There are two ways of "backing up". The most common way is to use Windows Backup or one of the many shareware applications. They are fine for backing up important data files. If you have the setup CD's for all of your installed applications, you don't really need to backup applications - only the data they produce. A more certain way is to use an application which creates an "image" of your drives, particularly your OS. Yes, you can reinstall your OS if you have the setup CD's but in that event you lose all of the settings you have added over time to the OS. You do have a "fresh" OS, but it means re-installing all of your other applications so that they are registered with your OS. I use Acronis True Image as I have XP PRo, but unfortunately it does not work with 98. BackUpNow! is one application which will work with 98 and help you either backup or create images of drives or partitions on drives. I have previously used BackUpNow! and it is an excellent application. So if you do want to do a thorough job of backing up, use both images and backups: http://www.argentuma.com/backup/software/backup-now.html There is a slection of freeware appliactions here which may help: http://www.thefreecountry.com/utilities/backupandimage.shtml These sites have some help on understanding backups and images: http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0BRZ/is_8_23/ai_109665176 http://www.backupcritic.com/software-buyer/file-versus-image.html > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > Sent: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 11:43:10 -0800 (PST) > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [GEN-COMP-TIPS] New External Hard Drive - Need Help > > Hi, > > Guess I wasn't clear with my original questions. > > INRE new External Hard Drive > > I purchased it, primarily, to use as a back-up for my > data. However, > > Should I load my operating system (Windows 98 SE) onto > the new drive? > > Should I load application software, genealogy, Word, > Excel, etc. onto the new drive? > > Thanks > > > --- Gary <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Becky Pleiman wrote: >>> Early this evening, I purchased a new External >> Hard >>> Drive (Western Digital-My Book), 160GBs, installed >> the >>> drivers (I am a Windows 98 SE user) >> I don't know about Windows 98SE for sure, but you >> shouldn't have any >> problems. I have an external HDD as a backup & it >> works just the same as >> the internal HDD on XP Pro. >> >> -- >> Gary in Sunny Queensland, Australia. >> www.sunzine.net/rockhampton >> Genealogy Page >> > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~liddellfamily/ >> >> -------------------------------------- >> Having trouble with your subscription? Contact the >> List Admin at [email protected] >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email >> to [email protected] with the word >> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >> the body of the message >> > > -------------------------------------- > Having trouble with your subscription? Contact the List Admin at > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello All, As a result of installing the new external HD: - I've been cleaning up the main HD: - Filing docs into folders and subfolders - Deleting files that are not needed - Then copying or cuting and pasting onto the new external HD Please keep in mind that I am working with a Windows 98SE operating system. I've just noticed that *most* data files, on the main HD, have new icons and the file attributes have changed. For a couple of examples: - The usual JPEG icon now looks like a .txt file icon (lined notebook page, spiral rings at the top) with an ink pen. The file extension is still JPG, but most files have are read only, when I look at the properties. - The usual Word.doc icon now appears as a light blue square with a ? mark in the lower right corner. These files have also been changed to read only, when I look at the properties. - I have more examples, if needed. Does anyone have any clues as to *WHY*, the above, has happened? The only other things I have done, within the past few days, is (1) I attached the new external drive and (2) Over the past weekend, I defragged the main HD. Does anyone have any ideas as to what I should do next ... to *FIX* the icons and attributes? Thank you, Becky PS This computer holds several thousand documents and photos representing about 5 years of genealogy research.

Kraig, Thank you. Perfect answer with a reason that I can understand. So ... on to transferring thousands of files and figuring out what to delete from my overloaded main HD. Becky --- K Jones <[email protected]> wrote: > No. External drives are fine for storage, but the > USB interface is way too slow for applications or > operating systems. > > Kraig > > > Becky Pleiman <[email protected]> wrote: Hi, > > Guess I wasn't clear with my original questions. > > INRE new External Hard Drive > > I purchased it, primarily, to use as a back-up for > my > data. However, > > Should I load my operating system (Windows 98 SE) > onto > the new drive? > > Should I load application software, genealogy, Word, > Excel, etc. onto the new drive? > > Thanks > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > -------------------------------------- > Having trouble with your subscription? Contact the > List Admin at [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message >

