ancestors which is kind > of neat. I do have Version 2005, so not sure what the earlier > versions will do. I know the all-in-one tree started with about > Version 7. > > Patricia Page > BC Canada > > > > -------------------------------------- > Having trouble with your subscription? Contact the List Admin at > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.3/395 - Release Date: 7/21/2006

Dora FTM - go to File, then Preferences, then click on Date tab. You can set the year for double dates, etc. here. This will take care of the 1696/7 issue. You can say Bef(ore), Aft(er), or Bet(ween), or even Abt (about). You may have a problem entering 1581/1590/1608, and I don't know what you would do about that! Since these seem to be estimates or guesses, they perhaps don't qualify as facts? Patricia Page BC Canada

Hi Dora I have FTM Ver 16. The following dates are accepted 22 Feb 1636/37 bef 12 Jan 1807 aft 1810 Bet. Jan 23 - Jun 04, 1819 You can do 3 date facts for 1581/ 1590/ 1608 and 1680, 23 Jun 1681, or 5 Aug 1681 They are not hidden in the notes but right on the facts page. I am sure they would not import and would have to be done individually. I think that is true of all software. They each do it different. I am not able to import Quicken into Peachtree. It will import most but not all info. Peggy

Hi Dora What do you call an irregular date. Please give several samples Thanks Peggy > I'd love to try it - but FTM won't be of any use to me until they fix > their > issue with irregular dates.

I have Windows XP and it works on my computer. I used a Gedcom to get it on this computer. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Contratto" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 2:07 PM Subject: Re: [GEN-COMP-TIPS] FTM > Gene > > I have sent you the URLs direct on where you can receive FTM advise. > > Since you have FTM 4.0 it could be a case where your current OS program > such > as Win 2000 or Win XP do not recognize FTM 4.0 since it was published long > before these operating systems were on the market. > John > > > -------------------------------------- > Having trouble with your subscription? Contact the List Admin at > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Sounds like it would do the trick. <SNIP> >I have Windows XP and it works on my computer. I used a Gedcom to get it >on > this computer.

All in one tree? Is that for printing out, or for the Web? Yours, Dora Smith Austin, TX [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patricia Page" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 3:25 PM Subject: Re: [GEN-COMP-TIPS] include all spouses and stepchildren inancestor reports > > FTM's all-in-one tree will print all spouses and descendants. You > may, however, wish to control the number of generations showed. > > Patricia Page > BC Canada > > > > -------------------------------------- > Having trouble with your subscription? Contact the List Admin at > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.3/395 - Release Date: 7/21/2006

