Unfortunately, the bots are smarter than that. They can interpret "AT", "at" and hundreds of variations just as easily as they can read "@". The most we can hope for is an email filter that keeps up with the spammers. Kraig --- [email protected] wrote: > Kay, > In order to avoid crawlers picking up your Email address you should > spell out the @ in capital letters (AT). Us humans can read it and > understand it but programs can not. > Nancy > mobanx2ATsbcgolbal.net __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Kay, In order to avoid crawlers picking up your Email address you should spell out the @ in capital letters (AT). Us humans can read it and understand it but programs can not. Nancy mobanx2ATsbcgolbal.net

Hi Kay I can't answer that specific question but I have seen email addy's as such jdoeno @ bellshouth.net And then with some note to take out the spaces. Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kay Goeggle" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 11:33 PM Subject: Re: [GEN-COMP-TIPS] GEN-COMP-TIPS > Hi list, I need some tips on how to place an email address on a web > page that cannot be picked up by spamers --does the addition of no > spam in the middle of the address really work? Any ideas > appreciated as I have been paying an additional server for that > purpose to keep the junk off my bellsouth address but not getting > enough hits right now to merit it. I have seen like > [email protected] and then the writer is suppose to know to > delete the no spam out of middle and thats how to send it?? Does it > work?? > > Kay > > > -------------------------------------- > Having trouble with your subscription? Contact the List Admin at > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

The addition of practically anything in the middle of an e-mail address works. What alot of people do is substitute something else for the @ sign - even the word at. It's best to use something people looking at the e-mail address will be able to discern that itis an e-mail address and know what to change to convert it into a working e-mail address. Yours, Dora Smith Austin, TX [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kay Goeggle" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 5:33 PM Subject: Re: [GEN-COMP-TIPS] GEN-COMP-TIPS > Hi list, I need some tips on how to place an email address on a web > page that cannot be picked up by spamers --does the addition of no > spam in the middle of the address really work? Any ideas > appreciated as I have been paying an additional server for that > purpose to keep the junk off my bellsouth address but not getting > enough hits right now to merit it. I have seen like > [email protected] and then the writer is suppose to know to > delete the no spam out of middle and thats how to send it?? Does it > work?? > > Kay > > > -------------------------------------- > Having trouble with your subscription? Contact the List Admin at > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.431 / Virus Database: 268.15.29/608 - Release Date: 12/29/2006 8:22 AM

Hi list, I need some tips on how to place an email address on a web page that cannot be picked up by spamers --does the addition of no spam in the middle of the address really work? Any ideas appreciated as I have been paying an additional server for that purpose to keep the junk off my bellsouth address but not getting enough hits right now to merit it. I have seen like [email protected] and then the writer is suppose to know to delete the no spam out of middle and thats how to send it?? Does it work?? Kay

Hi John .I had the same problem and went to the www.microsoft.com .and downloaded windows Installer CleanUp Utility package, now that was after I removed the old program then I downloaded the new Defender Program , Hope this Helps Regards Roy ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Contratto" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 8:13 AM Subject: Re: [GEN-COMP-TIPS] GEN-COMP-TIPS Digest, Vol 2, Issue 1 >I would first like to thank n.east, Brenda, and Blaisdell for their >replies. > > I found after I posted my message to the list that there was a second > window > message that referred to 0x800106ba. I did a search using this reference. > Found a number of people around-the-world were have the same problem. > Several corrected the problem by adding another server file but not > activating it. Can figure how this would help is if it were not an active > file. One people simply removed the program from the control - add/remove > section and reinstalled the Windows Defender. So I figured that would be > an > easy fix. Then I noted that the last time Windows Defender was used on > my > PC was July 9, this year. So I decided to not reinstall the file. Have I > done a no - no? I also got to thinking I am using other programs to do > the > same things this defender does. Could these programs be fighting? It > would > explain all the delays and hang-ups I have had over the past few months. > > John in California > > -------------------------------------- > Having trouble with your subscription? Contact the List Admin at > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.26/600 - Release Date: > 23/12/2006 > >

