The census takers wrote the names the way they heard them. I had one ancestor whose name was Lodema and the census taker wrote it as Rodina. It took me a long time to realize there wasn't a person named Rodina. http://www.geocities.com/fcruble/velmasfamilygenealogy.html ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 7:16 AM Subject: Re: [GEN-COMP-TIPS] Errors in Ancestr... > > Errors are not always the fault of the transcriber as the original could > be > an error. My father's family could not be found in the 1920 census. It was > when I was looking for a whole different surname that I found the family. > The > census had the name as Schrantz and not Schmitz. These kind of errors > cannot be > corrected but maybe an addendum of some sort could be added. We are > dealing with the original census taker who wrote on cards. The town > clerk's office > would then transcribe the handwriting on these cards onto a larger sheet > of > paper and that is why the handwriting is so uniform for a bit - one person > did > the writing. Then the Ancestry or another group would do more > transcribing. > Lots of room for error. > > Ruth Cherecwich > > In a message dated 11/13/2006 3:03:55 AM Mountain Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > I too have found wrong info in Ancestry databases. As > I am not a subscriber, am not allowed to address the > issue? > > The mistakes I found on one census file is awful. My > Mothers family, had her fathers middle inital wrong, > three of the children's names spelled wrong, (if you > look at the actual microfilm you can enlarge it and > see that the spelling is wrong), so how does one get > this fixed? > Thank you in advance. > > > > > -------------------------------------- > Having trouble with your subscription? Contact the List Admin at > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

The census? Not Ancestry's fault - unless when you look at the actual census document you can see that they mistranscribed it, which is easy to do. Those documents are often not easy for anybody to read, adn certain letters, like n and s, are frequently misperceived. Our ancestors couldn't spell their names and often couldn't pronounce them either, and they often changed their names in quixotic ways. Census takers often mangled them. My own ancestry is full of examples. You can report Ancestry.com's errors to ancestry.com, but no way to fix errors in the census! Spelling problems and variations in ancestors' names is a common problem. You just ahve to be aware of it and search for various ways teh names might have been spelled. I have more ancestors I couldn't even find until I asked for help from people better at it, or even people expert on that family group who were albe to tell me the mispellings and variant forms that had been used with that name. Some of them are pretty wild. Yours, Dora Smith Austin, TX [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shirley" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 4:02 AM Subject: [GEN-COMP-TIPS] GEN-COMP-TIPS Digest, Vol 1,Issue 86 - Errors in Ancestry Database >I too have found wrong info in Ancestry databases. As > I am not a subscriber, am not allowed to address the > issue? > > The mistakes I found on one census file is awful. My > Mothers family, had her fathers middle inital wrong, > three of the children's names spelled wrong, (if you > look at the actual microfilm you can enlarge it and > see that the spelling is wrong), so how does one get > this fixed? > Thank you in advance. > > Shirley > -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.3/395 - Release Date: 7/21/2006

Shirley, I have a subscription to ancestry.com. Send me the incorrect and the correct information and I will see what I can do. In the 1930 census, the census taker misspelled my father's and mother's first name. Lucky they, my grandparents and uncle and aunt were living side by side. He/she (I don't remember now) spelled Otis as Odis and Mamie as Mammie, go figure. It didn't help that my brother was a Jr. Hazel At 04:02 AM 11/13/2006, you wrote: >I too have found wrong info in Ancestry databases. As >I am not a subscriber, am not allowed to address the >issue? > >The mistakes I found on one census file is awful. My >Mothers family, had her fathers middle inital wrong, >three of the children's names spelled wrong, (if you >look at the actual microfilm you can enlarge it and >see that the spelling is wrong), so how does one get >this fixed? >Thank you in advance. > >Shirley > > > 10. Living person listed as deceased on > > Ancestry.com (Hazel LeBlanc) > > > > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > >____________________________________________________________________________________ >Cheap talk? >Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. >http://voice.yahoo.com?wp_ml=0 >-------------------------------------- >Having trouble with your subscription? Contact the List Admin at >[email protected] >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message Scanned for viruses by Blue Coat http://www.WinProxy.com/

I too have found wrong info in Ancestry databases. As I am not a subscriber, am not allowed to address the issue? The mistakes I found on one census file is awful. My Mothers family, had her fathers middle inital wrong, three of the children's names spelled wrong, (if you look at the actual microfilm you can enlarge it and see that the spelling is wrong), so how does one get this fixed? Thank you in advance. Shirley > 10. Living person listed as deceased on > Ancestry.com (Hazel LeBlanc) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ____________________________________________________________________________________ Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com

At 19:47 12/11/2006, Dora Smith wrote: >Well, I suppose I could always repost my complaints every week.... Is it just me or does Our Dear Dora (Odd!!!) do just this, any way? On most Lists, too! <vbg> Phil Phil Warn ô¿ô Genealogists do it backwards Family Historians take all steps "The Warn family in Tetbury from 1722" <http://homepage.ntlworld.com/philwarn/FamHist1/index.htm>

Yep, seems that is about all my subscription allows me to do, unless I want to upgrade. gene

I am aware that Ancestry does not enter the Family Tree information. I do think they are great "carriers" once errors are entered. I have not had much luck in reaching the submitters.