Here is what I gathered quickly on who owns and funds FTM, to write to on chronic shortcomings of FTM. FTM's ownership is a regular web. Grin. From my collection of notes: I could use any clarification anyone can shed. But all the key players are here! -------------------------------- Genealogy.com owns FTM. FTM was developed by Genealogy.com, which was then a subsidiary of A & E television networks. Myfamily.com acquired Genealogy.com from A & E Networks in 2003. MyFamily.com evolved from ancestry.com. Broderbund owned FTM in 1998 2002 press release on FTM version 10: Broderbund was recently acquired by Riverdeep, Inc. press release on FTM version 11, 9/29/03 (which I thought was brand new) Riverdeep - publisher of Broderbund brand productivity products. Their wording, not mine. Own the MyFamily.com network of internet properties, which includes: MyFamily.com, Ancestry.com, Genealogy.com, Rootsweb.com Ancestry.com is run by competent people, and Rootsweb is run by competent people who care. It might be worth asking them who at Riverdeep would be best to work with to fix the problems with FTM. Riverdeep in Novato CA and Dublin Ireland. Owns The Print Shop. Owns Broderbund and The Learning Company, Edmark Products, Destination Success. Its executives may have more of a focus and experience with education than genealogy. One marketing guy is from Dell, whose ideas of quality are interesting. Broderbund headquarters at Novado, CA. Offices in Dallas, Hiawatha, Iowa, and Woburn, Massachusetts. History of Broderbund. In 2002, Riverdeep bought Broderbund from Gores Technology Group in LA. Gores nurses failing companies to health then sells them. Gores bought Broderbund from Mattel, Inc., in 2000; or rather, Gores bought from Mattel The Learning Company of which Broderbund was part. Broderbund was founded in 1980 by brothers Doug and Gary Carlston. The Learning Company bought Broderbund in 1998 and was a disaster. Gores took over the Learning Company, and divided it into three groups: ----> games, went to Ubi Soft on 2001 ----> The Learning Co ----> Broderbund Article from 2004 on FTM 12: Through corporate marriages and other changes, FTM has been owned or published by some combination of Banner Blue Software, Broderbund Software, the Learning Co., Mattel and Genealogy.com. Today it is parented by MyFamily.com and published by Encore Software. ---------------------------------------------- >From Wikipedia: MyFamily.com, Inc. __NOTOC__ Myfamily.com, Inc. is an Internet company based in Provo, Utah, and the largest for-profit genealogy company in the world. They run a growing network of genealogy and family-related websites, including: * Ancestry.com * Ancestry.co.uk * FamilyTreeMaker.com * Genealogy.com * HeritageMakers.com * MyFamily.com * RootsWeb.com In addition to the sites above, MyFamily.com also runs FamilyHistory.com, which contains some basic free information, but is mostly a portal to Ancestry.com. History In May 1996, Infobases, Inc. invested in Ancestry, a 13-year old print publishing company, and became its managing shareholder. Infobases later acquired 100% of Ancestry from its original founder, John Sittner. By July 1997, Paul Allen and Dan Taggart were running Ancestry as a company independent from Infobases and began building the world's largest online genealogy database and subscription service. Ancestry.com changed its name to MyFamily.com in November 1999. MyFamily.com launched in December 1998, becoming one of the fastest growing community web sites in history, gaining 1 million registered users in its first 140 days. Led by CEO Curt Allen, the company raised more than $90 million in venture capital from investors such as Intel, CMGI, AOL, Kodak, Compaq, Sorenson, Esnet, Vspring and Tango Partners. According to the New York Times (Oct 2002), sales for 2002 were projected at $62 million. 2003 sales were $99 million. It is believed that Infobase Ventures still holds a large percentage of stock in this privately-held company. [1] Heritage Makers was acquired in September 2005[8], and the Ancestry.ca website was opened on January 24, 2006[9]. In March 2006, MyFamily opened a new office in Bellevue, Washington as part of the MyFamily business unit[10]. Encounter Technologies was acquired in April 2006[11]. Heritage Makers was sold in August 2006.[citation needed --------------------------------------- 10/6/2004 Infobase Media Corporation Plans to Expand Following $1.15 Million Angel Investment SALT LAKE CITY, Oct. 4 /PRNewswire/ -- Infobase Media Corporation, a leading aggregator and marketer of digitally formatted audio and video content, today announced it has raised $1.15 million from local angel investors. Currently, Infobase Media focuses solely on the Latter-day Saint (LDS) marketplace, primarily through its business unit LDSAudio.com. LDSAudio.com, the leading distributor of audio books, talks and music in MP3 format, will continue to provide a great variety of content for members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Recently, Deseret Book Company, the largest LDS book retailer and publisher, selected LDSAudio.com as the sole distributor for hundreds of Deseret Book's bestselling audio titles and music tracks in digital audio form. The additional funding has facilitated the addition of two new members to Infobase Media's executive team. Douglas G. Smith has been named chief executive officer, and Lee Gibbons joins the staff as the chief technology officer and vice president of product development. With Paul Allen