That's good advice as I have made use of the windows Installer CleanUp Utility on a couple of occasions and it is very effective. It can be downloaded from the link on this page: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/290301 > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > Sent: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 16:12:26 +1000 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [GEN-COMP-TIPS] GEN-COMP-TIPS Digest, Vol 2, Issue 1 > > Hi John .I had the same problem and went to the www.microsoft.com .and > downloaded windows Installer CleanUp Utility package, now that was after > I > removed the old program then I downloaded the new Defender Program , Hope > this Helps Regards Roy > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Contratto" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 8:13 AM > Subject: Re: [GEN-COMP-TIPS] GEN-COMP-TIPS Digest, Vol 2, Issue 1 > > > >I would first like to thank n.east, Brenda, and Blaisdell for their > >replies. >> >> I found after I posted my message to the list that there was a second >> window >> message that referred to 0x800106ba. I did a search using this >> reference. >> Found a number of people around-the-world were have the same problem. >> Several corrected the problem by adding another server file but not >> activating it. Can figure how this would help is if it were not an >> active >> file. One people simply removed the program from the control - >> add/remove >> section and reinstalled the Windows Defender. So I figured that would >> be >> an >> easy fix. Then I noted that the last time Windows Defender was used on >> my >> PC was July 9, this year. So I decided to not reinstall the file. Have >> I >> done a no - no? I also got to thinking I am using other programs to do >> the >> same things this defender does. Could these programs be fighting? It >> would >> explain all the delays and hang-ups I have had over the past few months. >> >> John in California >> >> -------------------------------------- >> Having trouble with your subscription? Contact the List Admin at >> [email protected] >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -- >> Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.26/600 - Release Date: >> 23/12/2006 >> >> > > -------------------------------------- > Having trouble with your subscription? Contact the List Admin at > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I would first like to thank n.east, Brenda, and Blaisdell for their replies. I found after I posted my message to the list that there was a second window message that referred to 0x800106ba. I did a search using this reference. Found a number of people around-the-world were have the same problem. Several corrected the problem by adding another server file but not activating it. Can figure how this would help is if it were not an active file. One people simply removed the program from the control - add/remove section and reinstalled the Windows Defender. So I figured that would be an easy fix. Then I noted that the last time Windows Defender was used on my PC was July 9, this year. So I decided to not reinstall the file. Have I done a no - no? I also got to thinking I am using other programs to do the same things this defender does. Could these programs be fighting? It would explain all the delays and hang-ups I have had over the past few months. John in California

Hi I had the same problem, I went to control panel then add/remove programmes, & deleted windows defender, next I went to Google typed in windows defender found the free download & installed. It is ok now. Regards Frank ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Contratto" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 6:48 PM Subject: [GEN-COMP-TIPS] Windows Defender Service >I know nothing about Windows Defender Service. It appears I have it on my >PC. The following window popped up on my PC and reads: > > "Application failed to initialize a problem caused Windows Defender > Service to stop. To start the service restart or search help and support > on how to start a service manually." > > I tried restart which did not work, then I tried shut down, this did not > correct the problem. This problem came up while using outlook express. > Have noted small problems every since I upgraded to outlook 7. Can not > find any reference to Windows Defender Service on help. > > Can so one help me out? > > John > > -------------------------------------- > Having trouble with your subscription? Contact the List Admin at > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.0/610 - Release Date: 30/12/2006 > 14:59 > >