No --- Becky Pleiman <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi, > > Guess I wasn't clear with my original questions. > > INRE new External Hard Drive > > I purchased it, primarily, to use as a back-up for my > data. However, > > Should I load my operating system (Windows 98 SE) onto > the new drive? > > Should I load application software, genealogy, Word, > Excel, etc. onto the new drive? > > Thanks > > > --- Gary <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Becky Pleiman wrote: > > > Early this evening, I purchased a new External > > Hard > > > Drive (Western Digital-My Book), 160GBs, installed > > the > > > drivers (I am a Windows 98 SE user) > > I don't know about Windows 98SE for sure, but you > > shouldn't have any > > problems. I have an external HDD as a backup & it > > works just the same as > > the internal HDD on XP Pro. > > > > -- > > Gary in Sunny Queensland, Australia. > > www.sunzine.net/rockhampton > > Genealogy Page > > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~liddellfamily/ > > > > -------------------------------------- > > Having trouble with your subscription? Contact the > > List Admin at [email protected] > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > > to [email protected] with the word > > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > > the body of the message > > > > -------------------------------------- > Having trouble with your subscription? Contact the List Admin at > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Are you asking whether you should load the applications and operating system on the external drive? If so, the answer is probably "no" for speed and many other reasons. If you are asking about making a backup copy of the OS and applications on the external drive, the answer is also probably "no". Most applications and OS's cannot be just copied or restored from a backup device unless you are using special backup software that makes a disk copy. The reason is that the installation process sets many pointers and registration entries that are difficult to restore. The best backup for applications and OS's is to keep your original install CDs. Now, if you downloaded an install file, you can and should keep it on your backup. You should also backup any databases, and other files you have created. Hope this helps! Frank -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Becky Pleiman Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 1:43 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [GEN-COMP-TIPS] New External Hard Drive - Need Help Hi, Guess I wasn't clear with my original questions. INRE new External Hard Drive I purchased it, primarily, to use as a back-up for my data. However, Should I load my operating system (Windows 98 SE) onto the new drive? Should I load application software, genealogy, Word, Excel, etc. onto the new drive? Thanks

No. External drives are fine for storage, but the USB interface is way too slow for applications or operating systems. Kraig Becky Pleiman <[email protected]> wrote: Hi, Guess I wasn't clear with my original questions. INRE new External Hard Drive I purchased it, primarily, to use as a back-up for my data. However, Should I load my operating system (Windows 98 SE) onto the new drive? Should I load application software, genealogy, Word, Excel, etc. onto the new drive? Thanks __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Hi, Guess I wasn't clear with my original questions. INRE new External Hard Drive I purchased it, primarily, to use as a back-up for my data. However, Should I load my operating system (Windows 98 SE) onto the new drive? Should I load application software, genealogy, Word, Excel, etc. onto the new drive? Thanks --- Gary <[email protected]> wrote: > Becky Pleiman wrote: > > Early this evening, I purchased a new External > Hard > > Drive (Western Digital-My Book), 160GBs, installed > the > > drivers (I am a Windows 98 SE user) > I don't know about Windows 98SE for sure, but you > shouldn't have any > problems. I have an external HDD as a backup & it > works just the same as > the internal HDD on XP Pro. > > -- > Gary in Sunny Queensland, Australia. > www.sunzine.net/rockhampton > Genealogy Page > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~liddellfamily/ > > -------------------------------------- > Having trouble with your subscription? Contact the > List Admin at [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message >

A while back (6 months to a year) my HP 5P LaserJet needed a new toner cartricge. The price at OfficeMax was about $85 for a new one and $55 for a refurbished one. For some unknown reason I found an ad for PrintPal and their price was $37.50. But there was a coupon type deal that reduced the price to $28.50 and that included shipping. I ordered from them and received it in a few days. During those few (2? 3? 4?) of waiting I received 4 emails from them tracking the progress of my order. The cartridge is working just great (but I've only used it for less than a year) and their customer service was outstanding. I have a card from them that is supposed to save 10% on my (or your) next order if you go to the following website: www.printpl.com/card10 Remember that YMMV. Don On Mon, 8 Jan 2007 19:52:20 EST [email protected] writes: > Would like suggestions of sites where I can buy printer inks & toners, and > office supplies. Rather than pick a site at random, I'd rather have a > recommendation from someone who has used a site and know it is reliable. > > David, on this list, told me of one several weeks ago, but that email > vanished. > > Thanks, all. > > annie