and Dan Taggart as founders, Infobase Media is destined to succeed -- just like their previous companies." Paul Allen and Dan Taggart, former Ernst & Young Entrepreneurs of the Year for Utah, founded Infobase Media Corporation in September 2003. The pair also created Infobases, Ancestry.com, MyFamily.com, and 10x Marketing. Two of their previous companies were ranked on the Inc. 500 list of fastest-growing privately held companies in the United States (Infobases in 1996 and MyFamily.com in 2003). About Infobase Media Corporation Founded in 2004, Infobase Media Corporation makes valuable text, audio and video content, in every field of human knowledge, available in digital format. Deseret Book is a strategic partner with Infobase Media for content, marketing and product distribution of text in MP3 format. Other content providers include Brigham Young University, Meridian Magazine, Excel Entertainment, Litchfield Associates, Prime Recording, Sounds of Zion, and Sound Concepts. Created by Paul Allen and Dan Taggart, the makers of Infobases, Ancestry.com(TM) and MyFamily.com(TM) and LDSAudio.com. Infobase Media is a private company funded by private investors. http://www.toolbarsoftware.com/advisors.htm Paul Allen - Managing Partner of Infobase Ventures Paul Allen is a serial/parallel entrepreneur. He has founded 2 Inc. 500 companies, MyFamily.com and Infobases, Inc, and several other internet-related businesses. He loves the world of innovation and ideas and is listed on three patent applications. He formed internet business incubator Infobase Ventures in 2002. Paul served as CEO of Infobases (a religious and educational CD-ROM publisher) from 1990-1997 and as CEO of Ancestry.com from 1997-1998. In 1998, he conceived of and helped launch the MyFamily.com service to provide private web sites for families. The efforts of the MyFamily.com founding team were recognized in the Ernst & Young 2000 Entrepreneur of the Year awards and by Technology Marketing Magazine who named MyFamily.com the Viral Marketing company of the year. Paul works with angel investors and venture capital firms to raise money for his companies. He has taught internet business formation classes at Utah Valley State College and serves on the Board of the Utah Valley Entrepreneurial Forum. He is a popular speaker at business schools and internet conferences. He spent an exciting 19 months in Silicon Valley during the height of the Internet boom. In 1999 Paul opened MyFamily.com's San Francisco office and worked there in various roles until 2001. He championed the acquisitions of Rootsweb and Ah-ha, a pay-per-click search engine, while VP of Corporate Development. After returning to Utah in 2001 to help the company raise its final round of venture capital, Paul served as Vice President Marketing, managing all internet subscription efforts for Ancestry.com. In 2004, MyFamily.com's revenue reached $123 million. The company has been profitable since late 2001. ------------------------- PROVO, Utah, Sept. 19 2005 /PRNewswire/ -- MyFamily.com, Inc., the leading network for connecting families with their histories and with one another, announced today the appointment of Tim Sullivan as the company's president and chief executive officer. A rapidly growing Internet business, MyFamily helps individuals find the people most important to them and to share their unique family stories. In his new role Sullivan will be responsible for the direction, overall financial performance, and all operational functions of the company. Sullivan most recently was chief executive officer for Match.com, the global leader in online dating and an operating business of IAC/InterActiveCorp. Under Sullivan's leadership, Match.com achieved recognition as the clear leader in the U.S. online dating market, while expanding globally into 29 local language dating markets. Prior to joining Match.com, Sullivan served as vice president of e-commerce for Ticketmaster's predecessor, Ticketmaster Online-Citysearch, Inc. Before joining Ticketmaster, Sullivan spent seven years at The Walt Disney Company... >From MyFamilyInc.com Management Team Key Contacts Julia Burgon Coltrin & Associates for Ancestry.com Phone: (212) 221-1616 ext. 124 Email: [email protected] Management Tim Sullivan President and Chief Executive Officer David H. Rinn Chief Financial Officer Daren Thayne Chief Technology Officer Katherine R. Lofft General Counsel Michael Graff Senior Vice President, Product Andrew Wait Senior Vice President of Marketing PROVO, Utah, March 27 /PRNewswire/ -- MyFamily.com, Inc., the leading network for connecting families on the Web, announced today the appointment of Andrew Wait as Senior Vice President of Marketing. Andrew was most recently Senior Director of Marketing, at Kodak Gallery (formerly known as Ofoto), an online photo printing and sharing network. Contact MyFamily MyFamily.com, Inc. Corporate 360 West 4800 North Provo, UT 84604 Phone: 801-705-7000 FAX: 801-705-7001 [email protected] MyFamily.com, Bellevue Washington Office 11100 NE 8th Street, Suite 840 Bellevue, Washington 98004 Phone: 425-283-4000 FAX: 425-283-4001 [email protected] MyFamily.com, London, UK Office 26-28 Hammersmith Grove Hammersmith London W6 7BA Phone: (0) 208-834-1010 FAX: (0) 208-834-1110 [email protected] ------------------------------------------------------ >From Riverdeep website: Contact Us - Corporate Headquarters Riverdeep United States Corporate Headquarters: Riverdeep Inc., A Limited Liability Company 100 Pine Street, Suite 1900 San