Ancestry.com is good - we all make mistakes. Besides, did you join ancestry.com just to look at the family trees? Yours, Dora Smith Austin, TX [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 2:46 PM Subject: Re: [GEN-COMP-TIPS] Family Tree Maker mailing address or phonenumber >I recently subscribed to Ancestry.com. I found an awful lot of mistakes > entered concerning individuals in my Family Tree and no way to correct > them. For > instance, my brother-in-law with whom I had just had a cup of coffee was > listed as being born in 1899 and died in 1977 was quite a surprise. > Don't think I will be renewing. > gene > -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.3/395 - Release Date: 7/21/2006

I recently subscribed to Ancestry.com. I found an awful lot of mistakes entered concerning individuals in my Family Tree and no way to correct them. For instance, my brother-in-law with whom I had just had a cup of coffee was listed as being born in 1899 and died in 1977 was quite a surprise. Don't think I will be renewing. gene

At 02:46 PM 11/12/2006, you wrote: >I recently subscribed to Ancestry.com. I found an awful lot of mistakes >entered concerning individuals in my Family Tree and no way to correct >them. For >instance, my brother-in-law with whom I had just had a cup of coffee was >listed as being born in 1899 and died in 1977 was quite a surprise. >Don't think I will be renewing. >gene Gene, Was this error in one of the trees? If so, don't blame Ancestry.com, the error is the fault of the person who submitted the tree. If the name and/or e-mail address is given, e-mail the submitter. Look on the right side of the tree: "Edit person's info" and you can add the correct info, "Contact Ancestry members interested in this person", try to find other researchers to see if they know the submitter. Hazel Scanned for viruses by Blue Coat http://www.WinProxy.com/

I honestly didn't know I was complaining just often enough for my complaints to not be forgotten, Phil! Just do what I do, folks! Grin. Yours, Dora Smith Austin, TX [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Warn" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 1:53 PM Subject: Re: [GEN-COMP-TIPS] Family Tree Maker mailing addressorphonenumber/ Sybil At 19:47 12/11/2006, Dora Smith wrote: >Well, I suppose I could always repost my complaints every week.... Is it just me or does Our Dear Dora (Odd!!!) do just this, any way? On most Lists, too! <vbg> Phil Phil Warn ô¿ô Genealogists do it backwards Family Historians take all steps "The Warn family in Tetbury from 1722" <http://homepage.ntlworld.com/philwarn/FamHist1/index.htm> -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.3/395 - Release Date: 7/21/2006

Well, I suppose I could always repost my complaints every week.... FTM has gone so far downhill that I actually put more energy into complaining about Rootsmagic and Legacy, for which there is more hope. The kindest thing that can be done for the public wehre FTM is concerned is to urge people to stop buying it. Atleast unless they want a little gimmicky program that doesn't do much. We could all do genealogical software review pages and put them on our web sites. Grin. I compiled extensive information on the ownership history of FTM and its group, and how to contact the officers, adn the possible major shareholders. It is definitely true that the best way to get through to FTM is to embarrass them by telling new users how much more other programs can do. It's the only thing anyone has ever known to work. That has not, however, apparently prevented the program in general from going sharply down hill. Yours, Dora Smith Austin, TX [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Contratto" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 1:11 PM Subject: Re: [GEN-COMP-TIPS] Family Tree Maker mailing addressorphonenumber/ Sybil > Oh Dear. I think the system is designed to keep us away from anyone who > could help us. One method I have seen used it to put complains on line so > that the general public can see them. Those that I have come across don't > seem to post more than a couple within a given period. May work? Who > knows. -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.3/395 - Release Date: 7/21/2006

Thanks to all who replied to my question about difficulty with FTM disks that I own. I am especially grateful to find out about Family Tree Maker specific lists. Once again, thanks to all.