Would like suggestions of sites where I can buy printer inks & toners, and office supplies. Rather than pick a site at random, I'd rather have a recommendation from someone who has used a site and know it is reliable. David, on this list, told me of one several weeks ago, but that email vanished. Thanks, all. annie

Dora, You always seem to be slagging FTM, I don't want to sound too stupid here, but can you tell me what is so bad about it? Offline if you would prefer. Regards Jeanette -----Original Message----- From: Dora Smith [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, 8 January 2007 2:26 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [GEN-COMP-TIPS] unable to open gedcom Yup, they moved back a century. :) Yours, Dora Smith Austin, TX [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "n.east" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 10:03 PM Subject: Re: [GEN-COMP-TIPS] unable to open gedcom > Older versions of Family Tree Maker were a real pain with GEDCOM files I > always found. Thankfully, things have changed with FTM and they moved into > the new century as a user-friendly application. -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.431 / Virus Database: 268.15.29/608 - Release Date: 12/29/2006 8:22 AM

You could try importing the gedcom into Excel either directly if you are lucky or via your word processor. Check and correct the excel version before loading into Legacy. Alternatively see if you can both talk to each other via RTF (rich text format) or CSV (comma separated variable) files You may still need to import via excel. Tigger

Becky Pleiman wrote: > Early this evening, I purchased a new External Hard > Drive (Western Digital-My Book), 160GBs, installed the > drivers (I am a Windows 98 SE user) I don't know about Windows 98SE for sure, but you shouldn't have any problems. I have an external HDD as a backup & it works just the same as the internal HDD on XP Pro. -- Gary in Sunny Queensland, Australia. www.sunzine.net/rockhampton Genealogy Page http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~liddellfamily/

http://www.mudcreeksoftware.com GENViewer is a wonderful program for opening GedComs from various genealogy programs. I have used it for years. There is a free version on this site; the full program has a lot of other features. Jan -------------- Original message -------------- From: "John from West Aus" <[email protected]> > Hi Grannie Pauline--You say that you have Legacy Family Tree.Legacy should > handle your Gedcom. What I do is in legacy start a NEW family file with a > name of it's own , This will be an empty family file, now go to File --- > then Import From --- GEDcom file & follow the prompts & Hey Presto , you > should now have a new family file Which you can copy into your main family > file --Good luck --John from West Aus > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pauline Harper" > To: > Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 6:02 AM > Subject: [GEN-COMP-TIPS] unable to open gedcom > > > >I just received a ged com from a gentleman who has matched my cousins > > DNA, and I cannot open it. I believe it was sent from the family tree > > maker program, because when I try to open it, the Family Tree maker > > archive viewer on my computer comes up, but is blank. I use Legacy as > > my genealogy program , and I am stumped !!! I hate to reply to this guy > > with my problem……Thanks for any help!!!! Granny Pauline > > > > -- > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.7/618 - Release Date: 1/6/2007 > > 7:47 PM > > > > -------------------------------------- > > Having trouble with your subscription? Contact the List Admin at > > [email protected] > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -------------------------------------- > Having trouble with your subscription? Contact the List Admin at > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks to everyone who answered my plea. I followed the directions given me, and wallla…..The ged Com of my cousin is in my Legacy program. The Family Tree Archive Viewer is something from days gone bye, when census and other info was available on CD, and for some reason it always opens up when I try to transfer info. I also installed Genviewer lite, so I should be covered in all situations. So….then I converted some other gedcoms, just waiting for me to get smart enough to do it…..smile….THANK YOU…. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.7/619 - Release Date: 1/7/2007 6:29 PM