Francisco, CA 94111 Main Number: 415.659.2000 General Fax: 415.659.2020 E-mail: [email protected] Riverdeep Inc., A Limited Liability Company 222 3rd Ave SE, 4th Floor Cedar Rapids, IA 52401 Main Number: 319.395.9626 General Fax: 319.395.0217 Purchase Orders Fax: 800.567.2714 School Sales Phone: 888.242.6747 School Sales Fax: 800.567.2714 Ireland Corporate Headquarters: Riverdeep Interactive Learning Ltd Styne House Upper Hatch Street Dublin 2 Phone: 353 1 6707570 Fax: 353 1 6707626 Riverdeep Development Studio Digital Exchange Building Sugar House Lane Bellevue Dublin 8 United Kingdom Riverdeep UK Ltd Richmond House Heath Road Hale WA14 2XP Tel: 0845 050 2400 Fax: 0871 661 4779 E-mail: [email protected] www.riverdeep-learning.co.uk Founded in 1995, Riverdeep Inc., A Limited Liability Company, has offices in San Francisco, California, Cedar Rapids, Iowa, Dublin, Ireland and Manchester, United Kingdom. It is the fastest growing education and consumer software company in the United States. Barry O'Callaghan - Executive Chairman & Chief Executive Officer Barry O'Callaghan is Chairman, CEO and controlling shareholder of Riverdeep Holdings PLC. He has served as CEO of Riverdeep since 1999. Jim Ruddy - Chief Revenue Officer Jim Ruddy is Chief Revenue Officer at Riverdeep with responsibility for all major revenue producing divisions within the company. Tony Mulderry - Executive Vice President, Corporate Development Tony Mulderry is responsible for all corporate development initiatives at Riverdeep Ciara Smyth - Executive Vice President, Global Business Operations Ciara Smyth is Executive Vice President at Riverdeep with primary responsibility for leading all aspects of the company's global human resource function Fiona O'Carroll - Executive Vice President, Marketing and Development Fiona O' Carroll is Executive Vice President, Marketing and Development with responsibility for all aspects of the company's marketing and product development functions across all channels. Ms. O'Carroll has a proven track record of success in product development, marketing and operational roles within the international software industry. Ms. O' Carroll joined Riverdeep in October 2002. She has extensive experience in the educational software market and has worked with brands such as Knowledge Adventure, Math Blaster and ADi. Prior to joining Riverdeep, Ms O'Carroll enjoyed similar success managing a global product development center for Vivendi Universal. Ms. O' Carroll is a graduate of Trinity College, Dublin, Ireland where she received a Masters in Management Practice and a BSc in Marketing. Fiona O'Carroll Executive Vice President & General Manager, Dublin Fiona O'Carroll joined Riverdeep in October 2002 with over 10 years of senior management experience and a proven track record of success in product development, marketing and operational roles within the international software industry. Ms. O'Carroll also has extensive experience in the educational software market having managed a global product development center for Vivendi Universal and worked with brands such as Knowledge Adventure, Math Blaster and Adi. Ms. O'Carroll has a Masters in Management Practise and a BSc (Marketing) from Trinity College Dublin. Jessica Lindl Vice President, Marketing Riverdeep Joe Roberts, Riverdeep president of worldwide product development and marketing. Shows up in press releases from 2003, released from San Francisco, CA. 1. Riverdeep|About Us|Executive Team www.riverdeep.com/about_us/investor_relations/investor_relations_execu Published on: 6/10/2003 Last Visited: 6/10/2003 Joe Roberts President, Worldwide Publishing & Marketing Joe Roberts joined Riverdeep in August 2002 following the acquisition of Broderbund where he served as President. Mr. Roberts brings a decade of software development and management experience to Riverdeep. As President of Broderbund, he was responsible for all aspects of the business including strategic direction, growth, and profitability. Mr. Roberts has held senior management positions in the software industry including Executive Vice President and General Manager of The Learning Company, Senior Vice President of Productivity Software at Mattel Interactive, and Vice President of Software Development at Mindscape. Prior to Mindscape, Mr. Roberts spent four years at Charles Schwab where he led the Software Product Development teams in developing and marketing StreetSmart and www.Schwab.com. Mr. Roberts holds a B.A. in Economics from U.C. Davis. Garrett Power - Chief Financial Officer Garrett Power is Chief Financial Officer at Riverdeep with responsibility for overseeing all finance functions including planning, internal and external reporting, tax, treasury, accounting and all legal relationships. Gail Pierson - Chief Education Officer Gail Elizabeth Pierson is currently serving as the Chief Education Officer Scott L. Campbell - Executive Vice President for Strategic Sales Scott Campbell joined Riverdeep in March 2006 as executive vice president for strategic sales. A 20-year veteran of the technology industry, Mr. Campbell's responsibilities are to develop and execute a national sales strategy expanding Riverdeep sales throughout the U.S. Mr. Campbell joined Riverdeep, from Dell, Inc. where he was the vice president for education sales and was responsible for successfully expanding Dell's sales and marketing leadership in K-12. Yours, Dora Smith Austin, TX [email protected] -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.3/395 - Release Date: 7/21/2006