I cannot help with the problem but it is happening to me too. I close down my computer at night and on rebooting the same message pops up. It started yesterday (Sunday,Sydney AUS time) I do know that I have Windows Defender and it has been running normally until now. Brenda > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> Sent: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 10:48:23 -0800 >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: [GEN-COMP-TIPS] Windows Defender Service >> >> I know nothing about Windows Defender Service. It appears I have it on >> my PC. The following window popped up on my PC and reads: >> >> "Application failed to initialize a problem caused Windows Defender >> Service to stop. To start the service restart or search help and support >> on how to start a service manually." >> >> I tried restart which did not work, then I tried shut down, this did not >> correct the problem. This problem came up while using outlook express. >> Have noted small problems every since I upgraded to outlook 7. Can not >> find any reference to Windows Defender Service on help. >> >> Can so one help me out? >> >> John >> >> -------------------------------------- >> Having trouble with your subscription? Contact the List Admin at >> [email protected] >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > -------------------------------------- > Having trouble with your subscription? Contact the List Admin at [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Here are some sites to help you with System Restore: http://www.theeldergeek.com/system_restore.htm http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_restore.htm http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org/restoring_your_system_with_syste.htm And for Hibernate: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,2554,00.asp http://www.lockergnome.com/nexus/windows/2005/12/09/standby-or-hibernate-xp/ > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > Sent: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 19:37:36 -0500 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [GEN-COMP-TIPS] HIBERNATE IN WINDOWS XP > > I am new to XP (finally converting from Windows 2000 Professional). I > have > not seen this question. Is there an option that I should have selected, > that I haven't. Are there any good "helps" for those of us new to XP? > > I want to be able to do the "restore" or "recovery" when something has > happened, but I don't know if I have to do something special - or if it's > automatic. > > Phil > > > On 12/29/06, Fred Frederick <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> On 11/28/06, n.east <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Mr. n.east: >> When I turn off my computer for the night the *question is asked about >> when >> to turn off the hard drives. Choices range from never to a number of >> hours. >> *How should that question be answered to preserve the life of the >> computer? >> I turn off my computer between ten and eleven p.m. and when home, I turn >> it >> on again about eight a.m. I turn it off when a severe lightning storm >> arises. Otherwise, I leave it on standby when not in use. >> >> Your help appreciated. >> >> Fred, Sr. >> -------------------------------------- >> Having trouble with your subscription? Contact the List Admin at >> [email protected] >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > -------------------------------------- > Having trouble with your subscription? Contact the List Admin at > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am new to XP (finally converting from Windows 2000 Professional). I have not seen this question. Is there an option that I should have selected, that I haven't. Are there any good "helps" for those of us new to XP? I want to be able to do the "restore" or "recovery" when something has happened, but I don't know if I have to do something special - or if it's automatic. Phil On 12/29/06, Fred Frederick <[email protected]> wrote: > > On 11/28/06, n.east <[email protected]> wrote: > > Mr. n.east: > When I turn off my computer for the night the *question is asked about > when > to turn off the hard drives. Choices range from never to a number of > hours. > *How should that question be answered to preserve the life of the > computer? > I turn off my computer between ten and eleven p.m. and when home, I turn > it > on again about eight a.m. I turn it off when a severe lightning storm > arises. Otherwise, I leave it on standby when not in use. > > Your help appreciated. > > Fred, Sr. > -------------------------------------- > Having trouble with your subscription? Contact the List Admin at > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Perhaps it is a new update from Microsoft gone bad. I have experienced it today too. On 12/31/06, brenda <[email protected]> wrote: > > I cannot help with the problem but it is happening to me too. > I close down my computer at night and on rebooting the same message pops > up. It started yesterday (Sunday,Sydney AUS time) > I do know that I have Windows Defender and it has been running normally > until now. > > > Brenda > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: [email protected] > >> Sent: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 10:48:23 -0800 > >> To: [email protected] > >> Subject: [GEN-COMP-TIPS] Windows Defender Service > >> > >> I know nothing about Windows Defender Service. It appears I have it on > >> my PC. The following window popped up on my PC and reads: > >> > >> "Application failed to initialize a problem caused Windows Defender > >> Service to stop. To start the service restart or search help and > support > >> on how to start a service manually." > >> > >> I tried restart which did not work, then I tried shut down, this did > not > >> correct the problem. This problem came up while using outlook express. > >> Have noted small problems every since I upgraded to outlook 7. Can not > >> find any reference to Windows Defender Service on help. > >> > >> Can so one help me out? > >> > >> John > >> > >> -------------------------------------- > >> Having trouble with your subscription? Contact the List Admin at > >> [email protected] > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > > -------------------------------------- > > Having trouble with your subscription? Contact the List Admin at > [email protected] > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -------------------------------------- > Having trouble with your subscription? Contact the List Admin at > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Here are some sites which may help: http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/help/e0cbb93e-53f3-4776-8e3b-05791245987f1033.mspx http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;927367 http://windowsonecare.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!C29701F38A601141!1812.entry http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/security.htm > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > Sent: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 10:48:23 -0800 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [GEN-COMP-TIPS] Windows Defender Service > > I know nothing about Windows Defender Service. It appears I have it on > my PC. The following window popped up on my PC and reads: > > "Application failed to initialize a problem caused Windows Defender > Service to stop. To start the service restart or search help and support > on how to start a service manually." > > I tried restart which did not work, then I tried shut down, this did not > correct the problem. This problem came up while using outlook express. > Have noted small problems every since I upgraded to outlook 7. Can not > find any reference to Windows Defender Service on help. > > Can so one help me out? > > John > > -------------------------------------- > Having trouble with your subscription? Contact the List Admin at > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I know nothing about Windows Defender Service. It appears I have it on my PC. The following window popped up on my PC and reads: "Application failed to initialize a problem caused Windows Defender Service to stop. To start the service restart or search help and support on how to start a service manually." I tried restart which did not work, then I tried shut down, this did not correct the problem. This problem came up while using outlook express. Have noted small problems every since I upgraded to outlook 7. Can not find any reference to Windows Defender Service on help. Can so one help me out? John