Hi Grannie Pauline--You say that you have Legacy Family Tree.Legacy should handle your Gedcom. What I do is in legacy start a NEW family file with a name of it's own , This will be an empty family file, now go to File --- then Import From --- GEDcom file & follow the prompts & Hey Presto , you should now have a new family file Which you can copy into your main family file --Good luck --John from West Aus ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pauline Harper" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 6:02 AM Subject: [GEN-COMP-TIPS] unable to open gedcom >I just received a ged com from a gentleman who has matched my cousins > DNA, and I cannot open it. I believe it was sent from the family tree > maker program, because when I try to open it, the Family Tree maker > archive viewer on my computer comes up, but is blank. I use Legacy as > my genealogy program , and I am stumped !!! I hate to reply to this guy > with my problem……Thanks for any help!!!! Granny Pauline > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.7/618 - Release Date: 1/6/2007 > 7:47 PM > > -------------------------------------- > Having trouble with your subscription? Contact the List Admin at > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Pauline - it is quite possible the file you received is labeled as a GEDCOM but is actually a FTW (Family Tree Maker) file. This often occurs if file extensions are hidden. The file you have may actually be filename.GED.FTW If you are still having problems, e-mail it to me off the list and I will try to convert it for you. Frank -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Pauline Harper Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 3:02 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [GEN-COMP-TIPS] unable to open gedcom I just received a ged com from a gentleman who has matched my cousins DNA, and I cannot open it. I believe it was sent from the family tree maker program, because when I try to open it, the Family Tree maker archive viewer on my computer comes up, but is blank. I use Legacy as my genealogy program , and I am stumped !!! I hate to reply to this guy with my problem..Thanks for any help!!!! Granny Pauline

Pauline Harper wrote: > I just received a ged com from a gentleman who has matched my cousins > DNA, and I cannot open it. I believe it was sent from the family tree > maker program, because when I try to open it, the Family Tree maker > archive viewer on my computer comes up, but is blank. I use Legacy as > my genealogy program , and I am stumped !!! All GEDCOM files can be oped in a text document but they are a real pain to read but is one way to see if it is the file or the software. Another problem could be that your version of GEDCOM & his are not compatible as one of you has a much older version than the other. -- Gary in Sunny Queensland, Australia. www.sunzine.net/rockhampton Genealogy Page http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~liddellfamily/

I'm sure FTM will come up again, Jeannette. Basically, I wouldn't recommend my birds buy it - but then you already knew that. :) Yours, Dora Smith Austin, TX [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeanette Iredale" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 2:38 AM Subject: Re: [GEN-COMP-TIPS] unable to open gedcom > Dora, > > You always seem to be slagging FTM, I don't want to sound too stupid here, > but can you tell me what is so bad about it? Offline if you would prefer. > > Regards > > Jeanette > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dora Smith [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Monday, 8 January 2007 2:26 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [GEN-COMP-TIPS] unable to open gedcom > > Yup, they moved back a century. :) > > Yours, > Dora Smith > Austin, TX > [email protected] > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "n.east" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 10:03 PM > Subject: Re: [GEN-COMP-TIPS] unable to open gedcom > > >> Older versions of Family Tree Maker were a real pain with GEDCOM files I >> always found. Thankfully, things have changed with FTM and they moved >> into > >> the new century as a user-friendly application. > > > > -- > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.431 / Virus Database: 268.15.29/608 - Release Date: > 12/29/2006 > 8:22 AM > > > > > > -------------------------------------- > Having trouble with your subscription? Contact the List Admin at > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.431 / Virus Database: 268.15.29/608 - Release Date: 12/29/2006 8:22 AM

Yup, they moved back a century. :) Yours, Dora Smith Austin, TX [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "n.east" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 10:03 PM Subject: Re: [GEN-COMP-TIPS] unable to open gedcom > Older versions of Family Tree Maker were a real pain with GEDCOM files I > always found. Thankfully, things have changed with FTM and they moved into > the new century as a user-friendly application. -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.431 / Virus Database: 268.15.29/608 - Release Date: 12/29/2006 8:22 AM

There should be no problem, as far as I know. From what you say everything is working fine. Those external hard drives are virtually plug and play, atleast with Windows XP and USB ports. Are you having a problem? Yours, Dora Smith Austin, TX [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Becky Pleiman" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 10:01 PM Subject: [GEN-COMP-TIPS] New External Hard Drive - Need Help > Early this evening, I purchased a new External Hard > Drive (Western Digital-My Book), 160GBs, installed the > drivers (I am a Windows 98 SE user) ... then connected > the HD to the computer ... then saved a huge folder, > most of my copies of census records (jpeg files), onto > the new HD. I can read them using, for example, Adobe > PhotoShop. > > As far as I can tell, everything is working perfectly. > > The HD came with no back-up instructions, no software. > No instructions or recommendations for installing > system files. > > What should I un-do, re-do ... to this new external > hard drive? > > Thank you, > > Becky > > > -------------------------------------- > Having trouble with your subscription? Contact the List Admin at > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.431 / Virus Database: 268.15.29/608 - Release Date: 12/29/2006 8:22 AM