Dora Yes, you can print it out. With everyone in my database, it's a ridiculous size. However, I can, for instance, print out my Gr-grandparents ancestral tree (specifying 4 generations back) and it prints spouses and descendants for both of their ancestors which is kind of neat. I do have Version 2005, so not sure what the earlier versions will do. I know the all-in-one tree started with about Version 7. Patricia Page BC Canada

I've run up against a strange and unexpected deficiency in most of the more popular genealogical programs. They don't print all the spouses and all the children in ancestor reports. They most often argue it is prohibitively difficult, but they have no trouble including that informaiton in descendancy reports. People need to know what programs they can use to print all the family information in ancestor reports, and knowing people have ways to get their complete ancestor reports could shake the software developers into fixing their act. This is one of those strange critical deficiencies about which people have been complaining for years, and they're stone deaf. The existence of effective competition typically has wondrous curative effects on deafness. The following is from an ahnentafel chart by PAF Companion. Really an ancestor report. The formatting does not come through well in text format. --------------------------------------------- 20. Eli5 Thompson , born 4 Dec 1770 in Mill Creek, New CAstle, DE; died 19 Sep 1840 in London Britain, Chester, PA, son of 34. Daniel Thompson and 35. Elizabeth Chambers . He married (1) on 11 Jun 1798 in London Grove, Chester, PA 21. Elizabeth Wilson , born 16 Jul 1777 in "of" London Grove; died 11 3rd mo 1803 in New Garden Mtg, Chester, PA, daughter of 36. Ephraim Wilson and 37. Elizabeth Johnson ; (2) on 19 Aug 1806 in New Garden, Chester, PA Sarah Scarlett , died 1 Mar 1859 in London Britain, Chester, PA. Notes for Eli Thompson settled in White Clay Creek, it may have belonged to New Garden at the time as part of New Garden was absorbed into London Britain. b 2/4/1770 MC settled WC m (1) LG m (2) 1806 NG d 9/19/1840 Inconsistency of dates and a registration omission leave it unknown which of the two wives was Ezra's mother. It strongly appears that Ezra's mother was Elizabeth Wilson, who died giving birth to him or soon after, in early 1804. Eli Thompson b 12/4/1700 Mill Creek m (1) 6/11/1798, Elizabeth Wilson m (2) 8/19/1806 Sarah Scarlett Settled in WC, I don't now when, d 9/19/1840, family records at New Garden mm. Eli seems to have been a very quiet person. I don't know what role he may have played in his meeting. But he signed the wedding certificate only of one of his brothers. This means the only wedding he ever went to of his small, close-knit community was that of one of his brothers. All present signed a Quaker wedding certificate, and that was almost always alot of people; usually from half to most of the members of the meeting. Notes for Elizabeth Wilson Elizabeth Wilson b 7/16/1777 d "11, 3rd mo, 1803" (New Garden meeting records) Translate: January 11, 1803. I think it possible she really died January 11, 1804, but so far cannot confirm. If she died in 1803, Ezra was born to a ghost, or else illegitimately several years before his father remarried. This is exactly how it is recorded in the New Garden meeting records, and because it appears to be mistaken, it is important to preserve it exactly as the Quaker clerk wrote it. The Quaker calendar differed from the English calendar by two months, and I've never seen an explanation of what happened when the Quaker and English calenders were in different years; people must have gotten very confused constantly. Further, people write the previous year all of the time when writing dates in early January. I think she really died on January 11, 1804, the only logical way to account for Ezra's birth in 1804. Eli didn't marry his second wife until August, 1806! Ezra's birth is not recorded in the New Garden records, though a Miller genealogy says Ezra was a son of Eli, and Eli passed some of his land on White Clay Creek to Ezra upon Ezra's