Thanks Dora & Peggy!!! I did as you said & went to bellsouth.net.. got it all straight!!! Thank you.. thank you... Jane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dora Smith" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 7:44 PM Subject: Re: [GEN-COMP-TIPS] server has unexpectedly terminated > This happens to me when the connection to my ISP - Roadrunner - cuts out. > If the server is unstable that can happen so often you'll download your > mail > 20 times before you get it all once. > > If it's connecting at all then the problem is probably not at your end. > > See if your ISP offers webmail; if it does, you can go in through your > browser and trim your> > Yours, > Dora Smith > Austin, TX > [email protected] > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jane Gillespie" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 5:48 PM > Subject: [GEN-COMP-TIPS] server has unexpectedly terminated > > >>I keep trying to download my email messages. When it gets to message # 6 >>it >> throws up this message: >> >> Your server has unexpectedly terminated the connection. Possible causes >> for >> this include server problems, network problems, or a long period of >> inactivity. Account: 'mail.bellsouth.net', Server: 'mail.bellsouth.net', >> Protocol: POP3, Server Response: '+OK 25364 octets', Port: 110, >> Secure(SSL): >> No, Error Number: 0x800CCC0F >> >> Anyone have any ideas what might be wrong??? >> >> Jane McCombs Gillespie >> [email protected] >> >> McComb/McCombs SC AL MS FL >> Gillespie/Glaspy SC AL TX >> Hopewell Presbyterian CH McCormick Co SC >> >> -------------------------------------- >> Having trouble with your subscription? Contact the List Admin at >> [email protected] >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.431 / Virus Database: 268.15.29/608 - Release Date: > 12/29/2006 8:22 AM > > -------------------------------------- > Having trouble with your subscription? Contact the List Admin at > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

I keep trying to download my email messages. When it gets to message # 6 it throws up this message: Your server has unexpectedly terminated the connection. Possible causes for this include server problems, network problems, or a long period of inactivity. Account: 'mail.bellsouth.net', Server: 'mail.bellsouth.net', Protocol: POP3, Server Response: '+OK 25364 octets', Port: 110, Secure(SSL): No, Error Number: 0x800CCC0F Anyone have any ideas what might be wrong??? Jane McCombs Gillespie [email protected] McComb/McCombs SC AL MS FL Gillespie/Glaspy SC AL TX Hopewell Presbyterian CH McCormick Co SC

This happens to me when the connection to my ISP - Roadrunner - cuts out. If the server is unstable that can happen so often you'll download your mail 20 times before you get it all once. If it's connecting at all then the problem is probably not at your end. See if your ISP offers webmail; if it does, you can go in through your browser and trim your mail. That may help. Yours, Dora Smith Austin, TX [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane Gillespie" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 5:48 PM Subject: [GEN-COMP-TIPS] server has unexpectedly terminated >I keep trying to download my email messages. When it gets to message # 6 it > throws up this message: > > Your server has unexpectedly terminated the connection. Possible causes > for > this include server problems, network problems, or a long period of > inactivity. Account: 'mail.bellsouth.net', Server: 'mail.bellsouth.net', > Protocol: POP3, Server Response: '+OK 25364 octets', Port: 110, > Secure(SSL): > No, Error Number: 0x800CCC0F > > Anyone have any ideas what might be wrong??? > > Jane McCombs Gillespie > [email protected] > > McComb/McCombs SC AL MS FL > Gillespie/Glaspy SC AL TX > Hopewell Presbyterian CH McCormick Co SC > > -------------------------------------- > Having trouble with your subscription? Contact the List Admin at > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.431 / Virus Database: 268.15.29/608 - Release Date: 12/29/2006 8:22 AM

Hello Jane Go to your mail online. www.bellsouth.net over to the top left is tour and under that is home, e-mail etc. click on e-mail and sign in. See if you have any extra large mails or strange e-mails. I have had it do this with no obvious reason. Just delete the mail from there and then it should work. Peggy >I keep trying to download my email messages. When it gets to message # 6 it > throws up this message:

On 12/30/06, bob gillis <[email protected]> wrote: Fred, if you are have your computer on all day and are not using it , your HD would run all day. bob gillis Okay, Mr. Gillis: I think I misunderstood previous post. So when I am not using the computer, but it is on standby during the daytime, I should have the hard drives set to turn off after twenty or so minutes of non-use? Thank you for your time. I waited until late in life to learn to use a computer, but am pleased to note that folks on this list have been patient and helpful. Fred, Sr. -------------------------------------- Having trouble with your subscription? Contact the List Admin at [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message