My addresses are actually for reaching the top brass - she really didn't give a clue what contact information she wanted and what for. Yours, Dora Smith Austin, TX [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.3/395 - Release Date: 7/21/2006

Oh Dear. I think the system is designed to keep us away from anyone who could help us. One method I have seen used it to put complains on line so that the general public can see them. Those that I have come across don't seem to post more than a couple within a given period. May work? Who knows. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dora Smith" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 9:36 AM Subject: Re: [GEN-COMP-TIPS] Family Tree Maker mailing address orphonenumber/ Sybil > My addresses are actually for reaching the top brass - she really didn't > give a clue what contact information she wanted and what for. > > Yours, > Dora Smith > Austin, TX > [email protected] > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > -- > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.3/395 - Release Date: 7/21/2006 > > -------------------------------------- > Having trouble with your subscription? Contact the List Admin at > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

There are five web sites that answer questions on Family Tree Programs. You select the one that best matches your problem. I have found them very useful. Have you seen them? You will find them list on this URL. http://genforum.genealogy.com/general/#computers I know these are on the same web list as this mail list but are designed to deal with FT problems only. If this posting remains in rich text (HTML) form you should be able to just click on the one that best fits your problem. a.. Family Tree Maker (by Genealogy.com) a.. Family Tree Maker: Installation FTM Installation Questions and Problems a.. Family Tree Maker: Usage and How-To Questions Get the Most Out of Your FTM Software! a.. Family Tree Maker: Printing and Formatting Trees, Charts, and Reports a.. Family Tree Maker: Searching Family Archive CDs, Family Finder Report, and the World Family Tree CDs a.. Family Tree Maker: Error Messages and Display Problems a.. FamilyTreeMaker.com Online questions regarding web browsers, user home pages, and publishing reports online John <SNIP> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doris Mathis" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 5:20 AM Subject: Re: [GEN-COMP-TIPS] Family Tree Maker mailing address or phonenumber / Sybil > Telephone Support <SNIP> ----- Original Message ----- > From: Sybil Chapman > To: Genalogy Computer Tips > Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 7:56 PM > Subject: [GEN-COMP-TIPS] Family Tree Maker mailing address or phone number > > > Would anyone know how to find such a thing? A Google search just gets pages and pages of stuff trying to sell me something or trying to find out what information I have. Blast!!!! Thanks.

Telephone Support Live phone support is available at $2.00 per minute. The phone number for live support is 800-326-8733. You will be billed for the time spent by the technical support representative on the phone answering your specific questions. Callers with issues pertaining to installation, converting data from a previous version or accessing online subscriptions may be eligible for free phone support by calling 801-705-7601 during the hours noted below (toll charges apply). Technical Support can be reached by phone Monday through Friday from 7 AM to 7 PM, and Saturday from 7 AM to 12 noon. All hours are Mountain Time, do not include holidays, and are subject to change. Have you tried their help center? Here's the URL. http://www.familytreemaker.com/help/default.aspx Doris ----- Original Message ----- From: Sybil Chapman To: Genalogy Computer Tips Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 7:56 PM Subject: [GEN-COMP-TIPS] Family Tree Maker mailing address or phone number Would anyone know how to find such a thing? A Google search just gets pages and pages of stuff trying to sell me something or trying to find out what information I have. Blast!!!! Thanks. -------------------------------------- Having trouble with your subscription? Contact the List Admin at [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.2/528 - Release Date: 11/10/2006

I have a collection of them - who or what do you want to contact? Yours, Dora Smith Austin, TX [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sybil Chapman" <[email protected]> To: "Genalogy Computer Tips" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 7:56 PM Subject: [GEN-COMP-TIPS] Family Tree Maker mailing address or phone number > Would anyone know how to find such a thing? A Google search just gets > pages and pages of stuff trying to sell me something or trying to find out > what information I have. Blast!!!! Thanks. > -------------------------------------- > Having trouble with your subscription? Contact the List Admin at > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.3/395 - Release Date: 7/21/2006

Would anyone know how to find such a thing? A Google search just gets pages and pages of stuff trying to sell me something or trying to find out what information I have. Blast!!!! Thanks.

Family Tree Maker is now owned by Ancestry.com. You can post a query to Ancestry about any of their products on this site: http://ancestry.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/ancestry.cfg/php/enduser/ask.php Select "Family Tree Maker" from the drop-down box after "Select a Product". > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > Sent: Sat, 11 Nov 2006 19:56:22 -0600 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [GEN-COMP-TIPS] Family Tree Maker mailing address or phone > number > > Would anyone know how to find such a thing? A Google search just gets > pages and pages of stuff trying to sell me something or trying to find > out what information I have. Blast!!!! Thanks. > -------------------------------------- > Having trouble with your subscription? Contact the List Admin at > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message