marriage, and both naming patterns and patterns of family political participation as well as the fact that Ezra became an Orthodox Quaker make it clear that Ezra was close kin to Eli. I suspect Elizabeth died of giving birth to Ezra. Her death is recorded, but they would have had a funeral, the abnormally quiet, probably depressed father forgot to register the birth of his son! In addition, Ezra's birth is not recorded at ANY Quaker meeting, to anyone- and he was a Quaker. Children of Eli Thompson and Elizabeth Wilson were as follows: i Joel4 Thompson , born 12 Jun 1799 in London Britain, Chester, PA. He married (1) on 11 May 1829 in New London, Chester, PA Rachel Spencer , born 14 Jun 1803 in prob New Garden, New London, Chester, PA; died 24 Feb 1851 in New Garden, Chester, PA; (2) bef 1827 in Chester Co, PA Mary Matlack (Hickman) , died in West Chester, PA. Notes: settled in New Garden Township. ii Daniel4 Thompson , born 13 Mar 1801 in London Britain, Chester, PA; died 25 Jul 1868 in London Britain, Chester, PA. She married bef 1826 in New Garden, Chester, PA Beulah C. or G. Hughes , born 1802 in Chester County, PA; died 1882 in London Britain, Chester, PA. Notes: Daniel and/or Ezra were the elders of the London Britain (Orthodox) Meetting. The London Britain meeting was Orthodox and starteda t about the same time as the Mill Creek Hicksite Meeting, the leader of which was a James Thompson, another member of this clan. But the Hicksite/ Quaker split was about the developing middle class (who were assimilating into the mainstream) vs traditional farmers with a more traditional outlook who in fact opposed the developing Capitalist economy as a threat to their livlihoods. Eli was one of the sons of his father whose sons and grandsons were upwardly mobile, and they went with the minority in rural Chester County orthodox position. The Orthodox Quakers held something fairly closely resembling ordinary Protestant church services, and adopted a belief in the Trinity, the Hicksites maintain to this day their traditional Quaker ways of thinking and mode of worship. 10 iii Ezra Sr.4 Thompson , born abt 1804 in London Britain, Chester, PA; died 1873 in London Britain, Chester, PA. He married prob 1832 in prob London Britain, Chester, PA Mary Webster Miller , born 17 Nov 1808 in New Garden, Chester, PA; died 1887 in London Britain, Chester, PA, daughter of John Miller and Mary Webster . iv Joshua4 Thompson , born 20 May or Jul 1786 in New Garden, Chester, PA. Children of Eli Thompson and Sarah Scarlett were as follows: i Mary4 Thompson , born 15 May 1810 in London Britain, Chester, PA. She married in 1827 in Spencer's Mtg, New London, Chester, PA Jeremiah Starr , born in New Garden, Chester, PA. ------------------------------------------- PAF Companion is made by Prodigy, though sold by LDS. It can be obtained on CD's with PAF for $8.46, at present. I paid $15 for it several years ago. A trial version that can print three generations can be downloaded for free, and you can then purchase a key to unlock full functionality from LDS by phone. PAF itself is completely free, if you download it. Prodigy makes Companions for several other common genealogical programs, and sells them. From teh examples it looks possible that they will do exactly what PAF Companion will do. Two other programs that include all the spouses and all the children for each ancestor on ancestor reports are Brothers Keeper and The Complete GEnealogy Reporter. Both are utilities that work from GEDCOM's. Brothers Keeper ancestor reports look exactly like PAF Companion's ahentafel, except that you have to do most formatting yourself in a text editor, and long irregular dates are truncated. It does successfully import and print out dual dates and dates that consist of three letter abbreviations followed by a year. TCGR does handle dates correctly. I found its format confusing, but some may find it useful. I don't fault programmers for different styles; only for idiocy. :) Yours, Dora Smith Austin, TX [email protected] -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.3/395 - Release Date: 7/21/2006

FTM's all-in-one tree will print all spouses and descendants. You may, however, wish to control the number of generations showed. Patricia Page BC Canada

Gene I have sent you the URLs direct on where you can receive FTM advise. Since you have FTM 4.0 it could be a case where your current OS program such as Win 2000 or Win XP do not recognize FTM 4.0 since it was published long before these operating systems were on the market. John

I have the 4.0 version of FTM. Long before CD-Roms. My computer continues to tell me the file is open, I can't find just where it is lurking.

John, please send the url for the BB. Thanks gene

After a computer crash I have reinstalled the Family Tree Maker program.Then I tried to download my backup family tree. I cannot get FTM to acept my file. Help needed. Any suggestions? AOL said this is a FTM problem.

Downloading is fetching a file from the big computer high in the sky. (the internet, usually) So, you have successfully reinstalled FTM. Knowing Which version might help someone help you.) And you cannot LOAD your file or restore your backup. What steps are you taking? File > Restore from Backup -- Browse to folder holding the FBK file and double click on the one you want.-- Give it a place to live and change filename if you want. Where along the path does it go wrong? and what does go wrong there? do you get any error messages? Where are your backups? on a floppy, CD or the hard drive? Your path may vary, this is the way FTM 6 does it. Alfred D. Eller http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adelr/index.htm ======================================= [email protected] wrote: > > After a computer crash I have reinstalled the Family Tree Maker program.Then > I tried to download my backup family tree. I cannot get FTM to acept my > file. Help needed. Any suggestions? AOL said this is a FTM problem. > > >

I am hoping someone more knowledgeable on this subject comes forward. My understanding is that when you send your FT file to a backup disk or floppy it becomes read only and you have to go to properties and change the setting. Not sure this is right since I have never had to return my backup files to my HD. If you do not get a good reply there is a BB that you can post questions to it and you will get expert advise on FT. Let me know and I will provide the URL to you. John in California

My thanks to all who replied re the above surge problem. Me thinks it's a new computer needed!!! Jan.

Does anyone know how I restore my defaults in Outlook Express???For some reason it doesn't have a progrram to open attachments.. Thanks Judy

Forgive me if I misunderstood your request. Default Messaging Programs To use Outlook Express from your Web browser You can set Outlook Express to be your default e-mail program, so that whenever you click an e-mail link on a Web page or choose the e-mail command in your Web browser or newsreader, Outlook Express opens. Likewise, you can set Outlook Express to be your default newsreader, so that when you click a newsgroup link on a Web page or choose the newsreader command in your Web browser, Outlook Express opens. On the Tools menu, click Options, and then click the General tab. In the Default Messaging Programs area, click Make Default for news or e-mail. or To view a file attachment In the preview pane, click the paper clip icon in the message header, and then click the file name. -or- At the top of the message window, double-click the file attachment icon in the message header. Notes To save a file attachment, on the File menu, point to Save Attachments, and then click the file name. To save the attachment from the preview pane, click the paper clip icon, and then select Save Attachments. When a message has a file attached to it, a paper clip icon is displayed next to it in the message list.